Fleshlight WTF whats with the traffic leaks?

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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #51
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #52
      Originally posted by dial
      wait, so with the fleshlight lifetime cookie, does that mean that once my cookie is dropped, NO ONE else can make a sale on fleshlight from that user?

      so, if someone spends all day surfing for porn and clicks a fleshlight link from somewhere else, then they come to my site a month later and I sell the hell out of them for a fleshlight and they click my link because I sold them HARD....I won't get credit for the sale because some other 400k unique a day site happen to have them click first a month ago?

      that is jacked up dude

      some don't get it

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #53
        Originally posted by VIPimp
        They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

        exactly.

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        • Deej
          I make pixels work
          • Jun 2005
          • 24386

          #54
          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
          then why put an order number ? put a support number and tell them all orders must be placed over the internet...

          No offense but if your going to say " chances are slim " you should post actual phone orders %.

          What is the % of orders you do over the phone out of curiosity..
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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #55
            Originally posted by King Adam
            That would solve the whole problem. It can't be that hard to add into the system.
            That is what JoeBucks does . . . we get credit for telephone sales all the time.

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            • Ramos2
              Custom User Title
              • Dec 2004
              • 11927

              #56
              We are here working hard to get the RIGHT changes that need to be made.

              give me some time, Rome wasn't built in a day....

              shizer ;)
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              • slavdogg
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 3570

                #57
                Ramos, send me your ref code
                Adult Traffic for Sale

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                • Ramos2
                  Custom User Title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 11927

                  #58
                  Originally posted by slavdogg
                  Ramos, send me your ref code
                  No ref bro, shoot me an email
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                  • Pete-KT
                    Workin With The Devil
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 51532

                    #59
                    The lifetime cookie does NOT get overwritten I have been playing with the codes since lastnight when Ramos called me, Its a lifetime cookie that WILL NOT get overwritten with a new click

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                    • RawAlex
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9465

                      #60
                      So if you are promoting fleshlight, I would highly recommend zero framing it into your highest traffic sites so that you can score the most cookies. Don't worry about actually promoting it, just get the cookies set and let other people worry about making the sale.

                      The rule for cookies should be simple: New click means new cookie. Lifetime cookies reward the oldest affiliates and punish the newer ones.

                      Alex

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                      • FleshJoe2005
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 287

                        #61
                        Originally posted by VIPimp
                        They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.
                        Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

                        I'd be willing to go for that.
                        I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                        Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
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                        • FleshJoe2005
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 287

                          #62
                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                          So if you are promoting fleshlight, I would highly recommend zero framing it into your highest traffic sites so that you can score the most cookies. Don't worry about actually promoting it, just get the cookies set and let other people worry about making the sale.

                          The rule for cookies should be simple: New click means new cookie. Lifetime cookies reward the oldest affiliates and punish the newer ones.

                          Alex
                          Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course ) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

                          But yeah I can see your point.
                          Last edited by FleshJoe2005; 05-06-2006, 08:52 AM.
                          I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                          Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
                          ICQ: 325-310-821

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                          • Pete-KT
                            Workin With The Devil
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 51532

                            #63
                            Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                            Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course ) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

                            But yeah I can see your point.

                            Then maybe you should switch to 1 month cookies over lifetime, lifetims is shitty as everyone here has explaned, or atleast make them so they can get overwritten

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                            • Tempest
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2004
                              • 10217

                              #64
                              Cookie needs to be set for lifetime but overwritten by the next referer.

                              Phone numbers need the "promo code" thing and the operators need to ask for it.

                              But what about that ref code that got replaced with a new one?? Haven't seen any reply to that issue.

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                              • xLaborJames
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 564

                                #65
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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                                  Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

                                  I'd be willing to go for that.

                                  Bullshit. I am guessing by your name that you are associated with the program. If so, go back and read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=55 and follow the link.

                                  There is no reason why anyone has to take a paycut just because you can't get your shit together.

                                  If you are not associated with the program, then ignore the above.

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                                  • wyldblyss
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 5779

                                    #67
                                    Damn, this thread has been so interesting I read every single post

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                                    • pstation
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 1135

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                                      Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course ) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

                                      But yeah I can see your point.
                                      hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?

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                                      • baddog
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by pstation
                                        hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?

                                        I already did . . . . sorry about that.

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                                        • dial
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 1225

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                                          Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course ) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

                                          But yeah I can see your point.
                                          i think you all need to go back and rethink your entire affiliate marketing strategy. I am pulling all my flashlight links tonight until you all do...granted, it ain't a lot of traffic, and the 2 sales I DID have were "cancelled" (funny though, in all my years marketing tangible good I have never had a "cancelled" sale), I still am not going to bother with you all

                                          I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL
                                          boom chicka wah wah

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                                          • Ramos2
                                            Custom User Title
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 11927

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by dial

                                            I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL
                                            you are missing the point

                                            do your history, I am here to make changes

                                            affiliates is where my heart is.....

                                            you'll see, but continue as you may

                                            some good advice in this thread
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                                            • dial
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 1225

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Ramos
                                              you are missing the point

                                              do your history, I am here to make changes

                                              affiliates is where my heart is.....

                                              you'll see, but continue as you may

                                              some good advice in this thread
                                              is the 1 year cookie gone?

                                              are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks and also get webmaster referrals?

                                              are the traffic leaks fixed?

                                              say yes to all 3 and I might consider keeping on, but if you give me that "good points, we will work on them" one more time I will puke

                                              don't work on it, do it
                                              boom chicka wah wah

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                                              • Pete-KT
                                                Workin With The Devil
                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 51532

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Ramos
                                                you are missing the point

                                                do your history, I am here to make changes

                                                affiliates is where my heart is.....

                                                you'll see, but continue as you may

                                                some good advice in this thread

                                                Once the program is ready to go with all the correct info then I will be more then happy to add you into all my members areas ramos

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                                                • Ramos2
                                                  Custom User Title
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 11927

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by dial
                                                  is the 1 year cookie gone?

                                                  are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks and also get webmaster referrals?

                                                  are the traffic leaks fixed?

                                                  say yes to all 3 and I might consider keeping on, but if you give me that "good points, we will work on them" one more time I will puke

                                                  don't work on it, do it
                                                  yes sir
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                                                  • Ramos2
                                                    Custom User Title
                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 11927

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                    Once the program is ready to go with all the correct info then I will be more then happy to add you into all my members areas ramos
                                                    thank you pete
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                                                    • Pete-KT
                                                      Workin With The Devil
                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                      • 51532

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Ramos
                                                      thank you pete
                                                      anytime Ramos, hey ill see you at Xbiz in July bro

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                                                      • Ramos2
                                                        Custom User Title
                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 11927

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                        anytime Ramos, hey ill see you at Xbiz in July bro
                                                        Hells yeh
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                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 122992

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by dial

                                                          are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks
                                                          not yet bro

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                                                          • Walrus
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2005
                                                            • 2150

                                                            #79
                                                            Ramos, did you ever get my email about a free fleshlight? I helped DWreck out with something, and he asked me if I wanted a free fleshlight. Then he said to email you and that you'd get me one.

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                                                            • devilspost
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 3980

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                                                              Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

                                                              I'd be willing to go for that.
                                                              Right now it is 0% right?

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                                                              • jayeff
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 2944

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by dial
                                                                i think you all need to go back and rethink your entire affiliate marketing strategy...
                                                                <snip>
                                                                I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL
                                                                For the record, Fleshlight was invite-only from day one (1998-ish?) until a couple of months before Juicy & Co started promoting it on here. I guessed the belated flurry of activity was because sales were winding down and I have often wondered if any affiliates signed up from here have had any success with it.

                                                                If that was the reason for letting the riff-raff in (until for whatever reason they reverted to invite-only), no-one should be surprized that the program includes a few "trix". They might be oversights, but...

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                                                                • FleshJoe2005
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 287

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                  Bullshit. I am guessing by your name that you are associated with the program. If so, go back and read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=55 and follow the link.

                                                                  There is no reason why anyone has to take a paycut just because you can't get your shit together.

                                                                  If you are not associated with the program, then ignore the above.
                                                                  For the record I'm an affiliate. If you're an affiliate then I'm in the same class as you, exactly, to the dot.
                                                                  I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                                                                  Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
                                                                  ICQ: 325-310-821

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                                                                  • FleshJoe2005
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 287

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                    For the record, Fleshlight was invite-only from day one (1998-ish?) until a couple of months before Juicy & Co started promoting it on here. I guessed the belated flurry of activity was because sales were winding down and I have often wondered if any affiliates signed up from here have had any success with it.

                                                                    If that was the reason for letting the riff-raff in (until for whatever reason they reverted to invite-only), no-one should be surprized that the program includes a few "trix". They might be oversights, but...
                                                                    LOL never attribute to smart evil intentions what you can equally well explain by stupidity.... Enough said

                                                                    The program is in need of someone like Ramos to rationalize and reorganize it. Sales are not "winding down" in fact they're winding "up" for a huge explosion of profit. You probably arent making enough sales to be able to see that from the order numbers, thats the only way *I* can see it, because of the pitifully inadequate and ridiculously non-existent affiliate support tools, but yes, the sales are up tremendously year over year.
                                                                    I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                                                                    Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
                                                                    ICQ: 325-310-821

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                                                                    • FleshJoe2005
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                      • 287

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by pstation
                                                                      hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?
                                                                      LOL I was speaking figuratively. But yeah, you'll get checked out for sure. If its not your site then d'oh, but yeah, these things get noticed. If one day you send 3 clicks and the next you send 30000 you betcha they notice.
                                                                      I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                                                                      Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
                                                                      ICQ: 325-310-821

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                                                                      • FleshJoe2005
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                        • 287

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by devilspost
                                                                        Right now it is 0% right?
                                                                        Unfortunately yeah, and I've complained about the traffic leaks long before this thread hit GFY. Nothing doing, they intend to keep their 800 number super visible. Makes sense too. You just have to live with a few leaks. If you go to ftvgirls (not picking on them, just as an example) with my ref code, and then decide to sign up via the phone, I dont think I'll get my cut either.
                                                                        I convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
                                                                        Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
                                                                        ICQ: 325-310-821

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                                                                        • baddog
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 107089

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by FleshJoe2005
                                                                          For the record I'm an affiliate. If you're an affiliate then I'm in the same class as you, exactly, to the dot.

                                                                          Then why are you making comments about what will or will not get an affiliate banned?

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