So about this IceMaster person.....(yep...more drama)
IceMaster is a complete tool. I was having a bad feeling about a deal we were doing so I wrote this to Donny...
[09:57] AaronM: I'm getting a sonofsam feeling from this guy. I'm considering not selling him the sets because of it.
What are your thoughts?
Then I sent him part of the conversation that you will see below. This was his reply:
[09:59] DonovanPhillips: Sounds like potential trouble, but maybe just being cautious
[09:59] AaronM: I was cautious with SOS.
[09:59] AaronM: Here was my response.
[09:31] *** NOTE: This user is offline. Your messages will be received when he/she logs into ICQ.
[09:34] AaronM: The sets are ready now. How do you know when they were shot? Well...first off, does that really matter as long as they are the exclusive sets that you ordered?
Every file has a creation date so you can check that. Also, the model had to sign a release for that shoot and the release has yesterday's date on it. Finally, the 2257 paperwork that I send you also shows the set names and dates of production.
This is a brand new studio. Yesterday was the first day I have even shot here so I couldn't have shot these at any other time with these surroundings.
I shoot for some of the biggest teen websites and magazines in the world and give them what they want when they want it. Same goes for you.
[10:04] DonovanPhillips: is he new or something?
[10:08] AaronM: Fuck if I know.
So....WTF is this all about?
Well, IceMaster liked a girl I posted in hos thread the other day where he was looking for teen content. I had some spare time to work with the girl for him so we made the deal. No biggie since there was no extra money out of my pocket, there was zero risk to me and I will easily sell these sets but here's how this one went.
THIS IS WHY I USUALLY STEER CLEAR OF DOING BUSNESS WITH PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW. I MADE AN EXCEPTION TO TRY TO HELP THIS GUY OUT AND AS USUAL, IT BACKFIRED.
AaronM: Hey, it's AaronM. I have to go pick up a model but maybe you will be here when I get back.
IceMaster - Sid: hi
IceMaster - Sid: how much would cost me get an exclusive girl? if you shoot the content?
IceMaster - Sid: i dont know too much about exclusive content, i would be the only one who will get the set you shoot or everything from that model? i mean she would be working for me but you would shoot her?
AaronM: An exclusive girl is going to cost you 50k+ but exclusive content I shoot for $250.00 per set.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: and how do i choose the model? is there any difference between custom and exclusive?
AaronM: The girl that you liked...I just dropped her off to get a manicure and pedicure and we start shooting in about 30 minutes.
AaronM: Custom and exclusive are pretty much the same thing but sometimes, custom has certain requests that may add to the cost of the shoot.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and how do you work? 50% first or 100%?
AaronM: Always 100%
AaronM: Are you in the US?
IceMaster - Sid: no
IceMaster - Sid: would be a problem?
AaronM: No, not at all. I was going to ask you to call me if you were here.
ok. The model just called. Her nails are done and I need to go pick her up.
AaronM: Will you still be online in 30 to 60 minutes?
IceMaster - Sid: i dont have the enough money in my epass now, so i cant pay you, when will you shot her again?
AaronM: I don't take ePass. And I am not scheduled to shoot her again any time soon but I do have other girls I work with. I'm actually booked up for the next few months but every once in awhile, like today, I have a little extra time where I can fit in a few extra sets here and there.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and what do you accept as payment?
AaronM: I do take Visa and MasterCard though.
AaronM: Also, wire transfers and cashiers checks if they are in US funds.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
AaronM: Lets do this....I'm shooting her anyway. Assuming that I have the time, I can take some sets for you since she is already being paid for the shoot today....We can take care of payment later, before I send the content.
IceMaster - Sid: ok, how much would me everything?
IceMaster - Sid: cost me*
AaronM: How many sets would you like?
AaronM: Most of my clients order between 3 and 10 sets but it's up to you since I am not scheduling a shoot with her specifically for you.
IceMaster - Sid: as i dont really know how this works, i guess that 2 would be enough to start, what do you think?
AaronM: If I booked her for a day for you then I would require at least 4 sets.
2 sets will work out fine for today. ;)
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and the pics will look like these? i mean the quality and all those things
IceMaster - Sid: ampcontent.com
AaronM: Yep.
IceMaster - Sid: then your a genius and it worth the 250$
AaronM: lol
AaronM: OK then...I will go ahead and shoot the 2 sets for you if there is time and we can take care of the payment stuff later.
I gotta go pick her up. Chat with you later.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: cya
AaronM: bye
IceMaster - Sid: i must leave now, cya later, and thanks.
IceMaster - Sid: hi, i guess that you didnt have the time for my sets, when you will have time?
AaronM: What makes you think I didn't have time?
IceMaster - Sid: as i didnt got an answer :P
AaronM: An answer? What was the question?
IceMaster - Sid: ...
AaronM: I've shot 2 sets for you and I am shooting another girl right now.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: i guess that you are shooting now, so i will leave you some questions, do you do videos too? and how much do they cost?
AaronM: Videos are the same price. $250 for 10 minute solo exclusive video.
AaronM: I shoot it and send you the tape. I can also edit and encode for $300 per video.
Sid: damn, if i would know that one day ago...
IceMaster - Sid: when do you think the sets will be ready? and how do i know that they were shot yesterday? i mean you could sell me something you already had.
AaronM: The sets are ready now. How do you know when they were shot? Well...first off, does that really matter as long as they are the exclusive sets that you ordered?
Every file has a creation date so you can check that. Also, the model had to sign a release for that shoot and the release has yesterday's date on it. Finally, the 2257 paperwork that I send you also shows the set names and dates of production.
This is a brand new studio. Yesterday was the first day I have even shot here so I couldn't have shot these at any other time with these surroundings.
I shoot for some of the biggest teen websites and magazines in the world and give them what they want when they want it. Same goes for you.
AaronM: And here are 4 samples from each of the 2 sets I shot for you.
I promise 70 to 100 photos per set but shoot more like 150+ just to be safe. There will be shots where the models blink or just look bad but I send you all of them and let you decide for yourself.
http://www.ampcontent.com/Clients/IceMaster/
IceMaster - Sid: Wtf, this isnt even what i expect to get, the first set is in ampcontent and the second i remember seeying in gfy. Sorry but i wont pay for that. Really strange you didnt want the 100% in advantage you ask to everyone... where you trying to do to me the same you did to sonofsam? Sorry but you wont do the same with me. Bye.
AaronM: Huh?
AaronM: LOL......I had a feeling you were a complete idiot.
[09:57] AaronM: I'm getting a sonofsam feeling from this guy. I'm considering not selling him the sets because of it.
What are your thoughts?
Then I sent him part of the conversation that you will see below. This was his reply:
[09:59] DonovanPhillips: Sounds like potential trouble, but maybe just being cautious
[09:59] AaronM: I was cautious with SOS.
[09:59] AaronM: Here was my response.
[09:31] *** NOTE: This user is offline. Your messages will be received when he/she logs into ICQ.
[09:34] AaronM: The sets are ready now. How do you know when they were shot? Well...first off, does that really matter as long as they are the exclusive sets that you ordered?
Every file has a creation date so you can check that. Also, the model had to sign a release for that shoot and the release has yesterday's date on it. Finally, the 2257 paperwork that I send you also shows the set names and dates of production.
This is a brand new studio. Yesterday was the first day I have even shot here so I couldn't have shot these at any other time with these surroundings.
I shoot for some of the biggest teen websites and magazines in the world and give them what they want when they want it. Same goes for you.
[10:04] DonovanPhillips: is he new or something?
[10:08] AaronM: Fuck if I know.
So....WTF is this all about?
Well, IceMaster liked a girl I posted in hos thread the other day where he was looking for teen content. I had some spare time to work with the girl for him so we made the deal. No biggie since there was no extra money out of my pocket, there was zero risk to me and I will easily sell these sets but here's how this one went.
THIS IS WHY I USUALLY STEER CLEAR OF DOING BUSNESS WITH PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW. I MADE AN EXCEPTION TO TRY TO HELP THIS GUY OUT AND AS USUAL, IT BACKFIRED.
AaronM: Hey, it's AaronM. I have to go pick up a model but maybe you will be here when I get back.
IceMaster - Sid: hi
IceMaster - Sid: how much would cost me get an exclusive girl? if you shoot the content?
IceMaster - Sid: i dont know too much about exclusive content, i would be the only one who will get the set you shoot or everything from that model? i mean she would be working for me but you would shoot her?
AaronM: An exclusive girl is going to cost you 50k+ but exclusive content I shoot for $250.00 per set.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: and how do i choose the model? is there any difference between custom and exclusive?
AaronM: The girl that you liked...I just dropped her off to get a manicure and pedicure and we start shooting in about 30 minutes.
AaronM: Custom and exclusive are pretty much the same thing but sometimes, custom has certain requests that may add to the cost of the shoot.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and how do you work? 50% first or 100%?
AaronM: Always 100%
AaronM: Are you in the US?
IceMaster - Sid: no
IceMaster - Sid: would be a problem?
AaronM: No, not at all. I was going to ask you to call me if you were here.
ok. The model just called. Her nails are done and I need to go pick her up.
AaronM: Will you still be online in 30 to 60 minutes?
IceMaster - Sid: i dont have the enough money in my epass now, so i cant pay you, when will you shot her again?
AaronM: I don't take ePass. And I am not scheduled to shoot her again any time soon but I do have other girls I work with. I'm actually booked up for the next few months but every once in awhile, like today, I have a little extra time where I can fit in a few extra sets here and there.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and what do you accept as payment?
AaronM: I do take Visa and MasterCard though.
AaronM: Also, wire transfers and cashiers checks if they are in US funds.
IceMaster - Sid: i see
AaronM: Lets do this....I'm shooting her anyway. Assuming that I have the time, I can take some sets for you since she is already being paid for the shoot today....We can take care of payment later, before I send the content.
IceMaster - Sid: ok, how much would me everything?
IceMaster - Sid: cost me*
AaronM: How many sets would you like?
AaronM: Most of my clients order between 3 and 10 sets but it's up to you since I am not scheduling a shoot with her specifically for you.
IceMaster - Sid: as i dont really know how this works, i guess that 2 would be enough to start, what do you think?
AaronM: If I booked her for a day for you then I would require at least 4 sets.
2 sets will work out fine for today. ;)
IceMaster - Sid: i see
IceMaster - Sid: and the pics will look like these? i mean the quality and all those things
IceMaster - Sid: ampcontent.com
AaronM: Yep.
IceMaster - Sid: then your a genius and it worth the 250$
AaronM: lol
AaronM: OK then...I will go ahead and shoot the 2 sets for you if there is time and we can take care of the payment stuff later.
I gotta go pick her up. Chat with you later.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: cya
AaronM: bye
IceMaster - Sid: i must leave now, cya later, and thanks.
IceMaster - Sid: hi, i guess that you didnt have the time for my sets, when you will have time?
AaronM: What makes you think I didn't have time?
IceMaster - Sid: as i didnt got an answer :P
AaronM: An answer? What was the question?
IceMaster - Sid: ...
AaronM: I've shot 2 sets for you and I am shooting another girl right now.
IceMaster - Sid: ok
IceMaster - Sid: i guess that you are shooting now, so i will leave you some questions, do you do videos too? and how much do they cost?
AaronM: Videos are the same price. $250 for 10 minute solo exclusive video.
AaronM: I shoot it and send you the tape. I can also edit and encode for $300 per video.
Sid: damn, if i would know that one day ago...
IceMaster - Sid: when do you think the sets will be ready? and how do i know that they were shot yesterday? i mean you could sell me something you already had.
AaronM: The sets are ready now. How do you know when they were shot? Well...first off, does that really matter as long as they are the exclusive sets that you ordered?
Every file has a creation date so you can check that. Also, the model had to sign a release for that shoot and the release has yesterday's date on it. Finally, the 2257 paperwork that I send you also shows the set names and dates of production.
This is a brand new studio. Yesterday was the first day I have even shot here so I couldn't have shot these at any other time with these surroundings.
I shoot for some of the biggest teen websites and magazines in the world and give them what they want when they want it. Same goes for you.
AaronM: And here are 4 samples from each of the 2 sets I shot for you.
I promise 70 to 100 photos per set but shoot more like 150+ just to be safe. There will be shots where the models blink or just look bad but I send you all of them and let you decide for yourself.
http://www.ampcontent.com/Clients/IceMaster/
IceMaster - Sid: Wtf, this isnt even what i expect to get, the first set is in ampcontent and the second i remember seeying in gfy. Sorry but i wont pay for that. Really strange you didnt want the 100% in advantage you ask to everyone... where you trying to do to me the same you did to sonofsam? Sorry but you wont do the same with me. Bye.
AaronM: Huh?
AaronM: LOL......I had a feeling you were a complete idiot.
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