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  • corvette
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 7880
    #1

    True h.264 Adobe Flash 3.0 Streaming released

    the latest and greatest in streaming + theft protection, was released a few weeks ago. anyone have any experience with it?


    Adobe Flash 3 supports H.264 video encryption, also known as MPEG-4 Part 10, or MPEG-4Advanced Video Coding, the latest standard for True High Definition Streaming. H.264 compresses video much more effectively than older standards and at substantially lower bit rates by using multi-picture inter-picture prediction, variable block-size motion compensation, quarter-pixel precision, and other technologies to encode video with approximately 3 times fewer bits than comparable MPEG-2 encoders.

    To address the growing security concerns over content theft and ?Tube? site publishing, Adobe Flash 3 supports Encrypted RTMP streaming, which helps prevent stream ripping software from copying the file to offline locations. Additional features include FMS 3, known as SWF hashing (verification) by which a signature of the SWF file is created and used by the FMS server to ensure that the stream can only be deployed within the signed SWF file. This form of stream protection is very difficult for any stream ripping software to penetrate.
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    • teg0
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      • Jan 2006
      • 4204
      #2
      In other words, let the cracking begin

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        • stickyfingerz
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          • Oct 2005
          • 24984
          #3
          Big thumbs up on this. It is a beautiful thing. Glad to be in on the beta Mark!

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            • mikesouth
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              • Jun 2003
              • 6334
              #4
              Now this is interesting I have a 3 chip avchd camera and the quality is unreal. high quality HD comes in about 1.3GB/30 mins

              Id like to play around with this, comcast is saying 32megabit/s will be available to all customer by mid 2009, FIOs is here now....this is the future.
              Mike South

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                • dready
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 5247
                  #5
                  H.264 is the new video standard.
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                    • Brad Gosse
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 2616
                      #6
                      We have been encoding h.264 for a few years now, it's the best looking video at the smallest sizes.
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                        • webmasterchecks
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                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1685
                          #7
                          This has been one of the most promising technologies to discourage the theft of content to date.

                          Its where content providers are going to have to concentrate on now, before it gets on a tube site and gets replicated to dozens of other sites.

                          Glad its finally out
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                            • Catalyst
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                              • Jun 2003
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                              #8
                              yea.. but doesn't it have to load all the way before flash start playing it.. I couldn't get an mp4 to start streaming right away.

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                                • stickyfingerz
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                                  • Oct 2005
                                  • 24984
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Catalyst
                                  yea.. but doesn't it have to load all the way before flash start playing it.. I couldn't get an mp4 to start streaming right away.
                                  No. The reason is the Atom Moov meta tag is set at the end of the video. You have to change that. Be glad to show you how to do that Rich if you need.

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                                    • whatif_3
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                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 459
                                      #10
                                      whats the difference? does anyone have any examples?

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                                        • DirtyDanza
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 8375
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by mikesouth
                                          Now this is interesting I have a 3 chip avchd camera and the quality is unreal. high quality HD comes in about 1.3GB/30 mins

                                          Id like to play around with this, comcast is saying 32megabit/s will be available to all customer by mid 2009, FIOs is here now....this is the future.
                                          how are you compressing..


                                          our true HD is like 2 gig per 7 min on file size...

                                          and then it just go's up there in size depending if we capture in prores422 or not...

                                          we shoot HDV and RED though... I never liked the avchd for some reason.. but I know lots say that about HDV and for some reason I LOVE hdv.....
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                                            • DirtyDanza
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                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 8375
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                              No. The reason is the Atom Moov meta tag is set at the end of the video. You have to change that. Be glad to show you how to do that Rich if you need.
                                              your going to need to get a mac back if you want to hang with the big boys on HD dood hate to have to say
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                                                • seeric
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                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 41917
                                                  #13
                                                  anything that can be seen on a screen can be ripped. easily. show me one of these files and i will show you a wmv in no time at all. none.

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                                                    • DWB
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                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 31779
                                                      #14
                                                      what the guy above me said....

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                                                        • webmasterchecks
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                                                          #15
                                                          never mind
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                                                            • BrianL
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                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                              • 50
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                                                              This has been one of the most promising technologies to discourage the theft of content to date.

                                                              Its where content providers are going to have to concentrate on now, before it gets on a tube site and gets replicated to dozens of other sites.

                                                              Glad its finally out
                                                              We are going to be rolling out some demo clips in the next week before Webmaster East. The Quality of the streams is impressive, and we can do live or on demand.

                                                              The process to do Encrypted streams as well as SWF validation is going to be a relatively simple one from our end, this will be the closest thing to a true DRM you are going to be able to get as a full service offering for a while. Adobe and Level 3 have done a lot of work together and some big name players in non adult have signed on to being anchor tenants on the service.

                                                              We also are very close to working out the details of a service which will do all the encoding for you to h.264 as it can be tricky and converting a decent sized library is no small task.
                                                              Brian L
                                                              Cave Creek Streaming and CDN
                                                              ICQ - 6124460
                                                              [email protected]

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                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                  • 24984
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by DirtyDanza
                                                                  your going to need to get a mac back if you want to hang with the big boys on HD dood hate to have to say
                                                                  What does Mac have to do with that exactly? I know how to get a h.264 mp4 to play right away with out preloading first and I can do it on a GASP PC.

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                                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                                      Doin fine
                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                      • 24984
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                      anything that can be seen on a screen can be ripped. easily. show me one of these files and i will show you a wmv in no time at all. none.
                                                                      Yup and I can show you how to make a really great pie. It only takes me 3 hours or so and requires me to make the crust, and pie filling and bake it etc, eh fuck it Ill just go pay the bakery 8 bucks and save the 3 hours.. See If you think they are getting the same quality with a screen capture program I kind of doubt it.

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                                                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                          • 24984
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                          anything that can be seen on a screen can be ripped. easily. show me one of these files and i will show you a wmv in no time at all. none.
                                                                          Btw a simple thing that can be done is when encoding for h.264 use a different watermark than what you normally do for your other content. I bet you see very little of it on tubesites or on torrentsites.

                                                                          I bet that less than 15% of the ripped off content out there came using a screen capture setup. IF that.

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                                                                            • KellyKayne
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                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 199
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Anyone want to convert a bunch of videos for me?

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                                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                  • 24984
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by KellyKayne
                                                                                  Anyone want to convert a bunch of videos for me?
                                                                                  Hit up Bryan L he has a 3rd party that is doing this correctly that he can hook you up with I believe.

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                                                                                    • DirtyDanza
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                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 8375
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by KellyKayne
                                                                                      Anyone want to convert a bunch of videos for me?
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                                                                                        • Bossman
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                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                          • 1263
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Next week we will have 2 members areas changing from wmv to h264 streaming - looking forward to the change
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                                                                                            • mikesouth
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                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 6334
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by DirtyDanza
                                                                                              how are you compressing..


                                                                                              our true HD is like 2 gig per 7 min on file size...

                                                                                              and then it just go's up there in size depending if we capture in prores422 or not...

                                                                                              we shoot HDV and RED though... I never liked the avchd for some reason.. but I know lots say that about HDV and for some reason I LOVE hdv.....
                                                                                              Im using the AVCHD straight from the camera.
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                                                                                              It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                                                • Karupted Charles
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 1662
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BrianL
                                                                                                  We are going to be rolling out some demo clips in the next week before Webmaster East. The Quality of the streams is impressive, and we can do live or on demand.

                                                                                                  The process to do Encrypted streams as well as SWF validation is going to be a relatively simple one from our end, this will be the closest thing to a true DRM you are going to be able to get as a full service offering for a while. Adobe and Level 3 have done a lot of work together and some big name players in non adult have signed on to being anchor tenants on the service.

                                                                                                  We also are very close to working out the details of a service which will do all the encoding for you to h.264 as it can be tricky and converting a decent sized library is no small task.
                                                                                                  Will this be a service offered to your current CDn customers or will it be separate. I have to say this is very exciting technology that we are very interested in working with.
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                                                                                                    • kesha1
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2008
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      So, it has a direct AVCHD conversion? I hope Premiere will finally read AVCHD as well!!
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                                                                                                        • BrianL
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                          • 50
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by KellyKayne
                                                                                                          Anyone want to convert a bunch of videos for me?
                                                                                                          Kelly, hit me up on ICQ. I am doing these on a case by case basis right now we can go over what you need done.
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                                                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                              • 30307
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                              anything that can be seen on a screen can be ripped. easily. show me one of these files and i will show you a wmv in no time at all. none.
                                                                                                              Uhh...
                                                                                                              Not this time mano. The stuff is pretty good for security, goes far beyond trippin in the cache.

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                                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                  • 24984
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                  Uhh...
                                                                                                                  Not this time mano. The stuff is pretty good for security, goes far beyond trippin in the cache.
                                                                                                                  Im assuming he is referring to Screen Capture recording.

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                                                                                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                      • 30307
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                      Im assuming he is referring to Screen Capture recording.

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                                                                                                                        • BrianL
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                          • 50
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Karupted Charles
                                                                                                                          Will this be a service offered to your current CDn customers or will it be separate. I have to say this is very exciting technology that we are very interested in working with.
                                                                                                                          This is a service open to all interested customers. We will have some folks turned up in the next week or so and I will share the videos for folks to see.
                                                                                                                          Brian L
                                                                                                                          Cave Creek Streaming and CDN
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                                                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                              • 24984
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BrianL
                                                                                                                              This is a service open to all interested customers. We will have some folks turned up in the next week or so and I will share the videos for folks to see.
                                                                                                                              Brian has been great to work with.

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                                                                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Bossman
                                                                                                                                  Next week we will have 2 members areas changing from wmv to h264 streaming - looking forward to the change
                                                                                                                                  so they wont be able to download clips anymore? Can you let us know how that works out,Im curious if there is no downloading how the customer will react.

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                                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                      Doin fine
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                      so they wont be able to download clips anymore? Can you let us know how that works out,Im curious if there is no downloading how the customer will react.
                                                                                                                                      Its what needs to be done industry wide. Maybe the increased quality will give everyone reason to stop the "you get to keep the product even though you rented it" deal..

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                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                          so they wont be able to download clips anymore? Can you let us know how that works out,Im curious if there is no downloading how the customer will react.
                                                                                                                                          I'm not sure with this technology, but with other DRM solutions you can offer downloadable movies that remain protected. And a few of the dvd sites are running flash with no or less accessible, download options... the features are pretty extreme, just about kill the need for a download.
                                                                                                                                          Last edited by TheDoc; 05-08-2008, 09:57 AM.
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                                                                                                                                            • Bossman
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                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 1263
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              When we change over to h264, then we will also remove the download options, and see what kind of responds we get
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                                                                                                                                                • BobG
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                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  interesting stuff

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                                                                                                                                                    • BrianL
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                      • 50
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                      I'm not sure with this technology, but with other DRM solutions you can offer downloadable movies that remain protected. And a few of the dvd sites are running flash with no or less accessible, download options... the features are pretty extreme, just about kill the need for a download.
                                                                                                                                                      We have offered a windows media DRM offering for quite a while, but it never really gained any traction, we still have it for anyone who is interested.

                                                                                                                                                      Delivering content in protected streams may not replace the existing model , but it certainly creates options.
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                                                                                                                                                        • quantum-x
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 6863
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          If you're talking about FMS3, which I assume you are, don't get too excited.

                                                                                                                                                          You still can't record or stream live in h.264 - you're still stuck to FLV + NellyMoser [closed source audio]

                                                                                                                                                          Even more painfully, it still only supports Actionscript 1.0 on the server side.

                                                                                                                                                          FMS has always offered reasonably secure streaming.
                                                                                                                                                          Unfortunately, this is more hype than real.
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                                                                                                                                                            • seeric
                                                                                                                                                              ..........
                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 41917
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                              Btw a simple thing that can be done is when encoding for h.264 use a different watermark than what you normally do for your other content. I bet you see very little of it on tubesites or on torrentsites.

                                                                                                                                                              I bet that less than 15% of the ripped off content out there came using a screen capture setup. IF that.
                                                                                                                                                              if it goes to tubes who really cares anyhow? those people sacrifice quality for endless amounts of whackable material.

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                                                                                                                                                                • webmasterchecks
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1685
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                                                  if it goes to tubes who really cares anyhow? those people sacrifice quality for endless amounts of whackable material.
                                                                                                                                                                  that makes sense. and would affect programs like perfect gonzo, ND, etc less, because their product is differentiated more than tube content.

                                                                                                                                                                  so i guess the ones with lower quality video would care more
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                                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 57021
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                                                                                                                                                                      I look forward to read more as people report back. My only reference is when we first started we disabled the right click so people couldnt save pictures and we almost had a riot. lol

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 18481
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                                                          if it goes to tubes who really cares anyhow? those people sacrifice quality for endless amounts of whackable material.
                                                                                                                                                                          You need to seek treatment for your piracy tourettes.

                                                                                                                                                                          In fact, you just created a thread a week or so ago saying how you tried to rip music off of YouTube, but were forced to buy it instead because you didn't like the quality. You then went on to say that paysites need to offer quality materials to attract customers.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 18481
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                                                              if it goes to tubes who really cares anyhow? those people sacrifice quality for endless amounts of whackable material.
                                                                                                                                                                              Here, you can answer that with your own post from your thread "PREMIUM CONENT VS GOOD ENOUGH CONTENT" on 05-03-2008:

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                                                              THE YOUTUBE COMPRESSION SUCKS MY NUTS!

                                                                                                                                                                              I would rather pay...

                                                                                                                                                                              You know what, there are lots of people like me.

                                                                                                                                                                              ...


                                                                                                                                                                              There you have it. There is "good enough" for people who won't buy anyhow. AND, Premium. For the sophisticated audiophile. Please apply this to your adult bizness.
                                                                                                                                                                              hahahahah

                                                                                                                                                                              Shill.
                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by Matt 26z; 05-08-2008, 04:33 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • whatif_3
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Catalyst
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                                      No. The reason is the Atom Moov meta tag is set at the end of the video. You have to change that. Be glad to show you how to do that Rich if you need.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Neat.. i am reading about that now.. what program do you use to change it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 24984
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Catalyst
                                                                                                                                                                                          Neat.. i am reading about that now.. what program do you use to change it?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • seeric
                                                                                                                                                                                              ..........
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 41917
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                                              Uhh...
                                                                                                                                                                                              Not this time mano. The stuff is pretty good for security, goes far beyond trippin in the cache.
                                                                                                                                                                                              not talking about the cache.

                                                                                                                                                                                              im saying that anything can be ripped from the screen. anything. the quality will be good enough to upload to a tube or share easily.

                                                                                                                                                                                              i absolutely love this codec though and i commend its developers on the accomplishments alone in file sizes to quality.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • seeric
                                                                                                                                                                                                  ..........
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 41917
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Here, you can answer that with your own post from your thread "PREMIUM CONENT VS GOOD ENOUGH CONTENT" on 05-03-2008:



                                                                                                                                                                                                  hahahahah

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Shill.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  correct.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • seeric
                                                                                                                                                                                                      ..........
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                                                      You need to seek treatment for your piracy tourettes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      In fact, you just created a thread a week or so ago saying how you tried to rip music off of YouTube, but were forced to buy it instead because you didn't like the quality. You then went on to say that paysites need to offer quality materials to attract customers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      i just downloaded 55 torrents of the newest movies on the planet, bought 11 tube sites, and snagged and ice cream cone from a 2 year old at the supermarket on the way home.

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