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  • The Duck
    Adult Content Provider
    • May 2005
    • 18243

    #1

    WARNING!!! Do not buy traffic from http://adult-traffic-solutions.com A-S-T

    He ran a deal a few weeks ago selling chinese traffic. I snapped it up and bought a total of $250 worth of traffic. 500K uniques in total.

    Said and done I told him to send me minimum 5K uniques a day to one of my sites. A few days went by and I saw that he didnt deliver even close to 5K a day, it was about 2K over 4 days. What really bugged me was that his stats showed about 5-10 times the amount actually served. That would be fine if the cap was set at 5-10 times the purchased amount yet it was set at 500K.

    I talk to him and ask him whats up, he said that he wasnt responsible for the traffic because he buys it from a friend in China. I ask him to refund and he refuses saying the traffic will be delivered end of story. I now ask him to shoot the traffic to the out.cgi on one of my tgps so that I have two stats trackers following every single hit.

    A few days goes by, same problem. I hit him up tell him to freeze the traffic and refund. He refuses and goes away for a week without leaving notice.

    I just talked to him and asked him to refund my money, I even said I could pay for the amounth served.

    He basically told me the same thing "I will send the traffic to you", I replied that I dont want his service anymore he says "My TOS says I dont refund" well fuck you where in the TOS does it say you can screw customers over?

    I told him to send me the money or I would go public, he basically told me to fuck off and go public. I bet he will be in this thread explaining this and that very soon.

    My recommendation is to not do business with this guy at all.

    FUCK ADULT TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS http://adult-traffic-solutions.com <- SCAMMER
    Skype Horusmaia
    ICQ 41555245
    Email [email protected]
  • tenderobject
    Need Designs? 312352846
    • Dec 2004
    • 11688

    #2
    sorry to hear that bro.. goodluck to both parties.


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    • tiger
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 6986

      #3
      Yep I'm in the same boat. Bought the 250 package. His stats show way more then my out.cgi is showing. Completely ridiculous. Traffic is absolutely garbage and he isn't sending anywhere near what he says he is. I have sent him many messages and he refuses to reply.

      Waste of fucking money. I wouldn't do business with this clown again.

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      • tiger
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 6986

        #4
        I hate bashing people so I sent the guy a message right before I posted this and he replied this time. So I will hold off my judgement until I see what he has to say.

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        • Mr. Blue
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
          • 536

          #5
          So...does your traffic trades realize you're feeding them worthless Chinese traffic?
          See Sig...oh wait.

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          • Adult Site Traffic
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2003
            • 5093

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Blue
            So...does your traffic trades realize you're feeding them worthless Chinese traffic?
            That's not your concern how they run their business.

            If you knew who some of my REALLY major clients are, I'm talking MILLIONS of Chinese, just to make those counters fire higher up on the sextracker list, you'd shit your pants and this board would have another huge scandal.

            The only reason these guys are public is because they brought theirselves public.

            A-S-T

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            • Adult Site Traffic
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 5093

              #7
              Tiger, you're taken care of.

              Kandah, you have your ultimatum on ICQ.

              Appologize for shitting on me after I spent my own time to help you or it let it stand the way it is.

              A-S-T

              ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me!
              Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here }

              .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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              • pawsregd
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2005
                • 2290

                #8
                Here we go again with this clown

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                • The Duck
                  Adult Content Provider
                  • May 2005
                  • 18243

                  #9
                  yup we made a new agreement now, lets see how this goes. I hold of judgement as well until I have results.
                  Skype Horusmaia
                  ICQ 41555245
                  Email [email protected]

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                  • Mr. Blue
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 536

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                    That's not your concern how they run their business.
                    Actually, it's completely the concern of everyone that's trading traffic with them and the people that are trading traffic with their trading partners. Pumping worthless traffic to a trade in hopes of getting productive traffic is basically lame.

                    Now, I don't care who the fuck you sell traffic to, who's ass would be in a scandal, etc. Just because some dipshits post their moronic schemes on boards and others do it on the quiet, doesn't mean that it's right or fair to the people that trade traffic in good faith and get crap chinese traffic in return.

                    You see, just because some people do it and do it quietly, doesn't make it right. You saying that posting that information would cause a scandal, well, doesn't that kind of support the fact that it is wrong to do?

                    Now, you say it's not anyones concern how they run their business...you know that's bullshit as if they're trading traffic, using worthless traffic, they're basically fucking with the system and it's wrong.
                    See Sig...oh wait.

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                    • garce
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7103

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                      Actually, it's completely the concern of everyone that's trading traffic with them and the people that are trading traffic with their trading partners. Pumping worthless traffic to a trade in hopes of getting productive traffic is basically lame.

                      Now, I don't care who the fuck you sell traffic to, who's ass would be in a scandal, etc. Just because some dipshits post their moronic schemes on boards and others do it on the quiet, doesn't mean that it's right or fair to the people that trade traffic in good faith and get crap chinese traffic in return.

                      You see, just because some people do it and do it quietly, doesn't make it right. You saying that posting that information would cause a scandal, well, doesn't that kind of support the fact that it is wrong to do?

                      Now, you say it's not anyones concern how they run their business...you know that's bullshit as if they're trading traffic, using worthless traffic, they're basically fucking with the system and it's wrong.
                      This needs to be restated.

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                      • Adult Site Traffic
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5093

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                        Actually, it's completely the concern of everyone that's trading traffic with them and the people that are trading traffic with their trading partners. Pumping worthless traffic to a trade in hopes of getting productive traffic is basically lame.

                        Now, I don't care who the fuck you sell traffic to, who's ass would be in a scandal, etc. Just because some dipshits post their moronic schemes on boards and others do it on the quiet, doesn't mean that it's right or fair to the people that trade traffic in good faith and get crap chinese traffic in return.

                        You see, just because some people do it and do it quietly, doesn't make it right. You saying that posting that information would cause a scandal, well, doesn't that kind of support the fact that it is wrong to do?

                        Now, you say it's not anyones concern how they run their business...you know that's bullshit as if they're trading traffic, using worthless traffic, they're basically fucking with the system and it's wrong.
                        I see your point but do you see mine? I never condone or not condone this action. I hold a neutral ground, so I never said it was right ... or wrong so I guess there are no facts to be supported.

                        They buy, I sell. That's how I make my money. I'm not the only broker who sells Chinese you know, and people do buy it.

                        If you don't want Chinese traffic on your site(s), then you need to take proactive measures against it, just like I do on my sites that I don't want it on.

                        Just as you would take proactive measures against hijacking, or hotlinking, right?

                        You don't know who's going to send you chinese traffic or whether it's being "sent" or if it's coming in from some hotlink or hack board somewhere.

                        If you sell someone a can of spray paint, do you give a fuck what it's for or is it just a product for sale, a sale made and a profit returned?

                        Here, this may help you and it may not. You cannot redirect from one domain to another page on the same domain, you will be thrown into a loop.

                        The exception to this is when this .htaccess is within a folder and you're redirecting outside of that folder, on the same domain.

                        It's better to have one domain (or folder without this .htaccess file in the root) to handle your chinese traffic and redirect everything there.

                        This will get most of them.

                        Code:
                        ###CHINA REDIRECT START
                        RewriteEngine on 
                        Options +FollowSymlinks 
                        RewriteBase /  
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh-cn [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh-mo [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh-hk [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh-sg [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Language}  ^zh-tw [NC]
                        RewriteRule ^(.*) http://some-OTHER-domain.com
                        ###CHINA REDIRECT END
                        A-S-T

                        ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me!
                        Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here }

                        .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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                        • Miguel T
                          ♦ Web Developer ♦
                          • May 2005
                          • 12470

                          #13
                          I love drama threads!

                          Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

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                          • Mr. Blue
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 536

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                            I see your point but do you see mine? I never condone or not condone this action. I hold a neutral ground, so I never said it was right ... or wrong so I guess there are no facts to be supported.
                            Actually, if you reread my original post, I wasn't criticizing you for selling the traffic. You have chinese traffic available, you sell it, you're not responsible for what people do with it. And I remember when you first had for sale you said this to a comment made, "I never try to sell it for prod, that would be just plain wrong."

                            You were upfront...you have chinese traffic. Now, don't get me wrong...I hope no one buys it from you, lol, but I don't think it's your fault when they do.

                            Now if some nimrod posts that they're using chinese traffic to screw their trades...you can see how it would be of concern to some honest webmasters that trade in good faith with other sites. So, yeah the practice of pumping chinese traffic through your tradescript is a fucking lame ass thing to do...so that's what I was commenting on.

                            Anyway, be happy about one thing, he's posted this on every forum imaginable...at every place people comment not on you, but the fact that he's screwing over his trades with chinese traffic, lol.
                            See Sig...oh wait.

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                            • Adult Site Traffic
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5093

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                              Actually, if you reread my original post, I wasn't criticizing you for selling the traffic.
                              You're right. I was just commenting on the "support the fact that it is wrong" part. I don't care what they legally do with it, however I do not support or allow any illegal uses which I also include as malware, trojans, hacks, auto-downloading or spies.

                              Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                              Anyway, be happy about one thing, he's posted this on every forum imaginable...at every place people comment not on you, but the fact that he's screwing over his trades with chinese traffic, lol.
                              Yea, he'd have been better off to let me handle it for him, which I was doing, while he was posting behind my back. He doesn't seem to be making a lot of brownie points and new friends by telling his deeds.

                              Unfortunately for me, it's taking up most of my day cleaning up his mess, and I still intend to help him .. what a fool I must be. LOL.

                              A-S-T

                              .

                              ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me!
                              Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here }

                              .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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                              • Manowar
                                jellyfish  
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 71528

                                #16
                                thanks for the headsup

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                                • sfera
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 8597

                                  #17
                                  thanks for the heads up bro

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                                  • CyberHustler
                                    Masterbaiter
                                    • Feb 2006
                                    • 28789

                                    #18
                                    both you guys are scammers
                                    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                    • xmas13
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 5176

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BuySexProducts
                                      both you guys are scammers
                                      Point made
                                      ICQ 557504926

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                                      • fetishblog
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2005
                                        • 5995

                                        #20
                                        Awesome thread. See my sig. Go signup now.

                                        Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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                                        • fetishblog
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2005
                                          • 5995

                                          #21
                                          Oh, by the way...

                                          Asia Friend Finder is converting Chinese traffic at about 1:235.

                                          Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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                                          • RadiantX
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 548

                                            #22
                                            Wow, I remember this guy also. A friend of mine that owns gatorbang.com bought $30 of traffic just to test him out a year or so ago. He received 1/3 (maybe even less) than the amount he bought. He tried to discuss the issue over ICQ and was blocked. So he had me try to debate the issue with him/her, and he blocked me too! Great customer service huh? He had his web host review the traffic logs just in case the trade script might have missed some incoming hits, both sets of stats were nearly identical. The guy wouldnt refund his money, so he just called his bank and paypal to notify them of the situation - got his $30 back. He was lucky, I'm sure others aren't so lucky. Be extra careful buying traffic from sites such as these.

                                            ~

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                                            • Adult Site Traffic
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 5093

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RadiantX
                                              Wow, I remember this guy also. A friend of mine that owns gatorbang.com bought $30 of traffic just to test him out a year or so ago. He received 1/3 (maybe even less) than the amount he bought. He tried to discuss the issue over ICQ and was blocked. So he had me try to debate the issue with him/her, and he blocked me too! Great customer service huh? He had his web host review the traffic logs just in case the trade script might have missed some incoming hits, both sets of stats were nearly identical. The guy wouldnt refund his money, so he just called his bank and paypal to notify them of the situation - got his $30 back. He was lucky, I'm sure others aren't so lucky. Be extra careful buying traffic from sites such as these.
                                              First of all, you're telling half of the story and telling it incorrectly.

                                              I don't have $30.00 packages and I never have had.

                                              The reason he was blocked over ICQ, and subsequently you were also, was because I explained it to him a thousand times and he still didn't get it.

                                              Your friend wasn't using server side stats he was using a java counter and you're lying when you said that they were compared to script stats, because he told me himself that his host told him there weren't records of the stats kept over 24 hours and since I archive (almost) all of my e-mails, chances are if he e-mailed me on this subject of host/stats, I can dig up the e-mail and prove it.

                                              To receive a refund from Paypal, your friend lied and told Paypal that he ordered hard goods that never arrived, and Paypal asked me to provide a delivery receipt from FedEx or similar company for said hard goods, which of course was impossible to produce. .. and we all know that Paypal has a virtual product no refund policy.

                                              Now, to complete the story, tell us what happened to your friend's Verified Paypal account roughly 10 days later?

                                              Yes, he managed to burn me for $25.00, but as outlined in my zero fraud policy, I consider that fraud and he was dealt with accordingly for stealing money from me. Whether he was ignorant of the facts or not, does not excuse him of his actions.

                                              A-S-T

                                              ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me!
                                              Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here }

                                              .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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                                              • RadiantX
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2005
                                                • 548

                                                #24
                                                No java my friend, its a script called Raptor (www.zeroquest.com) and the web host confirmed the stats w/ the servers traffic logs. And his paypal account is and has always been active. You are probably confusing him w/ someone else you scammed.

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                                                • CyberHustler
                                                  Masterbaiter
                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 28789

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RadiantX
                                                  No java my friend, its a script called Raptor (www.zeroquest.com) and the web host confirmed the stats w/ the servers traffic logs. And his paypal account is and has always been active. You are probably confusing him w/ someone else you scammed.
                                                  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                  • pimp
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 200

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by RadiantX
                                                    No java my friend, its a script called Raptor (www.zeroquest.com) and the web host confirmed the stats w/ the servers traffic logs. And his paypal account is and has always been active. You are probably confusing him w/ someone else you scammed.
                                                    O Snap.....
                                                    .::: e-nic.com - buy and sell domains:::.

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                                                    • archiveman
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 88

                                                      #27
                                                      thanks for the heads up. http://adult-site-traffic.com/ is now on my blacklist.

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                                                      • martinsc
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                        • 27043

                                                        #28
                                                        again? always drama with AST....
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