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Fleshlight WTF whats with the traffic leaks?

05-05-2006, 10:55 AM

You guys redid the Site, and it looks good and all BUT WHAT THE FUCK is up with all the traffic leaks? seriously this is BS, there are more phone numbers showing up now for people to call in an order instead of order with my ref code and then also sending people to other pages and then if they come back to fleshlight its with a differnt ref code? what the fuck is that shit all about?

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then when you click fleshlight on the left navigation you get this
http://www.fleshlight.com/main/index.php?ref=55806

SO WHO THE FUCK IS ref=55806 ????/ I bet he is getting a shit load of sales that dont belong to him?????????????????
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05-05-2006, 10:57 AM

Hmm.......

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05-05-2006, 10:57 AM

i guess just asking ramos or juicy would have beebn out of the question

noted...and hope it doesnt come back to you about your program..when something minor happens

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05-05-2006, 10:58 AM

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05-05-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

i guess just asking ramos or juicy would have beebn out of the question

noted...and hope it doesnt come back to you about your program..when something minor happens

Was mentioned planty of times before the site was redone
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05-05-2006, 10:58 AM

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05-05-2006, 10:59 AM

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05-05-2006, 11:00 AM

gotta love the # listed on the site too, sure affiliates don't get credited from sales via phone either.
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05-05-2006, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

i guess just asking ramos or juicy would have beebn out of the question

noted...and hope it doesnt come back to you about your program..when something minor happens

The things mentioned aren't something minor imo, things like this need an explaination. Could have been off the board ofcourse but lets see ;))

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05-05-2006, 11:02 AM

talk to ramos i just send affs dont have any say on other stuff
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05-05-2006, 11:03 AM

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05-05-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

Petey.................we miss you!!!

wait, arent you banned!

Banned for what? for telling the truth?
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05-05-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

talk to ramos i just send affs dont have any say on other stuff

Ramos seems to take it as a joke, not bashing him but a more proff. answer would be nice don't you agree ;)))

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05-05-2006, 11:04 AM

Oh well. I've only ever had 2 sales with that program. I don't expect anymore since the last one was months ago. Bleh.

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05-05-2006, 11:04 AM

all site should have dual tours, one for type in sales and one for affiliates...that goes for online stores too if they are planning on having traffic leaks

and for the fleshlight rep to come on gfy and make fun of the poster, well that is just tacky

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05-05-2006, 11:12 AM

We hide our phone # for this reason.

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05-05-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by QuaShe

Ramos seems to take it as a joke, not bashing him but a more proff. answer would be nice don't you agree ;)))

Fleshlight has a lifetime cookie, that ref code is tracking from the fleshlight media site (internal website) and is an internal ref code, meaning no one owns that ref code.

PeteKT still gets the credit for the sale from the original click

due to the lifetime cookie..

this is why we have implemented the lifetime cookie

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05-05-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

(use the search function)

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05-05-2006, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

Fleshlight has a lifetime cookie, that ref code is tracking from the fleshlight media site (internal website) and is an internal ref code, meaning no one owns that ref code.

PeteKT still gets the credit for the sale from the original click

due to the lifetime cookie..

this is why we have implemented the lifetime cookie

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K thanks for the info Ramos, helps out and I will keep my links up
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05-05-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

Fleshlight has a lifetime cookie, that ref code is tracking from the fleshlight media site (internal website) and is an internal ref code, meaning no one owns that ref code.

PeteKT still gets the credit for the sale from the original click

due to the lifetime cookie..

this is why we have implemented the lifetime cookie

and Pete is my friend, not bashing, bustin balls......(use the search function)

Don't know if he is your friend or not, I really don't care. POint is, people read this thread and see you (the fleshlight guy) post a pretty simple reply.

But this 2nd reply seems a bit better, so lets continue with the rest ;))))

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05-05-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Pete-KT

K thanks for the info Ramos, helps out and I will keep my links up

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05-05-2006, 11:17 AM

wait, so with the fleshlight lifetime cookie, does that mean that once my cookie is dropped, NO ONE else can make a sale on fleshlight from that user?

so, if someone spends all day surfing for porn and clicks a fleshlight link from somewhere else, then they come to my site a month later and I sell the hell out of them for a fleshlight and they click my link because I sold them HARD....I won't get credit for the sale because some other 400k unique a day site happen to have them click first a month ago?

that is jacked up dude

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05-05-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

i guess just asking ramos or juicy would have beebn out of the question

noted...and hope it doesnt come back to you about your program..when something minor happens

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05-05-2006, 11:19 AM

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05-05-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by dial

wait, so with the fleshlight lifetime cookie, does that mean that once my cookie is dropped, NO ONE else can make a sale on fleshlight from that user?

so, if someone spends all day surfing for porn and clicks a fleshlight link from somewhere else, then they come to my site a month later and I sell the hell out of them for a fleshlight and they click my link because I sold them HARD....I won't get credit for the sale because some other 400k unique a day site happen to have them click first a month ago?

that is jacked up dude

Imagine promoting it on a 850k uniques a day site lol

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05-05-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by QuaShe

But this 2nd reply seems a bit better, so lets continue with the rest ;))))

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05-05-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

Fleshlight has a lifetime cookie, that ref code is tracking from the fleshlight media site (internal website) and is an internal ref code, meaning no one owns that ref code.

PeteKT still gets the credit for the sale from the original click

due to the lifetime cookie..

this is why we have implemented the lifetime cookie

and Pete is my friend, not bashing, bustin balls......(use the search function)

So what if someone calls in an order? Do they just say, "Uh yeah, I went to this page with PeteKT's ref code on it, and I'd like him to get credit for this sale."? I'm not being a smart ass, just merely wondering how you would keep track of phone orders.

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05-05-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Ecksent

So what if someone calls in an order? Do they just say, "Uh yeah, I went to this page with PeteKT's ref code on it, and I'd like him to get credit for this sale."? I'm not being a smart ass, just merely wondering how you would keep track of phone orders.

They don't?

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05-05-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by QuaShe

Imagine promoting it on a 850k uniques a day site lol

no shit...damn...this is kind of messed up....shit, wish I had some traffic like that, I would just put up links all over my site that said "click her for more satisfaction" in a huge font and reap the lifetime cookie benefits

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05-05-2006, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Ecksent

So what if someone calls in an order? Do they just say, "Uh yeah, I went to this page with PeteKT's ref code on it, and I'd like him to get credit for this sale."? I'm not being a smart ass, just merely wondering how you would keep track of phone orders.

it is pretty common for a tangible goods shop to have a phone call in order #, that should bother anyone....I do agree that there should be seperate entriess into the online store, one for affiliates and one for non-affiliates, but even the largest dvd stores online have phone #'s to call in orders...it doesn't happen as often as you might think

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05-05-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by dial

it is pretty common for a tangible goods shop to have a phone call in order #, that should bother anyone....I do agree that there should be seperate entriess into the online store, one for affiliates and one for non-affiliates, but even the largest dvd stores online have phone #'s to call in orders...it doesn't happen as often as you might think

I tend to think so too, guess most don't want to pick up the phone and say "'hello my name is Jo Jerkoff, can you get me a fleshlight?". Not sure though ;)))

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05-05-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Ecksent

So what if someone calls in an order? Do they just say, "Uh yeah, I went to this page with PeteKT's ref code on it, and I'd like him to get credit for this sale."? I'm not being a smart ass, just merely wondering how you would keep track of phone orders.

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.
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05-05-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by QuaShe

I tend to think so too, guess most don't want to pick up the phone and say "'hello my name is Jo Jerkoff, can you get me a fleshlight?". Not sure though ;)))

hahaha..yeah...can you imagine someplace like adultdvdempire.com getting calls all the time "hey there, I would love to order shemale anal adventured vol 1-4 and suck my shemale asshole bitch vol 1...and oh yeah, can you throw in valumes 1-6 of shemale eats ass and cock for lunch?"

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05-05-2006, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by dial

it is pretty common for a tangible goods shop to have a phone call in order #, that should bother anyone....I do agree that there should be seperate entriess into the online store, one for affiliates and one for non-affiliates, but even the largest dvd stores online have phone #'s to call in orders...it doesn't happen as often as you might think

True, I guess. I just couldn't see myself calling up and ordering "The Mocha Butt Fleshlight, with the Speed Bump and the Wonder Wave inserts. And oh yeah, I'd like to get that Years supply of lube also."

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05-05-2006, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

ooooo....you sir, are a wise man

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05-05-2006, 11:29 AM

the phone problem is partially solved by having a seperate # for pages coming from affiliates and having something like..."1-800-555-1212, please mention code 12345"
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05-05-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

That would be an idea yes

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05-05-2006, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

I agree, and you will see these changes, as well as many others i've gathered.

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05-05-2006, 11:35 AM

jesus, now I am thinking about this shit even harder

so, if someone clicks a link 6 months ago and doesn't pay it attention, but then I sell the fuck out of an affiliate and close that bitch, they click my link and it won't make a BIT OF DIFFERENCE, because they clicked a link 6 MONTHS AGO from some shitty tgp

I am all for a nice time frame for cookies, but jesus you all, a month is fine, not a freaking lifetime!

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05-05-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Ramos

I agree, and you will see these changes, as well as many others i've gathered.
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05-05-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

That would solve the whole problem. It can't be that hard to add into the system.

And I do agree with dial on the cookie problem. There are affialiates that are getting sales even though the sale didn't come from their site. Its like a password trading site that no one really likes anyway puts up a small hot pic of a girl. Then a surfer will click it to see the large version. Now they have their cookie. And then when that surfer goes to a site that is honestly trying to sell Flesh Lights, well they'll get fucked on it.

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05-05-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by King Adam

That would solve the whole problem. It can't be that hard to add into the system.

And I do agree with dial on the cookie problem. There are affialiates that are getting sales even though the sale didn't come from their site. Its like a password trading site that no one really likes anyway puts up a small hot pic of a girl. Then a surfer will click it to see the large version. Now they have their cookie. And then when that surfer goes to a site that is honestly trying to sell Flesh Lights, well they'll get fucked on it.

the cookie madness has GOT TO stop....I personally think that a 30 day cookie is just fine, these year cookies that don't get overwritten are TOTAL overkill

If I try and sell someone a site and they don't buy, but someone a month later is able to make the sale from their pages, I have no troubles handing that sale off to the next person, because I wasn't able to close that sale

when you go to buy a car and end up loving the car, but the salesman sucks and move onto the next dealership, the next salesman is WAY better and tried so much harder to close the sale and did it in a way that you couldn't resist, does that first salesman that sucked get credit for the sale? i think not

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05-05-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by dial

jesus, now I am thinking about this shit even harder

so, if someone clicks a link 6 months ago and doesn't pay it attention, but then I sell the fuck out of an affiliate and close that bitch, they click my link and it won't make a BIT OF DIFFERENCE, because they clicked a link 6 MONTHS AGO from some shitty tgp

I am all for a nice time frame for cookies, but jesus you all, a month is fine, not a freaking lifetime!

unless fleshlight has it set up differently, a new cookie would overwrite the old one. so the last click wins.

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05-05-2006, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

unless fleshlight has it set up differently, a new cookie would overwrite the old one. so the last click wins.

from Ramos said here:

PeteKT still gets the credit for the sale from the original click

due to the lifetime cookie..

whoever created the original click gets the sale

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05-05-2006, 11:53 AM

calm down Francis - cookies, lifetime or otherwise, usually don't work that way - it's the most recent affiliate who gets credit - and if Fleshlight isn't set up like that then yeah it's useless. theHun could put a hidden frame and cookie half the Internet with his affiliate ID if that was the case.

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05-05-2006, 12:33 PM

Always thought most recent cookie wins...

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05-05-2006, 03:32 PM

This thread is wack.

The point is, that if someone goes to fleshlight.com through your link, then calls in an order the affiliate doesn't get credit. People LOVE to call in orders.

The online biz is a learning experience and I think they should learn from this thread, that that's not the best way to have their site if they're going to push the affiliate program so hard.

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05-05-2006, 03:33 PM

wow, and still NOT ONE response from Ramos about the one year cookie shit

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05-05-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by davethetruth

This thread is wack.

The point is, that if someone goes to fleshlight.com through your link, then calls in an order the affiliate doesn't get credit. People LOVE to call in orders.

The customer support number is something that we had implemented for customers (mostly word of mouth customers via type in traffic ) who are insecure about placing orders via credit card on the net (yes, they are still out there). The % of calls that lead to a sale is very low.

The chances of a surfer that you bring to the site, actually leading into a phone sale....is like TDF getting accepted by the black race.

chances are slim.

Besides who would call in an order for a sex product "Hey Man, my mr. limpy isn't keeping wood"

Originally posted by davethetruth

The online biz is a learning experience and I think they should learn from this thread, that that's not the best way to have their site if they're going to push the affiliate program so hard.

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05-05-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Ramos

The chances of a surfer that you bring to the site, actually leading into a phone sale....is like TDF getting accepted by the black race.

chances are slim.

Besides who would call in an order for a sex product "Hey Man, my mr. limpy isn't keeping wood"

then why put an order number ? put a support number and tell them all orders must be placed over the internet...

No offense but if your going to say " chances are slim " you should post actual phone orders %.

What is the % of orders you do over the phone out of curiosity..

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