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  • ModelPerfect
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 2862

    #1

    Is there a more USELESS service than ePassporte?

    So I'm trying to send money to a photographer in Russia, but I get an error that says, "For security reasons this feature is currently not available to your account." After 1.5 hours total time on the phone (of that 1.3 are on hold), ICQ messages and unanswered emails, I finally get ahold of someone who tells me Russia is "high risk" and therefore cannot receive money.

    After rounds of that, I ask to speak to someone higher up. Again, she says the entire country is high risk and cannot receive money. So even though I've called in, answered a zillion questions to confirm my identity, I can't send money because it's high risk. What's he going to do? cancel the transaction, so I get my money back? yeah, risky...I've confirmed the transfer itself is valid. Then she says there can be no exceptions because it's hard wired that ALL Russian accounts are high risk and NONE of them can receive P2P money.

    I questioned that statement, so she then tells me he has an affiliate account which cannot receive money (I never even gave her the account I was sending to, but I'll assume the error tells her that). Then she says if he signs up for another account, a personal account with a credit card, he can receive money...even though he's still in Russia. This is crazy.

    So now my production is held up because of one of the above reasons, which are apparently contradictory. Add this to the constant downage, bugs, lack of support, and $5 MINIMUM load fee, and I'm questioning why I ever use them...
    Logan
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  • juve20
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2005
    • 2542

    #2
    finally, someone argees with me! epassporte sucks ass!
    its shit!

    cheers
    tony
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    • Radiate
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 1454

      #3
      sounds like you had a shit time with them, hope you get your money to your destination soon

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      • Grapesoda
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jul 2003
        • 46234

        #4
        Originally posted by ModelPerfect
        So I'm trying to send money to a photographer in Russia, but I get an error that says, "For security reasons this feature is currently not available to your account." After 1.5 hours total time on the phone (of that 1.3 are on hold), ICQ messages and unanswered emails, I finally get ahold of someone who tells me Russia is "high risk" and therefore cannot receive money.
        that's how get rid of stuff we don't want . . . we insure it and the fedex it to russia . .

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        • woj
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          • Jul 2002
          • 47880

          #5
          yea, their support is not that great, how much are we talking about anyway? why don't you just wire him the money instead?
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          • JumpStreet21
            So Fucking Banned
            • May 2006
            • 77

            #6
            I dont see why people dont use paypal.

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            • The Demon
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 7336

              #7
              epassporte is a fucking joke. I ordered my replacement card 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't come in. Yet they conveniently took out $35 from my account. Fucking morons.
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              • tenderobject
                Need Designs? 312352846
                • Dec 2004
                • 11688

                #8
                whats the difference with me sending money to belgium to a scammer and sending money to a valid person in russia? weird. i hope they really hold that scammers epass acct which is from well known sponsor. that suck ass!


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                • tenderobject
                  Need Designs? 312352846
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 11688

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Demon
                  epassporte is a fucking joke. I ordered my replacement card 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't come in. Yet they conveniently took out $35 from my account. Fucking morons.
                  my card is almost dying. epassporte took 40$ or 35$ for a yearly fee and i think that is also for the card. can keyser explain this to me? sorry, im confused with the yearly fee and stuff. if it has yearly fee atleast send users every year a new card maybe im just confused.


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                  • dial
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2006
                    • 1225

                    #10
                    as long as epassporte spends all their money on contests on gfy and huge ads with famous people everywhere they can, instead of spending on making their system better, they will always be a shitty service

                    I have never in my life seen a company that brags about spending as much money as they do on contests and ads, while the customers complain daily
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                    • minusonebit
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7391

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dial
                      as long as epassporte spends all their money on contests on gfy and huge ads with famous people everywhere they can, instead of spending on making their system better, they will always be a shitty service

                      I have never in my life seen a company that brags about spending as much money as they do on contests and ads, while the customers complain daily
                      No shit. They even hold thier contests WHILE everyone is locked out of thier accounts or experincing some other clusterfuck of a problem.

                      Originally posted by The Demon
                      epassporte is a fucking joke. I ordered my replacement card 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't come in. Yet they conveniently took out $35 from my account. Fucking morons.
                      I just ordered my card for the first time. I wonder if I can look forward to the same treatment. =/

                      Originally posted by JumpStreet21
                      I dont see why people dont use paypal.
                      PayPal sucks even worse. And they have a huge list of countries you cant send to.

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                      • tenderobject
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                        • Dec 2004
                        • 11688

                        #12
                        no paypal in my place.


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                        • HairToStay
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1521

                          #13
                          One of my designers is in Russia and I warned him about this weeks ago when it came to light but he said he was fine. Next payment would not go through. So far each time I've paid him it's to a new account or a "friend" of his, which I'm not totally comfortable doing.
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                          • SunTzu
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                            • May 2002
                            • 456

                            #14
                            Didn't someone on gfy say they had a better solution they were developing? Any update on that?
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                            • Miguel T
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                              • May 2005
                              • 12470

                              #15
                              Damn, that sucks!

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                              • RogerV10
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                                • May 2006
                                • 1000

                                #16
                                Has been posted before, so many people with issues.

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                                • RogerV10
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                                  • May 2006
                                  • 1000

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SunTzu
                                  Didn't someone on gfy say they had a better solution they were developing? Any update on that?
                                  That would be Chio and apparently it fell through.

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                                  • madawgz
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                                    • Mar 2006
                                    • 30509

                                    #18
                                    epassporte rocks! its tax free! what more can you ask for????
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                                    • Cyrano
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2006
                                      • 923

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by madawgz
                                      epassporte rocks! its tax free! what more can you ask for????
                                      So is every other e-currency on the Internet.

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                                      • Webby
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 14956

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by madawgz
                                        epassporte rocks! its tax free! what more can you ask for????



                                        It's as tax free as the amount of tax fraud ya care to commit to
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                                        • Theo The Theologian
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                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 1099

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RogerV10
                                          That would be Chio and apparently it fell through.

                                          Bless You Version Roger... but where did you get the idea it "fell through"?

                                          It's still full steam ahead, just taking longer than expected to get some of the legal stuff taken care of.


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                                          • Michael O
                                            More Cowbell
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 10607

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ModelPerfect
                                            So I'm trying to send money to a photographer in Russia, but I get an error that says, "For security reasons this feature is currently not available to your account." After 1.5 hours total time on the phone (of that 1.3 are on hold), ICQ messages and unanswered emails, I finally get ahold of someone who tells me Russia is "high risk" and therefore cannot receive money.

                                            After rounds of that, I ask to speak to someone higher up. Again, she says the entire country is high risk and cannot receive money. So even though I've called in, answered a zillion questions to confirm my identity, I can't send money because it's high risk. What's he going to do? cancel the transaction, so I get my money back? yeah, risky...I've confirmed the transfer itself is valid. Then she says there can be no exceptions because it's hard wired that ALL Russian accounts are high risk and NONE of them can receive P2P money.

                                            I questioned that statement, so she then tells me he has an affiliate account which cannot receive money (I never even gave her the account I was sending to, but I'll assume the error tells her that). Then she says if he signs up for another account, a personal account with a credit card, he can receive money...even though he's still in Russia. This is crazy.

                                            So now my production is held up because of one of the above reasons, which are apparently contradictory. Add this to the constant downage, bugs, lack of support, and $5 MINIMUM load fee, and I'm questioning why I ever use them...
                                            Personal accounts from Russia, Vietnam, Moldova, Romania, Lithuania and Ukraine can no longer receive p2p transfers.
                                            The reason: to much fraud from those countries. Common business sense if the majority of fraud comes from a few countries they will be blocked.

                                            Accounts from those countries are still able to receive funds from business accounts, use the electron card and the virtual visa.
                                            Truth Teller

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                                            • Michael O
                                              More Cowbell
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 10607

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by juve20
                                              finally, someone argees with me! epassporte sucks ass!
                                              its shit!

                                              cheers
                                              tony
                                              If you have a problem with your account please email me your account name and I will look into it tomorrow.
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                                              • Michael O
                                                More Cowbell
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 10607

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JumpStreet21
                                                I dont see why people dont use paypal.
                                                Maybe because they don't allow adult related transactions and their service a limited to some countries?
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                                                • Michael O
                                                  More Cowbell
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 10607

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                                  epassporte is a fucking joke. I ordered my replacement card 4 weeks ago and it still hasn't come in. Yet they conveniently took out $35 from my account. Fucking morons.
                                                  Please email me your account name and I will check when it was mailed.
                                                  Sorry but no matter how hard we try, ePassporte can't control the USPS, atleast not yet.
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                                                  • Michael O
                                                    More Cowbell
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 10607

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tenderobject
                                                    whats the difference with me sending money to belgium to a scammer and sending money to a valid person in russia? weird. i hope they really hold that scammers epass acct which is from well known sponsor. that suck ass!
                                                    If 80% of the fraud is from the 6 countries mentioned above and there is less than 1% from Belgium what wouold you do?

                                                    I don't know the numbers this is just an example.
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                                                    • Michael O
                                                      More Cowbell
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 10607

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tenderobject
                                                      my card is almost dying. epassporte took 40$ or 35$ for a yearly fee and i think that is also for the card. can keyser explain this to me? sorry, im confused with the yearly fee and stuff. if it has yearly fee atleast send users every year a new card maybe im just confused.
                                                      A yearly fee of $35 for the Electron card is nothing new, its also stated in the terms when you signed up for ePassporte and/or ordered your Electron card.
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                                                      • Michael O
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                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 10607

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by dial
                                                        as long as epassporte spends all their money on contests on gfy and huge ads with famous people everywhere they can, instead of spending on making their system better, they will always be a shitty service

                                                        I have never in my life seen a company that brags about spending as much money as they do on contests and ads, while the customers complain daily
                                                        There is one monthly contest run by the marketing people all companies have a budget to promote themselves.

                                                        If you have a problem with your account please contact me and we will get it sorted out.
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                                                        • ThePornPusher
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 1823

                                                          #29
                                                          You have successfully logged in to your Personal ePassporte account!

                                                          -ePassporte is currently down for maintenance. Please check back in 15 minutes for balance information.


                                                          -500$ daily limit....


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                                                          • garce
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 7103

                                                            #30
                                                            Keyser, any idea when I can check my balance again? I've been getting this message for at least an hour:
                                                            ePassporte is currently down for maintenance. Please check back in 15 minutes for balance information.
                                                            Thanks

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                                                            • Michael O
                                                              More Cowbell
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 10607

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                              No shit. They even hold thier contests WHILE everyone is locked out of thier accounts or experincing some other clusterfuck of a problem.
                                                              Get your facts straight.
                                                              The problem started on Tuesday when the contest either started the previous Friday or the following Friday when most people had access to their accounts.


                                                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                              I just ordered my card for the first time. I wonder if I can look forward to the same treatment. =/



                                                              PayPal sucks even worse. And they have a huge list of countries you cant send to.
                                                              In most cases the cards are received quickly, sometimes the card gets lost in the mail but if that is the case we simply send a new card.
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                                                              • garce
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 7103

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ThePornPusher
                                                                You have successfully logged in to your Personal ePassporte account!

                                                                -ePassporte is currently down for maintenance. Please check back in 15 minutes for balance information.
                                                                Beat me by a few seconds...

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                                                                • bdld
                                                                  $100,000
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 11452

                                                                  #33
                                                                  epass has its uses, but dont expect it to compete with paypal.

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                                                                  • Michael O
                                                                    More Cowbell
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 10607

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RogerV10
                                                                    Has been posted before, so many people with issues.

                                                                    With a big company with thousands of users there will always be some that run into problems or are unhappy.

                                                                    I've said it before but I thinks its become "in" to bash ePassporte on GFY if someone has a tiny little problem.
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                                                                    • Michael O
                                                                      More Cowbell
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 10607

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by garce
                                                                      Keyser, any idea when I can check my balance again? I've been getting this message for at least an hour:

                                                                      Thanks

                                                                      Sorry no, the maintenance message will show if there is a problem with the bank ePassporte uses.
                                                                      Its out of ePassporte's hands.
                                                                      But it should be solved shortly.
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                                                                      • Michael O
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 10607

                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • garce
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 7103

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                                          Sorry no, the maintenance message will show if there is a problem with the bank ePassporte uses.
                                                                          Its out of ePassporte's hands.
                                                                          But it should be solved shortly.
                                                                          Ok, thanks. I'll just hit the sack and check in the morning, then.

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                                                                          • ModelPerfect
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 2862

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                                            Personal accounts from Russia, Vietnam, Moldova, Romania, Lithuania and Ukraine can no longer receive p2p transfers.
                                                                            The reason: to much fraud from those countries. Common business sense if the majority of fraud comes from a few countries they will be blocked.

                                                                            Accounts from those countries are still able to receive funds from business accounts, use the electron card and the virtual visa.
                                                                            Please answer me something Keyser:
                                                                            So now it's not possible at all again?

                                                                            Keyser, please tell me why:

                                                                            (1) the "higher up" epass official first states it's impossible for Russian accounts to receive money only to then say that it was because he has an affiliate account and a personal one would work fine (so she actively encouraged me to tell my producer to get a personal account to receive money) and now you say personal Russian accounts can not receive money.

                                                                            (2) it is considered high risk even though I've called in and verified everything. Don't you think there should be a way to circumvent the blocks in cases where there's obvious validation?!? There should be a way to call in and add a recipient to some list to whom future transfers would be allowed, regardless of location.

                                                                            I'm sorry, bro, but I've been with epass for about 3 years, and I've never been impressed. Anytime I have to do even the simplest tasks with my account it's a major hassle. And now this asinine hard-coded rule is holding up a production and forcing me to find another solution. I'm really tired of epass failing me constantly.
                                                                            Logan
                                                                            modelperfect [at] gmail.com
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                                                                            • ModelPerfect
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 2862

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                                              With a big company with thousands of users there will always be some that run into problems or are unhappy.

                                                                              I've said it before but I thinks its become "in" to bash ePassporte on GFY if someone has a tiny little problem.
                                                                              If it's "in" to bash epassporte, don't you think that's an indicator of a MAJOR problem?
                                                                              Logan
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                                                                              • JakeR
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 1760

                                                                                #40
                                                                                russia is full of scamming idiots. good for them for blocking out all of you. if you don't like the way they conduct business, blame it on your scamming 'fellow countrymen' for fucking up business for the rest of the honest folks in your country. For every 1 legit russian bussinesman there are 20 scammers, it's a fact of life, deal with it and find an alternative.
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                                                                                • Jay_StandAhead
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 3103

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I've asked epassporte a old statement and they never replied. Their customer support really sucks, but it's still a much needed service

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                                                                                  • martinsc
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                                    • 27043

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    i couldn't live without my epassporte...
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                                                                                    • ModelPerfect
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 2862

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by JakeR
                                                                                      russia is full of scamming idiots. good for them for blocking out all of you. if you don't like the way they conduct business, blame it on your scamming 'fellow countrymen' for fucking up business for the rest of the honest folks in your country. For every 1 legit russian bussinesman there are 20 scammers, it's a fact of life, deal with it and find an alternative.
                                                                                      Why are you saying "fellow countrymen"?!? I'm US born and bred.
                                                                                      And I'm not faulting them for putting a block up; I'm faulting them for not having enough flexibility to listen to their customers and allowing some usefulness of their service upon manual verification. I'm also faulting them for apparently giving out false information on the phone.
                                                                                      Logan
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                                                                                      • Egomancer
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                                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                                        • 2074

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Model perfect - the only way you can send money is to have a business acount. If you donot have that, then you can not send them, even if the guy has a personal account.

                                                                                        I have a personal account and I can not receive p2p payements.

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                                                                                        • circlekhabib
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                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 490

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I will look into it tomorrow
                                                                                          now that's excellent customer service.

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                                                                                          • JFK
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                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                            • 67369

                                                                                            #46
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                                                                                            • ModelPerfect
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                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 2862

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Egomancer
                                                                                              Model perfect - the only way you can send money is to have a business acount. If you donot have that, then you can not send them, even if the guy has a personal account.

                                                                                              I have a personal account and I can not receive p2p payements.

                                                                                              Egomancer
                                                                                              I have a personal account and I have been sending and receiving sporadically for years. I was always told NOT to get a business account, because it's just too much trouble and more restrictions. I'm certainly not an authority on epass, I'm just relaying what I've experienced and have been told. BTW, I'm not trying to keep this thread alive, but since I was addressed personally, I felt compelled to reply...
                                                                                              Logan
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                                                                                              • xclicks
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                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                • 78

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                wow..
                                                                                                So you just add some limitation..
                                                                                                Do u have this on your new TOS?
                                                                                                Do u have a TOS ?
                                                                                                Did u send a letter to let the people know about this?

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                                                                                                And now u havbe the guts to post here and say this is normal...

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                                                                                                • candyflip
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 43072

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I still have had NO LUCK using my Epassporte card that I payed good money for.

                                                                                                  I've changed my pin. Tried that. ATM, Swipe terminals...not a single one has worked.

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                                                                                                  • okdesign
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                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                    • 24773

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    EPASSPORTE ROCKS FOR ME!!

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