I've sent messages/emails with no response. My sales have dropped to virtually nothing, and found out that your site isn't tracking my clicks. My traffic is awesome. What's going on?
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We are having the same problem with them, I have sent emails and contacted them via ICQ and not one reply.Originally posted by mrkrisComment
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Same here....lower click tracking, ono sales, it sucks....
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Looking for the previous 10 threads adressing this......
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Yeah. I was converting Oxpass at 1:5 to 1:10 give or take, and no it shows me as sending 4 clicks to it LAST PERIOD TOTAL, with no sales. Yeah, something is wrong.
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I have to agree something is up, My sales have dropped to almost 0 in the last 8 days, usually average 2-3 signups a day. something is wackedMarkyman
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I'm still trying to figure this out... 4 clicks in a period?Originally posted by mrkrisEvery Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
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sorry, i was wrong, 7 clicks to oxpass, last period. Total clicks to all sites last period: 223.Originally posted by BlingDaddy
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Gotcha... uniques? Or Raw? And shit... if you were doing 1:10 you should be a millionaire.Originally posted by mrkris
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same problem here. fuck bangbros. I'm dropping them entirelyComment
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Jordan said the 5000 uniques I sent didn't convert because it was "Spring Break". Guess I shoulda sent it elsewhere....Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
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Originally posted by BlingDaddyJordan said the 5000 uniques I sent didn't convert because it was "Spring Break". Guess I shoulda sent it elsewhere....
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Would they really fuck over affiliates this badly on purpose?Comment
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Lesson learned. I have thought about blocking BBO gallys from my sites, but... whatever.Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR Every Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
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why wouldn't they? They're big enough to not give a damn about smaller (>10sales/day) affiliates.Originally posted by SplumComment
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I think its safe to say after reading this thread and others that there is something seriously wrong over there.Comment
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Hmm my stats show 0 clicks.Comment
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Agreed -Originally posted by Franck
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I think it is safe to say they obviously don't give a shit...
If I had a gross income of over $20,000 a day I think I'd pay some 18yo fuck nut in college a grand sum of $65 a day just to check this forum before and after classes and let me know when I am missing something...
A free option? Well, there are several services that will let you know when bangbros is mentioned in a thread title... etc...
Really fucking rediculous... When I bitch about some programs like Twisty's I get an instant response from Shap... I bet he is getting an email about this thread 15 minutes after I post it.... Shap, can you show Bangbros how it is done?Comment
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I'm investing $xx,xxx in a few projects this week and I'm sure as shit not going to include a single BangBros site in the mix. Most likely not going to include Nasty Dollars/oxcash in it either since they're the same guys. There's plenty of other programs that will treat me/my sites like they deserve to be treated.Originally posted by V_RocKsComment
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should i take them out my sig?
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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oh boy.. that's the fastest way to loose money.. get your webmaster program get plastered all over the boards as a non paying/shaving sponsorComment
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BBros is like micro$oft. no matter how shitty they are, people won't ever stop using themOriginally posted by MarkManComment
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Agreed. Sad also.Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
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Millionaire? no. I didn't send them THAT much traffic, but if you ask Sperminator, the traffic I sent was highly targeted and converted like crazy.Originally posted by BlingDaddyGotcha... uniques? Or Raw? And shit... if you were doing 1:10 you should be a millionaire.
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yup. converted like he was giving the shit awayOriginally posted by mrkrisComment
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Weird. I'm 1:168 today so far and haven't had any problems except my ratio slipping last payperiod.i buy massive xxx dating traffic.Comment
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last period we sent 2204 clicks they recorded 783 Raws! 
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They're fucking cheating their balls off. I contacted them SEVERAL times about this, and they have IGNORED the threads. Sent an email to Jordan, AS REQUESTED in one of the threads, got NOTHING.
It's bullshit. You can't do anything about it, because they're a top sponsor -- you know the deal.Comment
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Here are the threads where I did my noob-bitching, and got no response (well, besides Jordan asking for an email, then ignoring it):
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=506619
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=591901
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=591900
My *original* contact was with Penn, which was *also* useless.
From pipecrew in the other thread: "oxcash has been paying everyweek for years. You either did not reach a minimum payment or you were terminated from the program for something.. Feel free to email me and i will look for it.. jordan at oxideas.com"
So, I sent the email, and said:
Carol sent me this in 2003:Hard to believe or not, it took 20+ phone calls and many emails to get no check, despite a promise from the brass over there.
We sent 800,000+ clicks. They claimed their billing solution didn't process our signups, despite the fact that the billing provider (epoch, at the time) showed signups and rebills, yet Ox Cash's system didn't. They showed $50 on 800,000 clicks; it was laughable.
We called, complained, got a promise to follow up, got an excuse about affiliates trying to cheat, got another promise, no check, another follow up, an excuse about having problems with Epoch, etc, etc, and then no check again. Nada to this date (almost a year later). I don't really care, to be honest. It was only 6 hours worth of traffic -- if our servers had been down for that period, it would have been the same net result. *shrug*
I've never heard of OxCash cheating ANYONE, so it really surprised me. It was probably only a few thousand dollars (well, not including rebills) so it's not really a big deal. I think they're 99% reputable, but the thread is about being cheated -- and we were.
I then called Penn. He said it'd be fixed. Nada. Next, I followed up again:----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <xxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism
> Hello,
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> I have passed your message over to Penn.
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> Thank you,
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative
Finally, I sent a kiss-off .. the explanation I posted was: "Here's the "kiss off" email to Penn, after sending over 800,000 clicks to the program, seeing people sign up on Epoch's side, and seeing nothing on OxCash's side. After this, the Epoch account was emptied (down to one signup showing, then to zero) and the OxCash account password was changed. Hopefully, this helps you get some perspective on the situation. We sent 820,000 clicks to the program, documented by their own system. *shrug* Penn had a decent explaination over the phone, though: apparently, a lot of affiliates will cheat clicks through, and then demand payment. Still, it sucked how we ended up not working with them going forward -- they converted thousands of signups for us (granted, we didn't get the money), which is an AWESOME ratio."I guess you didn't feel like following up any further?
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Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism
> Hello,
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> What is your affiliate id and password.
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> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative
And the kiss-off was (edited to make it shorter):
Still no response. Not to threads here, not to emails, I haven't (and won't) get shit.Penn,
I've left you numerous messages at this point, and I cannot continue to follow up with someone who is not going to return a phone call. You and I had an understanding that you were to contact me within a week concerning the underproductive nature of the traffic we sent you, or the misreporting of the stats, whichever the case may have been. I would have expected you to at least do the professional thing and return a phonecall. Compounding this issue, we sent 821,205 clicks in a short space of time, and even that didn't rate us a call back or an email.
Thanks anyway for the time you initally spent.
Just change your links to a program that cares.Comment
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drama evolving?Comment
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doubtfulComment
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working on that right nowOriginally posted by edgeprod
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Yup. I'm moving an entire site I had dedicated to BBO to someone else. Gotta decide who though.
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BTW, what's the point of having support if they don't answer their ICQ's. SUP JORDAN
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i jerked off on the phone with mrkris beforeCrypto HODLr
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haven't we all?Originally posted by kmanroxComment
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Originally posted by kmanrox
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Originally posted by mrkris
3 day holiday weekend maybe?Comment
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they have support?Originally posted by mrkris
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just checked my stats for the last period, nothing seems out of the ordinary for me.Comment
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The butts on the girls on their enter page are much to large ...
I had to throw in a negative also ...
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hell yeah , i sent 2200 uniqes, and got 0$ , the last month was like a big zero sales with themComment
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No offense, but that isn't enough traffic to know how their conversions are. 10 sales in a row could have been right around the corner.Originally posted by redfrog
I got $50 from 820,000 clicks. That's a better indicator. Especially since it turned around and did a 1:80 ratio with SexKey, TopBucks, etc. and did awesome with PPC like Sex.com, TopCash (when that existed for porn), and others. It's a bad example, though .. Epoch recorded TONS of sales on those clicks, but Bang Bros never showed it on their end. "We're working on this -- we've heard it from several people, and are trying to get a fix" was what I kept hearing over and over .. they even posted it in the "affiliate news" section.
Just remove their links and move on. They have enough webmasters, and make enough money -- they don't care about you, or anyone else, really.
Again -- no offense.Comment
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yeah something is up with bangbros, 2nd period of last month sucked goatassComment
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Now I know and knowing is half the battle.Originally posted by edgeprod
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Woah... Nasty Dollars is NOT the same guys... It is 1 guy and he split from the Bangbros to do his own program with his partner. They are run very differently. One spares no expense to keep shit tight and working and the other keeps trying to cut corners...Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToRComment
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Originally posted by edgeprod
sure 2200 uniqes is not an indicator , its just that the convertion retio is very bad on my side , espacialy for the last month , dropped by 80%Comment
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