I usually agree with the ACLU, but this is fucked up

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  • Hornydog4cooter
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2005
    • 2859

    #51
    Originally posted by Juilan
    The unfortunate part of protecting free speech for all is it has to be done for everyone you don't like, that's the essential part of it.




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    • Drake
      Hello world!
      • Mar 2003
      • 12508

      #52
      Originally posted by Mike33
      We do all three things. There are certain guns that are banned. Their are certain liquors that are banned because of the deadly high alchohol content. We do racial profiling all the time, many cases currently involving Arabs.

      I'm supposed to be able to do anything I want in the privacy of my own home, but I can't because I'm not allowed to own a DVD that's considered obscene according to obscenity laws. Freedoms, including free speech, are often restricted. Again, nobody is saying these people can't protest. nobody is saying a new law needs to be created to ban them. Nobody is banning them. They're saying just keep a distance for the procession.

      Most people will champion the "Freedom of speech" line as the end all be all but it isn't, and that's why these issues always come around time and time again.

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      • vvq
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        • Feb 2004
        • 2732

        #53
        let them protest. it does more harm for their cause than good. it only shows the public how stupid they are.

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        • pr0
          rockin tha trailerpark
          • May 2001
          • 23088

          #54
          Originally posted by Mike33
          I'm supposed to be able to do anything I want in the privacy of my own home, but I can't because I'm not allowed to own a DVD that's considered obscene according to obscenity laws. Freedoms, including free speech, are often restricted. Again, nobody is saying these people can't protest. nobody is saying a new law needs to be created to ban them. Nobody is banning them. They're saying just keep a distance for the procession.

          Most people will champion the "Freedom of speech" line as the end all be all but it isn't, and that's why these issues always come around time and time again.
          "They're saying just keep a distance for the procession."

          THEY aren't saying keep a distance..... A judge....in some courthouse somewhere, is saying keep a distance. And so long as a judge is passing a law....aclu members will be there to make sure its constitutional. And if it impedes, it will be fought.

          There can't be exceptions to the rule. You just can't have it....its either constitutional or its not....period....there is no gray area.
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          • Webby
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 14956

            #55
            Originally posted by clickhappy
            that Katrina bullshit?
            http://www.godhatesamerica.com/html/hurricanes.html
            Thats who they fucking protest, victims of Katrina.
            Victims of the Tsunami.
            DO you even know who the WBC are?

            Sheesh clickhappy... what a sick fucking website - even worse when it purports to be in the name of some religon.

            That shit is no better than a CP site. Why not give pedos their rights to protest outside schools and yell abusive shit at kids? They are only "expressing their rights of free speech".

            Sure are some really sick human specimens out there!
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            • clickhappy
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2004
              • 4027

              #56
              Originally posted by pr0
              More bullshit spitting evangalists...i understand 100%. Doesn't change the fact that they have to be allowed to say what they want....where they want, so long as its within their constitutional right.
              The ACLU isnt fighting for the right to say what they want, the current law allows that. They can say whatever they want from 300 feet away.

              The ACLU is fighting for the right for them to say what they want in the family members faces.
              The family members wont even be able to hear the funeral because a bunch of people are inthe background calling them pigs and telling them theire going to hell.

              Who cares about the family members, right? They dont deserve a peaceful funeral
              Last edited by clickhappy; 05-02-2006, 07:59 PM.

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              • Drake
                Hello world!
                • Mar 2003
                • 12508

                #57
                Originally posted by pr0
                There can't be exceptions to the rule. You just can't have it....its either constitutional or its not....period....there is no gray area.
                The constitution states that I should live with liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I think that my pursuit of happiness involves owning and stockpiling assault rifles. Excuse my terminology, but I believe these are the types of weapons that are illegal. Is this unconstitutional? If so, why can't I own them?

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                • Drake
                  Hello world!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 12508

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Webby
                  Why not give pedos their rights to protest outside schools and yell abusive shit at kids? They are only "expressing their rights of free speech".
                  Exactly, that's how ridiculous this could become all in the name of freedom of speech. Nobody would tolerate that.

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                  • broke
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 4501

                    #59
                    Originally posted by pr0
                    THEY aren't saying keep a distance..... A judge....in some courthouse somewhere, is saying keep a distance. And so long as a judge is passing a law....aclu members will be there to make sure its constitutional. And if it impedes, it will be fought.
                    You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
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                    • Webby
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 14956

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mike33
                      Exactly, that's how ridiculous this could become all in the name of freedom of speech. Nobody would tolerate that.
                      Shit.. just scanning thru this sicko shit ... Sheesh it's not often I get offended, but this is beyond a joke...

                      http://www.godhatesamerica.com/html/91101.html

                      http://www.godhatesamerica.com/html/Columbia.html

                      http://www.godhatessweden.com/

                      http://www.godhatescanada.com/

                      http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ghfmir/main/index.html

                      This racial, hate and hypocracy crap has nothing to do with "rights" in any way. Issues of "rights" are not even on the table - it's more and issue of pulling the shit down because of violations of the host TOS.

                      They are no better than neo-nazis, pedos and Klu Klux Klan trash..
                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                      • kane
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 20684

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Mike33
                        The constitution states that I should live with liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I think that my pursuit of happiness involves owning and stockpiling assault rifles. Excuse my terminology, but I believe these are the types of weapons that are illegal. Is this unconstitutional? If so, why can't I own them?
                        because there have been amendments and laws passed that don't allow you to have these things. this is basically what is going on here. The constitution gives you freedom of speech but there are laws/test cases that puts limits on free speech. For example there are FCC laws the limit what I can put on the public airwaves. The constituion gives me freedom of speech, the laws enacted limit where/what exactly I can say.

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                        • martinsc
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                          • Jun 2005
                          • 27043

                          #62
                          our world is just totally fucked up!
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                          • Splum
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2003
                            • 6195

                            #63
                            The ACLU are commies
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU
                            Founder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Nash_Baldwin

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                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                              best designer on GFY
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30307

                              #64
                              Just bring guns to the funeral. See how bad them freaks protest then.

                              I can see a court of law supporting the family shooting the protesters.

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                              • Sarah_Jayne
                                Now with more Jayne
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 40077

                                #65
                                Fred Phelps is my idea of evil on earth but free speech is free speech. I plan on exercising mine when he dies with my protests outside of his funeral.

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