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  • maxjohan
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7219
    #1

    This industry sucks...

    Getting through spam filters is not the only problem. The biggest problem
    is that mailing is not accepted in this industry.

    And I wonder why?

    I'm talking opt-ins here. If they ask for it, why not give it
    to them? And I'm not talking spamming, I run a seriously
    run newsletter with content.

    What's your opinion on this issue?

    Last edited by maxjohan; 05-07-2006, 08:33 AM.
    I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...
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    • SomeCreep
      :glugglug
      • Mar 2003
      • 26118
      #2
      Originally posted by maxjohan
      Getting through spam filters is not the only problem. The biggest problem
      is that mailing is not accepted in this industry.

      And I wonder why?

      I'm talking opt-ins here. If they ask for it, why not give it
      to them? And I'm not talking spamming, I run a seriously
      run newsletter with content.

      What's your opinion on this issue?

      Every spammer living on the third planet nearest to our sun claims their list is opt-in. That's the problem.

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        • Manowar
          jellyfish  
          • Dec 2003
          • 71528
          #3
          People don't like it because they get spam as webmasters. If every webmaster had never recieved a piece of spam, they wouldn't care.

          It's the not in my back yard, everyone is fine with it until it happens to them.

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            • psili
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 5526
              #4
              Originally posted by SomeCreep
              Every spammer living on the third planet nearest to our sun claims their list is opt-in. That's the problem.
              Exactly.

              Because I join a sponsor program, am I automatically registered for shitty stock market spam? = No.
              Because I joined a website and thoughtfully never checked the "send me shitty email" checkbox that wasn't there, am I automatically registered for shitty mortgage spam? = No.
              Because I entered my email address on some sketchy website, am I automatically registered to receive shitty spam that I didn't know about? = Probably.

              In my opinion, if you're constantly sending mass emails out, you're a fucking spammer. I don't give a shit how you justify it. You're lower than the fucking bacteria living under the dirt at the bottom of the deepest ocean trench.
              Your post count means nothing.

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                • pussyluver
                  Clueless OleMan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 11009
                  #5
                  Originally posted by psili
                  Exactly.

                  Because I join a sponsor program, am I automatically registered for shitty stock market spam? = No.
                  Because I joined a website and thoughtfully never checked the "send me shitty email" checkbox that wasn't there, am I automatically registered for shitty mortgage spam? = No.
                  Because I entered my email address on some sketchy website, am I automatically registered to receive shitty spam that I didn't know about? = Probably.

                  In my opinion, if you're constantly sending mass emails out, you're a fucking spammer. I don't give a shit how you justify it. You're lower than the fucking bacteria living under the dirt at the bottom of the deepest ocean trench.
                  And making money at it. You also run the risk of being labeled a spammer! Pepople are going to complain about you to sponsors, the government, their moms and so on. Next thing you know you're domain is on a spammers list. Your accounts are closed by the major sponsors.....

                  Fight the spam!

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                    • BannerDept
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 511
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Manowar
                      People don't like it because they get spam as webmasters. If every webmaster had never recieved a piece of spam, they wouldn't care.

                      It's the not in my back yard, everyone is fine with it until it happens to them.
                      what he said

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                        • BlackCrayon
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 19634
                          #7
                          the media has made spam such a buzz word people just can't wait to yell it out and accuse. people seem to call every email except personal correspondence spam.

                          you'll get complaints, be it opt in or not. until people realize getting commercial emails is just another part of life, sponsors will tend to shy away from it because it causes complaint and publicity problems. and there are a lot of people who will take advantage of a program that allows mailing and send harvested emails via proxies which can get the sponsor in a boatload of trouble. though, if not for the laws i think a lot more sponsors wouldn't care how you send mail. no one likes paying half a million in fines to the ftc.
                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                            • wonderman
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 282
                              #8
                              It is not easy to send spam today. Banned IP, and the problems. I could be sending 100k to guys who opt in to a dating site list.. but I don't send one email to them..

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                                • maxjohan
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 7219
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by wonderman
                                  It is not easy to send spam today. Banned IP, and the problems. I could be sending 100k to guys who opt in to a dating site list.. but I don't send one email to them..
                                  Want to sell the list?





                                  just kidding

                                  Seriosuly, there is some good comments in this thread.
                                  Last edited by maxjohan; 05-07-2006, 10:09 AM.
                                  I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                    • Egomancer
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 2074
                                      #10
                                      But spamming business is good...

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