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Old 06-12-2008, 08:17 AM  
Tom_PM
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When it is actually a good car instead of this shitty 30mpg or 40mpg crap they tout as amazing, which it's not. 70mpg, 100mpg.. then you're talkin.

Better off replacing your lightbulbs, buying a new refrigerator, dishwasher, clothes washer/dryer. Those have made *actual* advances in just the last 5 years or so.
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