how the fuck they can use such excuse... she was only 11!!! This is young child! not teen! child! and I'm sure she did't look like adult person There is no forgiveness for such thing!
Well I just looked up the age of consent in Israel and it's 14-16 so if you assume that the bulk of the soldiers were 18-19 and if she told them her age was 16 it might not be that far out of the norm.
I'm not condoning it, but I think it would depend on how old the girl looks and if she looked like she was about 16. I'd have a hard time believing any normal 35 soldiers would knowingly have sex with a 11 year old girl, so I'd assume they believed she was at the age of consent.
The other thing you have to look at, is how normal is it for 18-19 years old to have sex with girls that are 14-16 in that country? Is it a common thing being the age of consent is so low there?
Not that it's right, but not every country and religion in the world has the same thoughts on the matter. For example according to http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm Japan's age of consent is 13-18. In Italy it's 14. In Spain and South Korea it's 13.
Touche, assuming they were 18-19. As far as I'm concerned the bet's off if any were in their 20s and on a personal level I don't care if that's 'legal' somewhere else in the world. When I was 17 I was quite able to determine what was shitty and what wasn't; like when the creepy old guy (who was 21) cruised in front of my high school at noon hour.
have to remember its only statuatory rape
this is where consent was given by someone who was incapable of giving consent ... if she lied about her age and they thought it to be true then this is as much her fault as theirs, specially as she was doing it for money... her parent will have known about it and probably took the money off her.
I went to GReenland and parent their were trying to pimp their kids .. its a sick sick situation all round what some people will do for money specially remembering that these kids have to grow to be adults and then try and hold down a family of their own
the average 11 year old doesn't understand what saying yes means..a bit odd for an 11 year old . I would be looking at the parents to see what has been going on in her life.
There's a case of a girl I know who started muenstrating at age 3 and was fully grown at age 7; by the time she was 11 she was in 10th grade (brain development was extremely rapid as well)* and dating a soldier. He was dishonorably discharged for statutory rape even though it was consensual, she had led him to believe she was older and physically she was 18 (although emotionally she was probably about 15.
*The condition is called isosexual precocious puberty
I did a web search for this and it sounds pretty far out, particularly some of the other types:
"Heterosexual precocious puberty causes signs of masculine characteristics in girls and feminization in boys."
It also seems that while people with this develop and grow faster as children their growth tends to stop prematurely which means that as adults they are shorter.
So it's basically just an advanced puberty rather than acceleration of ageing?
Isn't the age of consent in Israel 16? And she is the one that lied about her age. If anything her parents should be held responsible, and so should she. Regardless of the actions of the soldiers, although none of us really know what happened.
Sh*t like that has been going on in the military for decades. Most of the time it goes un-reported because it is during a time of conflict. It is not just Israel, I can guarantee that there where child rapes in Iraq. Think you will ever hear about them? A whole bunch of men with guns creates a power thing on the male hormones. Hopefully this will spark people into changing things, but I don?t think it will. May they all learn a hard lesson?.
Sh*t like that has been going on in the military for decades. Most of the time it goes un-reported because it is during a time of conflict. It is not just Israel, I can guarantee that there where child rapes in Iraq. Think you will ever hear about them? A whole bunch of men with guns creates a power thing on the male hormones. Hopefully this will spark people into changing things, but I don?t think it will. May they all learn a hard lesson?.
I suspect that's the case. I should have been clearer with my comment by saying that I was wondering what the perv soldiers were thinking her age was because there's absolutely no way that an 11yo will look 18. The sickos probably thought they were pretty lucky to score a 15yo...
You're wrong about that.
I'm not saying what the soldiers did was right... it was quite wrong in fact. I'm just disagreeing with you on the highlighted yellow comment. As I said in my first post here, one of my nieces in fact did look over 18 when she was 11-going-on-12. She used to run away from my sister's home and go sell herself downtown back then, I can only imagine how many guys had a piece of her.
She was tall for her age, somewhat developed, and with hair done a certain way and makeup on etc... well, what can I say? Many in the family noticed she looked a lot older than her age, and once it was discovered what she'd been doing it broke my sister's and my mom's heart.
Don't say "no way in hell", because although rare, it can happen.
I don't care how "old" an 11 year old looks, there is something fishy about not knowing. I can't imagine an 11 year old being at an 18 year old level intellectually, something wouldn't click. Have you guys seen 11 year olds today? There is no way they are passing for adults. We're talking about girls in 5th and 6th grade.
No matter what she looked like though, there is no excuse. You can't blame the girl for this, she is 11 fucking years old. Think of what you were like at 11 years old. It's amazing that some people will look at a child for fault before some fucking young males.
israel soldiers are usually 18-19y.old and many of them look younger too.
U bring up a good point that the soilders are young too...but rape is rape...and 35 dudes (I dont care what age they are) having (What is most likely forced) sex with a girl is inexcuseable.
I can tolerate all kinds of shit in the world but doing any harm to a little kid is not acceptable to me under any circumstance.
this is weird:
Sexual intercourse with a consenting minor under 16 years is considered rape and the offender is liable to 20 years imprisonment.
Act of sodomy with a consenting minor under 14 is considered rape and the offender is liable to 20 years imprisonment.
***- so after 14 ya can butt fuck 'em?
Well when you think about it....
For the majority of us, when we turned 14 the butt-fuck of life began and never ended.
However,
Fucking an 11 year old is pretty bad. But I must admit to find out what this 11 year old girl looks like. I once met a 15 year old girl and she looked 35.
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