Larry Flynt against .XXX! (letter from Hustler in here)

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  • FightThisPatent
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    • Aug 2003
    • 4090

    #1

    Larry Flynt against .XXX! (letter from Hustler in here)

    posted on ICANN by Tom Hymes:
    http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00412.html

    (The following letter is posted with the permission of Larry Flynt. The
    link is to a .jpg of the letter. - Tom Hymes)


    http://www.freespeechonline.org/webd...rXXXLetter.jpg


    April 2006

    Dear ICANN Representatives,

    Speaking on behalf of my company, Flynt Management Group, LLC I would
    like to state my opposition to the creation of a dot xxx top level
    domain (TLD), which I believe represents a direct threat to freedom of
    speech on the Internet. Legislation was recently introduced in the U.S.
    senate that will create a mandatory .xxx TLD, and in Australia a law has
    been proposed that would institute ISP-level filtering of adult content.
    Even if these individual initiatives fail, they have convinced me that
    is it inevitable that government will continue to try to impose a
    regulatory scheme on dot xxx that is unnecessary and unconstitutional.

    Flynt Management Group, LLC has been a leader in the adult entertainment
    industry for 32 years. As a producer of high quality adult products made
    by adults for adults, my company has helped make this industry the
    legitimate business it is today. I am dedicated to supporting a
    responsible working environment that conforms to the laws of the land,
    and actively support efforts to make the Internet safe for children,
    paticularly through education, good business practices, and by
    advocating the use of filtering technologies, which have become
    increasingly effective and easy to use.

    But dot xxx is an inherently dangerous idea with no real purpose. Only
    if it becomes a tool of censorship will it achieve its goal of
    preventing access to adult content by minors, and if it falls short of
    that goal, what reason for it was there for it in the first place,
    especially if alternative methods and tools can achieve the same
    results. This industry is open to all solutions to making the Internet
    a safer and freer place, but dot xxx is not one of them.

    Because of these concerns and others, I respectfully request that ICANN
    reject the current ICM Registry application.

    Sincerely,

    Larry Flynt
    President

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  • polish_aristocrat
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #3
      but will ICANN even see it...?
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • MikeHawk
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 6683

        #4
        Way to go Larry Flynt................



        NO TO .XXX
        THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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        • FightThisPatent
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          • Aug 2003
          • 4090

          #5
          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
          but will ICANN even see it...?
          Yes, FSC is sending it right to Dr. Cerf/ICANN

          and knowing Hustler, probably with a copy of the hustler magazine


          Fight the product placement!

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          • Spunky
            I need a beer
            • Jun 2002
            • 133978

            #6
            Good ole Larry

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            • MikeHawk
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              • Jan 2004
              • 6683

              #7
              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
              but will ICANN even see it...?

              Right here with all the rest of our letters, our letters and email count.......so does Larry Flynt!

              http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00412.html

              THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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              • 2HousePlague
                CURATOR
                • Jul 2004
                • 14572

                #8
                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                but will ICANN even see it...?
                They have no choice. No more running & hiding for ICANN.




                2hp
                tada!

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                • FightThisPatent
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 4090

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MikeHawk
                  Right here with all the rest of our letters, our letters and email count.......so does Larry Flynt!

                  been a long time coming.. but finally here.. lots of people working behind the scenes to help make this happen....


                  Fight the do-gooders!

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                  • RyuLion
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 32374

                    #10
                    Woah! nice one, I hope it doesn't go through either..

                    Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995
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                    • BoyAlley
                      So Fucking Gay
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 19714

                      #11
                      Good for him. Has Hefner sent in his yet? Hrmmmmmmmm?

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                      • minusonebit
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 7391

                        #12
                        Larry is a good guy.

                        FightThisPatent, I thought you posted your last .xxx thread. Couldnt resist, could ya?

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                        • AkiraSS
                          Wemaxa.com
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2989

                          #13
                          Larry rulz

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                          • jayeff
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2001
                            • 2944

                            #14
                            Go Larry

                            Maybe we do have some industry leaders after all: a few "names" have stood up today. The rest... they should be ashamed of themselves.

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                            • FightThisPatent
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 4090

                              #15
                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                              Larry is a good guy.

                              FightThisPatent, I thought you posted your last .xxx thread. Couldnt resist, could ya?

                              dangnabit.. busted.. you're right

                              ok, so NOW this is my last thread i start about .XXX



                              Fight the famous last words!

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                              • Harley Girl
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                                • Jun 2004
                                • 864

                                #16
                                All i can say is "WOW" what a powerful letter !

                                So, if someone who has lead our industry for 32 years and primarily formed it to what it is today thinks that the DOT XXX is a bad idea - does that not tell all you people who are "pro dot xxx " that maybe it's time to rethink your decision?!
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                                • Tom_PM
                                  Porn Meister
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 16443

                                  #17
                                  Nice letter. I wrote pretty much the same things, but in my typically rambling style, lol.
                                  43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 40377

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Harley Girl
                                    All i can say is "WOW" what a powerful letter !

                                    So, if someone who has lead our industry for 32 years and primarily formed it to what it is today thinks that the DOT XXX is a bad idea - does that not tell all you people who are "pro dot xxx " that maybe it's time to rethink your decision?!
                                    well, do you see anyone pro-.xxx here?

                                    i dont
                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                    • CyberHustler
                                      Masterbaiter
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 28794

                                      #19
                                      lol ...hope this works
                                      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                      • Harley Girl
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                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 864

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                        well, do you see anyone pro-.xxx here?

                                        i dont
                                        i can honestly and very proudly say... in the last few days i have not really seen anyone who is "pro dot xxx" ....

                                        All it takes is our industry sticking together and standing ground and we can accomplish more then most people think!
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                                        • jayeff
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                                          • May 2001
                                          • 2944

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Harley Girl
                                          i can honestly and very proudly say... in the last few days i have not really seen anyone who is "pro dot xxx" ....

                                          All it takes is our industry sticking together and standing ground and we can accomplish more then most people think!
                                          Except we are not sticking together. How many webmasters with plenty of time to whore their sigs still haven't taken a couple of minutes to email ICANN? And don't forget ICM had plenty of help with their application, even if those willing to f*ck us all over are keeping a low profile now.

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                                          • FightThisPatent
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                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 4090

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jayeff
                                            ....And don't forget ICM had plenty of help with their application, even if those willing to f*ck us all over are keeping a low profile now.

                                            The companies below sent me an email from the first round of public comment periods to have their names be publically listed on http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com as taking a public stand against .XXX
                                            (a fax and printed copy was sent to ICANN for the last round in the comment period)

                                            lots of names you'll recognize, i see:



                                            Free Speech Coalition (trade association)

                                            Sex.com (search portal)

                                            Home Grown Video (paysites)

                                            YNOT (webmaster resource site)

                                            Adam & Eve (novelties and video)

                                            SmashBucks (paysites)

                                            LightSpeed (paysites)

                                            Sunny Dollars (paysites)

                                            Webmaster Paradise (content plugins)

                                            ATKINGDOM (paysites)

                                            Porn Profit (paysites)

                                            The SCORE Group (paysites)

                                            HotMovies.com (video on demand)

                                            Choker Traffic (traffic broker)

                                            Quentin Boyer (individual)

                                            MojoHost (ISP)

                                            Yanks Cash (paysites)

                                            Sex Pictures Pass (AVS)

                                            Pimps Promo (marketing)

                                            Team Click Cash (paysites)

                                            Amazing Content (content producer)

                                            Payserve (paysites)

                                            AskJolene (search engine)

                                            Nysus (internet entrepreneur)

                                            Twistys (paysites)

                                            arikaames.com (paysite)

                                            kickass.com (paysites)

                                            Len Palmer (internet entrepreneur)

                                            Marc (formerly of Matrix Content)

                                            Harley Girl (webgoddess)

                                            Iron Griffin Media (free sites)

                                            AdultWebmasterLabor.com (webmaster resource)

                                            Lowkey Productions (video production)

                                            tiffinivids.com (Amateur Video)

                                            afsac.org (advocacy group)

                                            InGayPorn.com (blog)

                                            12clicks (internet bon vivant)

                                            ObjectCube (software for adult)

                                            Babagirl (adult webmistress)

                                            The Adult Broker (marketing consultant)

                                            PPPcard.net (payment solution)

                                            KarupsPC.com (paysite)

                                            MikeSouth.com (video producer/director)

                                            Aly (industry personality)

                                            SplitInfinity Networks, INC (webhost)

                                            OC3 Networks (webhost/ISP)

                                            Wasteland.com (paysite)

                                            Fredricks Media Group (Producers/ web sites)

                                            3Fall Productions (producers, paysites)

                                            bellavendetta.com (fetish website)

                                            Wolfy (webmaster)

                                            Internet Co. (paysites)

                                            DarkLady (journalist)

                                            Consumption Junction (free site)

                                            NichePay (paysites)

                                            JDL "juicy" Media Group (Consulting Firm)

                                            WorldWideContent.com (content provider)

                                            sponsorslist.com (webmaster resource site)

                                            Spunkycash (paysites)

                                            Serpent Studios S.A. (paysites)

                                            John Foulds "jayeff" (webmaster)

                                            ViceReview.com (paysite reviews)

                                            URLSX.com (webmaster resource)

                                            eAdultIndustry.com (webmaster resource)

                                            sponsorspecs.com (adult sponsor resource)

                                            interracial-living.com (paysites)

                                            AAA News (online retailer)

                                            BBS-LA (ISP)

                                            Mob Bucks (paysites)

                                            KB (marketeur/industry personality)

                                            BlueToon Media (paysites)

                                            WWW. COM INC (concerned tax payer)

                                            J. D. Obenberger and Associates (attorney)

                                            Eric M. Bernstein (attorney)

                                            Eric Frey (webmaster)

                                            AEBN (video on-demand)

                                            Silvercash (paysites)

                                            WebOverdrive.com (webmaster resource)

                                            SunUp Media Group, Inc. (paysites, content)

                                            SunDown Media Group, Inc. (paysites)

                                            Ademia Multimedia (plugins)

                                            National A-1 Internet (ISP)

                                            JQMedia aka Jays XXX Links (traffic master)

                                            OC Cash (paysites)

                                            MacDaddy Bucks (paysites)

                                            tony404 (photographer/editor)

                                            iAlien LLC (designer)


                                            (there were a few more individuals who mailed in their support, and i hadn't had the time to update it.. .but thanks to those as well).


                                            Fight the romper room!

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                                            • DavieVegas
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                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 6117

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              but will ICANN even see it...?
                                              doubt it...all these opposes are going to midget in wonka land
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                                              • Redrob
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                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 4791

                                                #24
                                                Take a moment and send a letter.....bump

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                                                • tony299
                                                  lurker
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021

                                                  #25
                                                  kudos to Larry

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                                                  • wdsguy
                                                    Ryde or Die
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 19568

                                                    #26
                                                    go Larry

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                                                    • baddog
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089

                                                      #27
                                                      thank you Mr Flynt

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                                                      • Spankys Teens
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2005
                                                        • 1414

                                                        #28
                                                        that was his lawyer, i doublt flynt himself

                                                        Good show anyways
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                                                        • KRL
                                                          Entrepreneur
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 31429

                                                          #29
                                                          Good one!
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                                                          • DirtyRider
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                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 832

                                                            #30
                                                            Very nice of him to take the time to do this.
                                                            Currently selling for me: Paper Street Cash (MomPerv, ShopLyfter, Swappz, Family Strokes)

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                                                            • PamiebDVD
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                              • 912

                                                              #31
                                                              I sent mine.
                                                              guttermonger.com
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                                                              • jesse_adultdatingdollars
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                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                • 2197

                                                                #32
                                                                Another lame tactic

                                                                Go Larry!
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                                                                • Bliz
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                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 316

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Redrob
                                                                  Take a moment and send a letter.....bump
                                                                  If Greg Dumas is actually on the board of directors at the FSC, please kick him in the nuts for sending this email to ICANN in May 2004. I'm sure Larry and others he named would appreciate him speaking on their behalf regarding such important issues.


                                                                  From the email archives:

                                                                  http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html



                                                                  Title: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

                                                                  I write this to communicate my support for the .xxx TLD proposal. I write as an experienced member of the online Adult Industry and have been since 1995.

                                                                  I currently own an Internet marketing company specializing in adult website marketing since 2001. Prior to that I was President of IGallery, as subsidiary of New Frontier media, a NASDAQ listed company from 1996 to 2001 and prior to that was VP of Marketing for Hustler launching its flagship site in 1995.

                                                                  I am also a director of the Free Speech Coalition since 2001.

                                                                  All these companies share one belief ... that child pornography is illegal, it is morally wrong and it should be stopped. This application demonstrates that belief and that the adult industry is prepared to both do something about child pornography and open up a dialogue with the broader Internet community.

                                                                  .xxx offers an opportunity for the online adult industry act responsibly.

                                                                  It provides a new forum and platform for the online adult industry to begin to self-organize and to develop their own credible and responsible business practices.

                                                                  I have personally met with many of the leaders in the online adult community from around the world ... from Python Communications in Curacao ... to Netcollex in the UK ... to Hustler, Vivid, AVN and many many more have all demonstrated their support for this application.

                                                                  In addition, there is great concern about the risks posed to the industry if .xxx was to ever become a generic TLD.

                                                                  No other application has stronger industry support or as broad and diverse a community of International supporters from all impacted stakeholders.

                                                                  Greg Dumas

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                                                                  • Bliz
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                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 316

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Oh... Larry and www.flyntdigital.com rock!

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                                                                    • Paraskass
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                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 5829

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Bliz
                                                                      If Greg Dumas is actually on the board of directors at the FSC, please kick him in the nuts for sending this email to ICANN in May 2004. I'm sure Larry and others he named would appreciate him speaking on their behalf regarding such important issues.


                                                                      From the email archives:

                                                                      http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html



                                                                      Title: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

                                                                      I write this to communicate my support for the .xxx TLD proposal. I write as an experienced member of the online Adult Industry and have been since 1995.

                                                                      I currently own an Internet marketing company specializing in adult website marketing since 2001. Prior to that I was President of IGallery, as subsidiary of New Frontier media, a NASDAQ listed company from 1996 to 2001 and prior to that was VP of Marketing for Hustler launching its flagship site in 1995.

                                                                      I am also a director of the Free Speech Coalition since 2001.

                                                                      All these companies share one belief ... that child pornography is illegal, it is morally wrong and it should be stopped. This application demonstrates that belief and that the adult industry is prepared to both do something about child pornography and open up a dialogue with the broader Internet community.

                                                                      .xxx offers an opportunity for the online adult industry act responsibly.

                                                                      It provides a new forum and platform for the online adult industry to begin to self-organize and to develop their own credible and responsible business practices.

                                                                      I have personally met with many of the leaders in the online adult community from around the world ... from Python Communications in Curacao ... to Netcollex in the UK ... to Hustler, Vivid, AVN and many many more have all demonstrated their support for this application.

                                                                      In addition, there is great concern about the risks posed to the industry if .xxx was to ever become a generic TLD.

                                                                      No other application has stronger industry support or as broad and diverse a community of International supporters from all impacted stakeholders.

                                                                      Greg Dumas
                                                                      Burn Greg, BURN

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                                                                      • davecummings
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 2922

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                        been a long time coming.. but finally here.. lots of people working behind the scenes to help make this happen....


                                                                        Fight the do-gooders!
                                                                        You certainly said that right---I was starting to pull out my three remaining pieces of hair trying to figure out a way to get this engine humming. Thanks to Larry Flynt, we have a BIG guy speaking out.

                                                                        Why aren't a LOT more of the Adult Internet BIG guys speaking out????????????

                                                                        Dave
                                                                        Dave Cummings
                                                                        www.davecummings.com
                                                                        www.davecummings.tv
                                                                        San Diego

                                                                        Email--- [email protected]

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                                                                        • reynold
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 51271

                                                                          #37
                                                                          He's the man! way to go Larry Flynt....go fight it.

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                                                                          • martinsc
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jun 2005
                                                                            • 27043

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Make Money

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                                                                            • davecummings
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                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 2922

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Bliz
                                                                              If Greg Dumas is actually on the board of directors at the FSC, please kick him in the nuts for sending this email to ICANN in May 2004. I'm sure Larry and others he named would appreciate him speaking on their behalf regarding such important issues.


                                                                              From the email archives:

                                                                              http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html



                                                                              Title: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

                                                                              I write this to communicate my support for the .xxx TLD proposal. I write as an experienced member of the online Adult Industry and have been since 1995.

                                                                              I currently own an Internet marketing company specializing in adult website marketing since 2001. Prior to that I was President of IGallery, as subsidiary of New Frontier media, a NASDAQ listed company from 1996 to 2001 and prior to that was VP of Marketing for Hustler launching its flagship site in 1995.

                                                                              I am also a director of the Free Speech Coalition since 2001.

                                                                              All these companies share one belief ... that child pornography is illegal, it is morally wrong and it should be stopped. This application demonstrates that belief and that the adult industry is prepared to both do something about child pornography and open up a dialogue with the broader Internet community.

                                                                              .xxx offers an opportunity for the online adult industry act responsibly.

                                                                              It provides a new forum and platform for the online adult industry to begin to self-organize and to develop their own credible and responsible business practices.

                                                                              I have personally met with many of the leaders in the online adult community from around the world ... from Python Communications in Curacao ... to Netcollex in the UK ... to Hustler, Vivid, AVN and many many more have all demonstrated their support for this application.

                                                                              In addition, there is great concern about the risks posed to the industry if .xxx was to ever become a generic TLD.

                                                                              No other application has stronger industry support or as broad and diverse a community of International supporters from all impacted stakeholders.

                                                                              Greg Dumas
                                                                              Will someone who knows his email PLEASE ask Greg to quickly email ICANN rescinding his letter?

                                                                              Please, Greg???

                                                                              Dave
                                                                              Dave Cummings
                                                                              www.davecummings.com
                                                                              www.davecummings.tv
                                                                              San Diego

                                                                              Email--- [email protected]

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                                                                              • 2HousePlague
                                                                                CURATOR
                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 14572

                                                                                #40
                                                                                When was that letter written --





                                                                                2hp
                                                                                tada!

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                                                                                • Connor
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 1294

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Greg Dumas hasn't been on the Board of the FSC for a long time... been quite a few years.

                                                                                  Thank you Larry Flynt, I'm VERY pleased you did the right thing here!


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                                                                                  • Bliz
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                                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                                    • 316

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    When was that letter written --

                                                                                    LOL

                                                                                    True. Although I find that email rather disturbing for many reasons. With many wondering why ICANN has the idea that the adult net fully supports .XXX, his letter gives some insight.

                                                                                    It seems Greg is/was not only on the board of directors for the FSC, but on the board at the IMC Registry as well. At the same time! Not trying to burn anyone at the stake here, but doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest to you?

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                                                                                    • davecummings
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                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 2922

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Bliz
                                                                                      When was that letter written --

                                                                                      LOL

                                                                                      True. Although I find that email rather disturbing for many reasons. With many wondering why ICANN has the idea that the adult net fully supports .XXX, his letter gives some insight.

                                                                                      It seems Greg is/was not only on the board of directors for the FSC, but on the board at the IMC Registry as well. At the same time! Not trying to burn anyone at the stake here, but doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest to you?

                                                                                      Gosh, maybe Brandon or someone should consider making you insight opinions known to ICANN? Can YOU also post an email about that to [email protected]?

                                                                                      Dave
                                                                                      Dave Cummings
                                                                                      www.davecummings.com
                                                                                      www.davecummings.tv
                                                                                      San Diego

                                                                                      Email--- [email protected]

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                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 30307

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I hope some of ya feel guilty about accusing the "Big Guys" in the back room making deals...

                                                                                        So I suppose Hustler is Vindicated as one of those that are not in the back room making deals.

                                                                                        All good news.

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                                                                                        • Jamie
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                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 2517

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                                          Yes, FSC is sending it right to Dr. Cerf/ICANN

                                                                                          and knowing Hustler, probably with a copy of the hustler magazine


                                                                                          Fight the product placement!

                                                                                          Can we get a few girls to hand deliver it?
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                                                                                          • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                                            • 40377

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                            • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                              Now with more Jayne
                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 40077

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              now if playboy.com sent something similar it would be hard to say with two household porn names against it that .xxx has the support of the industry

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                                                                                              • FightThisPatent
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 4090

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Bliz
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                                                                                                It seems Greg is/was not only on the board of directors for the FSC, but on the board at the IMC Registry as well. At the same time! Not trying to burn anyone at the stake here, but doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest to you?

                                                                                                I believe at the time that Greg Dumas wrote he was an FSC director, that he wasn't.

                                                                                                Date of his ICANN posting: 14 May 2004

                                                                                                Quote from the July 16, 2004 Free Speaker (http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/n...ter7-16-04.htm)

                                                                                                "FSC WEBSITE HAS A NEW LOOK!
                                                                                                It took longer that we expected and is still under construction, but our new FSC website is UP! Thanks so much to board member Sid Grief of AAANews.com, former board member Greg Dumas and the folks at AVN Online for the important part each played in updating our site. "

                                                                                                Greg has done alot for the biz and very supportive of the FSC, though it is understandable that his post on ICANN in support for .XXX and making it seem like the adult biz supports .XXX, casts a big shadow over him.




                                                                                                Where did you see that Dumas was on the board of directors at ICM?
                                                                                                http://www.icmregistry.com/for_aboutus.html

                                                                                                I've never heard that before.


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                                                                                                • Egomancer
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                                                  • 2074

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Well, I have a feeling that .xxx will be in anyway, whatever protests we make.

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                                                                                                  • Nikki_Licks
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                                                    • 6323

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                                                    The companies below sent me an email from the first round of public comment periods to have their names be publically listed on http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com as taking a public stand against .XXX
                                                                                                    (a fax and printed copy was sent to ICANN for the last round in the comment period)

                                                                                                    lots of names you'll recognize, i see:



                                                                                                    Free Speech Coalition (trade association)

                                                                                                    Sex.com (search portal)

                                                                                                    Home Grown Video (paysites)

                                                                                                    YNOT (webmaster resource site)

                                                                                                    Adam & Eve (novelties and video)

                                                                                                    SmashBucks (paysites)

                                                                                                    LightSpeed (paysites)

                                                                                                    Sunny Dollars (paysites)

                                                                                                    Webmaster Paradise (content plugins)

                                                                                                    ATKINGDOM (paysites)

                                                                                                    Porn Profit (paysites)

                                                                                                    The SCORE Group (paysites)

                                                                                                    HotMovies.com (video on demand)

                                                                                                    Choker Traffic (traffic broker)

                                                                                                    Quentin Boyer (individual)

                                                                                                    MojoHost (ISP)

                                                                                                    Yanks Cash (paysites)

                                                                                                    Sex Pictures Pass (AVS)

                                                                                                    Pimps Promo (marketing)

                                                                                                    Team Click Cash (paysites)

                                                                                                    Amazing Content (content producer)

                                                                                                    Payserve (paysites)

                                                                                                    AskJolene (search engine)

                                                                                                    Nysus (internet entrepreneur)

                                                                                                    Twistys (paysites)

                                                                                                    arikaames.com (paysite)

                                                                                                    kickass.com (paysites)

                                                                                                    Len Palmer (internet entrepreneur)

                                                                                                    Marc (formerly of Matrix Content)

                                                                                                    Harley Girl (webgoddess)

                                                                                                    Iron Griffin Media (free sites)

                                                                                                    AdultWebmasterLabor.com (webmaster resource)

                                                                                                    Lowkey Productions (video production)

                                                                                                    tiffinivids.com (Amateur Video)

                                                                                                    afsac.org (advocacy group)

                                                                                                    InGayPorn.com (blog)

                                                                                                    12clicks (internet bon vivant)

                                                                                                    ObjectCube (software for adult)

                                                                                                    Babagirl (adult webmistress)

                                                                                                    The Adult Broker (marketing consultant)

                                                                                                    PPPcard.net (payment solution)

                                                                                                    KarupsPC.com (paysite)

                                                                                                    MikeSouth.com (video producer/director)

                                                                                                    Aly (industry personality)

                                                                                                    SplitInfinity Networks, INC (webhost)

                                                                                                    OC3 Networks (webhost/ISP)

                                                                                                    Wasteland.com (paysite)

                                                                                                    Fredricks Media Group (Producers/ web sites)

                                                                                                    3Fall Productions (producers, paysites)

                                                                                                    bellavendetta.com (fetish website)

                                                                                                    Wolfy (webmaster)

                                                                                                    Internet Co. (paysites)

                                                                                                    DarkLady (journalist)

                                                                                                    Consumption Junction (free site)

                                                                                                    NichePay (paysites)

                                                                                                    JDL "juicy" Media Group (Consulting Firm)

                                                                                                    WorldWideContent.com (content provider)

                                                                                                    sponsorslist.com (webmaster resource site)

                                                                                                    Spunkycash (paysites)

                                                                                                    Serpent Studios S.A. (paysites)

                                                                                                    John Foulds "jayeff" (webmaster)

                                                                                                    ViceReview.com (paysite reviews)

                                                                                                    URLSX.com (webmaster resource)

                                                                                                    eAdultIndustry.com (webmaster resource)

                                                                                                    sponsorspecs.com (adult sponsor resource)

                                                                                                    interracial-living.com (paysites)

                                                                                                    AAA News (online retailer)

                                                                                                    BBS-LA (ISP)

                                                                                                    Mob Bucks (paysites)

                                                                                                    KB (marketeur/industry personality)

                                                                                                    BlueToon Media (paysites)

                                                                                                    WWW. COM INC (concerned tax payer)

                                                                                                    J. D. Obenberger and Associates (attorney)

                                                                                                    Eric M. Bernstein (attorney)

                                                                                                    Eric Frey (webmaster)

                                                                                                    AEBN (video on-demand)

                                                                                                    Silvercash (paysites)

                                                                                                    WebOverdrive.com (webmaster resource)

                                                                                                    SunUp Media Group, Inc. (paysites, content)

                                                                                                    SunDown Media Group, Inc. (paysites)

                                                                                                    Ademia Multimedia (plugins)

                                                                                                    National A-1 Internet (ISP)

                                                                                                    JQMedia aka Jays XXX Links (traffic master)

                                                                                                    OC Cash (paysites)

                                                                                                    MacDaddy Bucks (paysites)

                                                                                                    tony404 (photographer/editor)

                                                                                                    iAlien LLC (designer)


                                                                                                    (there were a few more individuals who mailed in their support, and i hadn't had the time to update it.. .but thanks to those as well).


                                                                                                    Fight the romper room!

                                                                                                    Brandon, you forgot me

                                                                                                    Please include Laughing Loon Productions, L.L.C. (Nikki_Licks)
                                                                                                    I know you have been busy...just want to be on the list of companies that oppose this .XXX.
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