Send back the illegals.every one of them
how can you stand for american values and be anti-immigration?
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Originally posted by sevenI dunno why but I have a feeling that he does understand english atleast better than you lol. If one doesn't care about just a certain group and speaks up against them over and again then by definition of racism makes him a racist. Therefore, I'm guessing you you'd like to be called a RACIST over anti-immigrant?
No, maybe you should check your english dictionary buddy.
http://www.answers.com/racism&r=67
He's not racist, he just has no sympathy for people breaking the law.
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Originally posted by DagwolfThe people on the Mayflower didn't have to go through INS. They didn't pass a citizenship test. They just moved in and took some land.
Yes, but the land back then was baren. There was no welfare, no scholarships, no social security, etc.
There was no real benefit to coming, compared to where they came from. There was only opportunity.
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Originally posted by KRLExactly. And in the process they also began the slaughter of the native American people that WERE here before us.
That's what pisses me off hearing people bitch about immigrants in today's world. All these people bitching seem to have forgotten how they came to be here.
I really could care less about the guys standing at home depot waiting for jobs to cut grass when we have real issues like the middle east to deal with.
This whole immigration thing was designed to distract and take the heat off the Iraq war dissatisfaction and everyone knows it.

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Sorry, but that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.Originally posted by DBS.USThe people on the Mayflower didn't come over and say give me free services, give me free money, I can't pay my rent so give me a free law services to get to stay free in my rented home. I don't have to follow the laws of the land. I don't need car insurance, I am a poor illegal immigrant.’Comment
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Free land is no real benefit?Originally posted by MrQYes, but the land back then was baren. There was no welfare, no scholarships, no social security, etc.
There was no real benefit to coming, compared to where they came from. There was only opportunity.
The presence of services ready to be used and (more importantly) ABUSED is why people have to pass tests and go through customs and INS.’Comment
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Land of the free meal
If we build a system based on greed and prosperity then we shouldn't be surprised when people in need take advantage of it.Originally posted by MrQYes, but the land back then was baren. There was no welfare, no scholarships, no social security, etc.
There was no real benefit to coming, compared to where they came from. There was only opportunity.
The presence of services ready to be used and (more importantly) ABUSED is why people have to pass tests and go through customs and INS.ICQ-307696001 kingfisher.kj [at] gmail.comComment
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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
LOL, your point is that I or anyone else in this country OWES them something just because they exist and they have less? Fuck you. I owe them nothing and they will get nothing from me.Ahhh, there it is. That little gem that I knew you'd give up at some point. Now you're showing your true colors escorpia.Originally posted by escorpioThen it will be taken from you.
You think that everyone else owes them something and you don't care what they have to do to obtain it. You have no respect for civilized behaviour at all.
"Then it will be taken from you."
No, I assure you it won't. I and many others like me would have no problem defending our liberties and our property, our prosperity and our opportunities, by whatever means are necessary without a moment's hesitation.
Now we know who you are - you've shown yourself - a common thief with no honor and no respect. Someone who supports others who are the same. Someone who simply doesn't get the idea of civilization and who shouldn't be treated as though he does.
You can try to wrap this up in a shroud of fake cultural pride and fake pleas for generousity but you're not going to fool anyone any longer.
If generousity fails you, you support theft.
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You've shown yourself for what you are. A greedy pig with no regard for others. When I say "it will be taken from you" I am only stating a fact, not making a threat or giving my approval for what happens to pigs. Read your history. Look around you. Your cushy existance is a lot more precarious than you think.Originally posted by AmateurFlixAhhh, there it is. That little gem that I knew you'd give up at some point. Now you're showing your true colors escorpia.
You think that everyone else owes them something and you don't care what they have to do to obtain it. You have no respect for civilized behaviour at all.
"Then it will be taken from you."
No, I assure you it won't. I and many others like me would have no problem defending our liberties and our property, our prosperity and our opportunities, by whatever means are necessary without a moment's hesitation.
Now we know who you are - you've shown yourself - a common thief with no honor and no respect. Someone who supports others who are the same. Someone who simply doesn't get the idea of civilization and who shouldn't be treated as though he does.
You can try to wrap this up in a shroud of fake cultural pride and fake pleas for generousity but you're not going to fool anyone any longer.
If generousity fails you, you support theft.
Your big bad hardass "fuck you, they'll get nothing from me" attitude is going to get you fucked.
"escorpia" is not a word, dumbfuck.
Learn some Spanish, you're going to need it.
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You call yourself civilized while women and children go hungry? While people die trying to make a better life for themselves? You're nothing but a fat American pig that takes pride in his heartlessness. You make me want to vomit.Originally posted by AmateurFlixSomeone who simply doesn't get the idea of civilization and who shouldn't be treated as though he does.
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Originally posted by Mike33This issue is huge and the truth seems to be that, short of murdering people who illegally enter thru Mexico or a complete social and economic evolution within Mexico, the future will only see more illegal immigration.
The solutions put forth are short term and really don't solve the problem. Guest worker programs and amnesty will do nothing to stop the flow of illegal immigration from Mexico. Making the process for obtaining legal immigration easier will not stop the flow of illegal immigration either. So long as the enormous disparity between the two nations exist, people will risk everything to come over. We don't see this happen between Canada and the US because both countries offer so much to their own citizens (in the way of freedoms, opportunity, etc) so their is little necessity to risk life and limb to live illegally in either of the two countries when you already have citizenship in one of them. Whenever you have drastic economic and social differences in neighboring nations, you'll find people trying to escape into the better country.
I'm not up on my history and the hows and whys of how things came to be this way but it is this way. It seems to be me there is only two possibilities for the future. One is that large parts of current day America will become essentially extensions of Mexico (California already is?). The other possibility is that their will be a revolution in Mexico, perhaps with the assistence of the US, that will bring Mexico into the realm of a first world nation. When that happens, illegally immigration would be a issue of the past.
So I guess we should want to see more of this: 1) opening of equitable trade and industry between the two nations 2) pressure from Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, and the US on the Mexican government for reforms and to eliminate the corruption that goes on within it.
These suggestions may seem outlandish and may be we are nowhere near implementing such steps but I don't see this issue going away without them. Either the US becomes hugely Mexican-ized (and some may argue there is no problem in this at all - this is how nations evolve), or the US remains pretty much as it is with a re-invented Mexico to its south.
agreed 100%. No amount of crying, bitching or minuteman projects will ever stop them from coming in until Mexico has a better economy.. sad but true
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totally agree if everyone is so anti immigration lets just return the statue of liberty to Gustaf Eiffel stop being so narrow minded incase you didnt know people like Einstein were actually immigrants into the United StatesOriginally posted by candyflipGive me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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Sounds about right.Originally posted by GotGaugeMR. PRESIDENT, I'M HEADED TO MEXICO
Dear President Bush:
I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I
would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the
border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I
know you can help with this.
I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas
and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do
here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm
on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the
following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need,
whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag
pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to
government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to
learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from
Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police
officers speak English.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my
car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any
complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't
enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never
say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on
the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for
all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that
Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if
he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail
hunting with your V.P.
Thank you so much for your kind help.
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Yeah you can overthrow whole nations and setup revolutionary Governments in hostile parts of the world, but you can't stop people from crossing your border. God America is destined to be a cesspool, it's almost amazing how a nation with such material wealth can have such a vast lack of intelligence.Originally posted by seven
agreed 100%. No amount of crying, bitching or minuteman projects will ever stop them from coming in until Mexico has a better economy.. sad but true
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Nonsense, ask anyone who deals with me, I am fair and straightforward in my dealings. When someone has something or some opportunity that can benefit both parties mutually I act with respect and care.Originally posted by escorpioYou've shown yourself for what you are. A greedy pig with no regard for others.
What you are proposing is that simply because one person has more than someone else they are obligated to give something away to the other. That is not how productive people (or societies for that matter) behave. It would mean not having that 'regard' for the person who happens to have already acquired what you want.
Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
LOL, your point is that I or anyone else in this country OWES them something just because they exist and they have less? Fuck you. I owe them nothing and they will get nothing from me.Bull shit, you can try to backpeddle all you want, you're not fooling anyone now after reading the above. You support theft.Originally Posted by escorpio
Then it will be taken from you.
Escorpia is your new name, get used to it. Maybe if you get in touch with your feminine side you'll learn something about how civilized people conduct themselves with one another, namely that theft and activities tantamount to extortion are not acceptable."escorpia" is not a word, dumbfuck.
Learn some Spanish, you're going to need it.
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You don't have to give away any of your pie. Just the opportunity to work for a piece of it.Originally posted by AmateurFlixNonsense, ask anyone who deals with me, I am fair and straightforward in my dealings. When someone has something or some opportunity that can benefit both parties mutually I act with respect and care.
What you are proposing is that simply because one person has more than someone else they are obligated to give something away to the other. That is not how productive people (or societies for that matter) behave. It would mean not having that 'regard' for the person who happens to have already acquired what you want.
I support compassion. You support gluttony. Pigs get slaughtered. It's a fact.Originally posted by AmateurFlixBull shit, you can try to backpeddle all you want, you're not fooling anyone now after reading the above. You support theft.
If you had the balls to say this to my face I'd make you shit teeth.Originally posted by AmateurFlixEscorpia is your new name, get used to it. Maybe if you get in touch with your feminine side you'll learn something about how civilized people conduct themselves with one another, namely that theft and activities tantamount to extortion are not acceptable.Unvaxxed, still alive.Comment
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I don't have to give away any of it, or the opportunities of law abiding citizens, or the opportunities for legal immigrants. They all deserve the opportunities first. The rest can get in line and wait their turn like everyone else has before them.Originally posted by escorpioYou don't have to give away any of your pie. Just the opportunity to work for a piece of it.
You support theft and try to hide behind some feel good nonsense about compassion when you're not busy yelling 'racist' or 'xenophobe'. You say anything that you think might get you your way. Your kind always ends up losing, because your type is a loser. That's cold hard reality slapping you in the face.I support compassion. You support gluttony. Pigs get slaughtered. It's a fact.
Escorpia, the little keyboard warrior, showing your true colors again. Someday if you try real hard you might learn how civilized people behave with one another. Then maybe, just maybe escorpia you might learn what it is to be a man.If you had the balls to say this to my face I'd make you shit teeth.Last edited by AmateurFlix; 05-01-2006, 07:41 AM.
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So judging from your posts I take it you're very in touch with your feminine side, bitch.Originally posted by AmateurFlixMaybe if you get in touch with your feminine side you'll learn something about how civilized people conduct themselves with one another, namely that theft and activities tantamount to extortion are not acceptable.
If I ever meet you I'll help you get even more it touch by beating the teeth out of your head then skull fucking your cock hungry face.
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Ah, so you also want to put your dick inside of another man. Now your problem is becoming clearer.Originally posted by escorpioIf I ever meet you I'll help you get even more it touch by beating the teeth out of your head then skull fucking your cock hungry face.
You can blame the nasty gringos all you want for your own problems escorpia, but it lies within yourself.
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Looks like you're the one that's lost this battle. You're just to stupid to know it yet.Originally posted by AmateurFlixYou support theft and try to hide behind some feel good nonsense about compassion when you're not busy yelling 'racist' or 'xenophobe'. You say anything that you think might get you your way. Your kind always ends up losing, because your type is a loser. That's cold hard reality slapping you in the face.

You're the keyboard warrior, talking shit on the internet you would NEVER say to my face. Look my up when you come down to the border with your Minutemen friends. Pussy.Originally posted by AmateurFlixEscorpia, the little keyboard warrior, showing your true colors again. Someday if you try real hard you might learn how civilized people behave with one another. Then maybe, just maybe escorpia you might learn what it is to be a man.
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You're not a man. A real man doesn't say shit on the keyboard he wouldn't say to man's face.Originally posted by AmateurFlixAh, so you also want to put your dick inside of another man. Now your problem is becoming clearer.
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You said that you want to engage in homosexual sex.Originally posted by escorpioYou're not a man. A real man doesn't say shit on the keyboard he wouldn't say to man's face.
Now you are trying to tell me that I am not a man

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Homosexual rape is a great way to let a bitch know he's a bitch. Trick I learned in prison.Originally posted by AmateurFlixYou said that you want to engage in homosexual sex.
Now you are trying to tell me that I am not a man
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LOLOriginally posted by escorpioHomosexual rape is a great way to let a bitch know he's a bitch. Trick I learned in prison.
It sounds like you learned it the hard way, by being on the receiving end
I said before that if you tried real hard, someday you might learn what it is like to be civilized, and to be a man. I was wrong, you will never know these things.
Keep up the good work dipshit, I'm sure you've won yourself a ton of supporters in this thread

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O.K., I'm getting a little mouthy with this punk ass bitch and confusing the issue and my stance so let me break it down...Originally posted by PR_Tomescorpio, what are you talking about? Illegal immigration? Immigration? Or a war on the american southwest?
I'm confused
I am against illegal immigration, but I understand why it is happening and that nothing can stop it as long as such wide economic disparity exists between two neighboring countries. I support laws making it easier for guest workers to enter the U.S.A. legally and amnesty for those already here.Unvaxxed, still alive.Comment
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Originally posted by AmateurFlixExactly. The problem is that the laws do not provide punishment commensurate to the crimes that are being committed.
What is being discussed by our government is turning these into felony offenses so that the violators would not be treated so kindly. The laws and the consequences of breaking these laws are not effective against these people. When most visitors come to the USA they behave as most visitors do when travelling to any foreign country. They are grateful for being received and abide by the laws of the country they enter.
These people do not.
Therefore they need to be dealt with more severely.
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Originally posted by AmateurFlixLOL
I said before that if you tried real hard, someday you might learn what it is like to be civilized, and to be a man. I was wrong, you will never know these things.
Says the in touch with his feminine side shit talking keyboard warrior.
I don't need supporters in a stupid internet thread. You think you've furthered your cause talking shit on a message board?Originally posted by AmateurFlixKeep up the good work dipshit, I'm sure you've won yourself a ton of supporters in this thread
When do you plan on coming down and defending your border with the Minutemen? Don't forget your XXXXL camoflage t-shirt.
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Sure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.Originally posted by CristieAny suggestions?
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What would you suggest as a solution?Originally posted by ChiefYeah you can overthrow whole nations and setup revolutionary Governments in hostile parts of the world, but you can't stop people from crossing your border. God America is destined to be a cesspool, it's almost amazing how a nation with such material wealth can have such a vast lack of intelligence.Comment
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Yes, building and maintaining a 2,000 mile long impenetrable wall is a simple undertaking to those with simple minds.Originally posted by AmateurFlixSure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.Unvaxxed, still alive.Comment
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Yeah tell me about it. Instead of spending a trillion dollars in a fruitless country Iraq we could spend it on Mexico to better their lives and kill the need for illegal immigration but hey! who cares about illegals lets spend another few trillions on Iran instead. Fuck mexicans lets free Iranians!Originally posted by ChiefYeah you can overthrow whole nations and setup revolutionary Governments in hostile parts of the world, but you can't stop people from crossing your border. God America is destined to be a cesspool, it's almost amazing how a nation with such material wealth can have such a vast lack of intelligence.
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Ok I haven't said a word about this so hear it goes......my great grand parents came over here on the boat to Ellis Island. They came from Italy and didn't speak English but they sure as hell learned and made this country better. He ran the town store and was the the mayor of a small town called Roseto PA. If it wasn't for him most of the people would have starved during the depression. They also became LEAGAL immigrants.
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Good for them. Much respect.Originally posted by TurboAngelOk I haven't said a word about this so hear it goes......my great grand parents came over here on the boat to Ellis Island. They came from Italy and didn't speak English but they sure as hell learned and made this country better. He ran the town store and was the the mayor of a small town called Roseto PA. If it wasn't for him most of the people would have starved during the depression. They also became LEAGAL immigrants.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Roseto-Pennsylvania.html
How do you feel about allowing others the opportunity that was granted your great-grandparents?Unvaxxed, still alive.Comment
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hehe, you can think whatever you want of me or imagine me an easy target or something if that settles your little mind... if you saw me in person, you'd likely have a very different opinion though, I'm not really somone you'd probably want to tangle with. I'm not one to threaten people over the internet, so I'll just leave it at that.Originally posted by escorpio
Says the in touch with his feminine side shit talking keyboard warrior.
Well you're the one that keeps bringing this stuff up on a message board, so if you did not mention it for support of your cause then for what? I've exposed you for what you are here, do you think your opinions will be taken seriously by anyone who has read this now? Do you think people reading this will take others who share your view with the same consideration as before now?I don't need supporters in a stupid internet thread. You think you've furthered your cause talking shit on a message board?
I'm done with you now.

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You are not following the news are you? gov is not trying to pass it anymore. senate bill doesn't include that at all.. too bad for people who wants running redlights be turned into felony crimesOriginally posted by AmateurFlixSure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.
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I watched the news this morning. The same laws are being drafted up again in a new proposal. This time they'll probably have more support due to the 'mexicans not working and being truant' dayOriginally posted by sevenYou are not following the news are you? gov is not trying to pass it anymore. senate bill doesn't include that at all.. too bad for people who wants running redlights be turned into felony crimes


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The wall may be an efficient action, but it sounds really funny to me.
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Got any URL where I could get updated on that issue? I'm watching news as i'm posting here no mention of any suchOriginally posted by AmateurFlixI watched the news this morning. The same laws are being drafted up again in a new proposal. This time they'll probably have more support due to the 'mexicans not working and being truant' day
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it was on cnbc on the television broadcast. I don't have an url for it.Originally posted by sevenGot any URL where I could get updated on that issue? I'm watching news as i'm posting here no mention of any such

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I could say the same thing.Originally posted by AmateurFlixhehe, you can think whatever you want of me or imagine me an easy target or something if that settles your little mind... if you saw me in person, you'd likely have a very different opinion though, I'm not really somone you'd probably want to tangle with. I'm not one to threaten people over the internet, so I'll just leave it at that.
Don't need GFY support. Tengo La Raza en mi lado, baby!Originally posted by AmateurFlixWell you're the one that keeps bringing this stuff up on a message board, so if you did not mention it for support of your cause then for what? I've exposed you for what you are here, do you think your opinions will be taken seriously by anyone who has read this now? Do you think people reading this will take others who share your view with the same consideration as before now?
Good. Our discussion has degraded into name calling and that's something better done face to face. Let me know when you in the border region of Arizona and we can pick it up then. You ARE going to come down and help out with the defense of the border, right? Or are you just a keyboard warrior?Originally posted by AmateurFlixI'm done with you now.
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I cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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Government should work on the legislation. No doubt.Originally posted by PR_TomI cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.Comment
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I can respect that. No matter what the change, change is necessary.Originally posted by PR_TomI cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.
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The same problem is in Europe.
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For Mexicans only or for all people that wish to emigrate to America?Originally posted by PR_TomI cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.Comment


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