These Lotto Winners Will Be Absolutely Broke Within 3 Years
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little over a year im thinking ;)Comment
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A guy in Winnipeg won just over 8 million on the 6/49 in the late 90's. After going on that same kind of spending spree giving all his so-called 'friends' new SUV's etc, he was broke by 2003 and ended up committing suicide.
He died broke, apparently all those so-called friends had abandoned him after the money dried up.
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Yea I would collect interest in the bank, but still spend some of it.Originally posted by PeachesHonestly, if I won over $8mil, I'd probably spend the first mil paying off mortgages and buying some fun stuff too
THEN sock the rest of it away. But why not enjoy the hell out of some first?
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Interest in the bank?Originally posted by mechanicvirusYea I would collect interest in the bank, but still spend some of it.
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the bank doesnt pay shit for interest, you have to invest it yourself. you actually lose $ keeping it in the bank if you consider inflation.Originally posted by mechanicvirusYea I would collect interest in the bank, but still spend some of it.
besides, people that spend a lot of $ on lottory tickets usually arent that good at managing money in the first place, so this comes as no surprise.I host with VacaresComment
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This is a prime example of why most people go broke after winning a huge sum of cash like that. Most people have no clue what to do with that kind of money much less how to manage it properly. "interest in the bank"?? Please... bank interest isn't worth spit these days.Originally posted by mechanicvirusYea I would collect interest in the bank, but still spend some of it.
Why would you settle for 2 or 3 % when you can make 5 to 10 times that with a simple basic investment strategy?
The first thing to do when winning the lotto is to admit that you know fuck all about money management, and go out and find a professional investment expert who can offer some sound advice. Seriously, wouldn't it be nice to double that win in 10 years instead of having to sell your home to stay afloat because all the money has been squandered?Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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Depends on what you consider "shit" and what you plan to do with the money. I personally have just about everything in the bank right now earning between 4.5-4.8% so I can stay liquid and start buying property at foreclosure auctionsOriginally posted by beemkthe bank doesnt pay shit for interest, you have to invest it yourself. you actually lose $ keeping it in the bank if you consider inflation.
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Inflation sits between 3.5-4.5%. Enjoy that ~1%!Originally posted by PeachesDepends on what you consider "shit" and what you plan to do with the money. I personally have just about everything in the bank right now earning between 4.5-4.8% so I can stay liquid and start buying property at foreclosure auctions
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Originally posted by CDSmithThis is a prime example of why most people go broke after winning a huge sum of cash like that. Most people have no clue what to do with that kind of money much less how to manage it properly. "interest in the bank"?? Please... bank interest isn't worth spit these days.
Why would you settle for 2 or 3 % when you can make 5 to 10 times that with a simple basic investment strategy?
The first thing to do when winning the lotto is to admit that you know fuck all about money management, and go out and find a professional investment expert who can offer some sound advice. Seriously, wouldn't it be nice to double that win in 10 years instead of having to sell your home to stay afloat because all the money has been squandered?
Most "professional investment experts" will squander your money faster than you can. These guys could make money in the 90's bull market... but who couldn't?Comment
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...and everyone lived happily ever after.Originally posted by CDSmithA guy in Winnipeg won just over 8 million on the 6/49 in the late 90's. After going on that same kind of spending spree giving all his so-called 'friends' new SUV's etc, he was broke by 2003 and ended up committing suicide.
He died broke, apparently all those so-called friends had abandoned him after the money dried up.Comment
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of course if you plan on investing it on something better thats a different story. i keep a lot of money in the bank only because i havent invested it yet. also what i do which works good is use a home equity line of credit for my houses i purchase. that way you have access to a lot of cash when needed, and if you have extra cash after you use it you pay off the loan but still have acccess to get the $ back if you need it. it also gets you better deals on properties because when you pay cash they like it since you can close quicker, and dont have to pay mortgage fees.Originally posted by PeachesDepends on what you consider "shit" and what you plan to do with the money. I personally have just about everything in the bank right now earning between 4.5-4.8% so I can stay liquid and start buying property at foreclosure auctions
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That isn't saving money in the bank and earning interest. That's investing.Originally posted by PeachesI'll enjoy it when I buy some property at auction next month and then quadruple the return on it after a year
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The investment experts I'm referring to aren't the ones who are into playing the stock market with your money dude. I'm talking about people who know what they're doing with high-yeild low-risk types of investments, both long and short term, as in a good stable balance that brings in interest in the 10-25 percentile range.Originally posted by MonkMost "professional investment experts" will squander your money faster than you can. These guys could make money in the 90's bull market... but who couldn't?
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Who is earning 10-25% on low risk?Originally posted by CDSmithThe investment experts I'm referring to aren't the ones who are into playing the stock market with your money dude. I'm talking about people who know what they're doing with high-yeild low-risk types of investments, both long and short term, as in a good stable balance that brings in interest in the 10-25 percentile range.
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Wait until the IRS gets a hold of them and they have to fine out that they owe the gift tax for every person they gave $11,001 or more. Under 11K the person receiving it money is responsible for the tax.Comment
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My RRSP's alone earned higher than 10% last year and the year before.Originally posted by SlyWho is earning 10-25% on low risk?
In one particular year my Can-Am shares earned over 20%.
I have what's called a "Challenger fund" that comes with an insurance policy attached to it. That earned me just shy of 8% last year, still twice as good as my bank's regular interest.
I'm a dummy, but my investment guy isn't. So I know others must be out there doing just as well or better.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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If all they did was spend it... there wouldn't be a reason to care. But it doesn't end there.Originally posted by Michaeliousmoney is for spending who cares
Once they get down that never ending spiral of over spending and cash loss... it won't end once the winnings are gone. It can end in bankruptcy, or even worse as CD pointed out earlier... their lives.Comment
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We don't have that in Canada, which is where that couple resides.Originally posted by Kevin ? The PNNWait until the IRS gets a hold of them and they have to fine out that they owe the gift tax for every person they gave $11,001 or more. Under 11K the person receiving it money is responsible for the tax.
In fact, we pay NO tax on lotto winnings, except on interest earned later on from it.
The IRS can go suck an egg. :DPromote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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Yes, I believe I've heard you (and other people) say this before. Who are these mysterious people who can make such high yields on low risk? I'll believe it when I see it..... name names!Originally posted by CDSmithI'm talking about people who know what they're doing with high-yeild low-risk types of investments, both long and short term, as in a good stable balance that brings in interest in the 10-25 percentile range.
Sorry if I wasn't clear on that part.Comment
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what in particular were your RRSP investments?Originally posted by CDSmithMy RRSP's alone earned higher than 10% last year and the year before.
That's the key here.... in ONE particular year... and it was probably a particular year that the stock market did well.... what happens in years it doesn't. Its not guaranteed to go up... especially these days.Originally posted by CDSmithIn one particular year my Can-Am shares earned over 20%.Comment
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like peaches said, i would also be doing the same thing AT FIRST. however, after all my family was living comfortably (which wouldnt take that much) THEN its time to be smart about it. take $5mill and bank that shit! live off of the rest for a long time. let the $5mill grow ;)Comment
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I think he was talking about gift taxes. In the US, you can "gift" up to $11K without you (or the recipient) paying taxes on it. But each person can gift each person $11K. For instance my Mother could give my brother, his wife and each of their 2 kids $11K each, and so could my Dad, w/o paying taxes. So in basically my parents could give my brother's family $88K tax free. And it's per year so a lot of times family set it up to give it each year.Originally posted by CDSmithWe don't have that in Canada, which is where that couple resides.
In fact, we pay NO tax on lotto winnings, except on interest earned later on from it.
The IRS can go suck an egg. :D
But once you go over the $11K per person the giver has to start paying taxes.
As far as not paying taxes on winnings, I love sitting next to Canadians who win big in Vegas and watching them find out they won't get all their cash until they get back in Canada
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My guy is an independant insurance broker with a background in income tax, accounting and investments. I understand he's a rare find, but guys like him are out there.Originally posted by MonkYes, I believe I've heard you (and other people) say this before. Who are these mysterious people who can make such high yields on low risk? I'll believe it when I see it..... name names!
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In ONE PARTICULAR YEAR. Yes, it happens.Originally posted by CDSmithMy RRSP's alone earned higher than 10% last year and the year before.
In one particular year my Can-Am shares earned over 20%.
I have what's called a "Challenger fund" that comes with an insurance policy attached to it. That earned me just shy of 8% last year, still twice as good as my bank's regular interest.
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But from his post he was referring to this couple in question, and they are Canadian, not in the US. They won a Canadian Lottery, so all the blabber about gift taxes and 11k's just don't apply here.Originally posted by PeachesI think he was talking about gift taxes. In the US, you can "gift" up to $11K without you (or the recipient) paying taxes on it. But each person can gift each person $11K. For instance my Mother could give my brother, his wife and each of their 2 kids $11K each, and so could my Dad, w/o paying taxes. So in basically my parents could give my brother's family $88K tax free. And it's per year so a lot of times family set it up to give it each year.
But once you go over the $11K per person the giver has to start paying taxes.
From what I've heard from people who have won big down there, we get dinged by the IRS just the same as anyone else. Win $100k and they take their large chunk no matter where you're from.... at least that's the way I've heard it (from many sources actually)Originally posted by PeachesAs far as not paying taxes on winnings, I love sitting next to Canadians who win big in Vegas and watching them find out they won't get all their cash until they get back in Canada
The difference is that once back in Canada, there is an agency we can apply to, to recover most of what the IRS took from us. If they took $40k for example, this agency can recover up to something like 90% of it. They then take their fee and we get the rest.... which is still a better deal than what any US citizen gets. :DPromote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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CD, the lottery and the gift taxes have nothing to do with each other. If you guys don't have gift taxes, that's great, but it has nothing to do with winning the lottery
And yes, I know they get their money when they get back, but you should see how pissed they are that they don't get it RIGHT THEN - especially if they've had a few cocktails ;)Comment
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No one reputable could or would garantee that every year. "low risk" does not mean "without risk".... there is some risk of having loss in some years, but that risk is low.Originally posted by SlyIn ONE PARTICULAR YEAR. Yes, it happens.
Do that every year for many years on low risk, yeh right.
Thus the reason why I said 10-25%. Of course it would be sweet to nail 20%+ every year.... but shit man whaddya want?? Like I said, even 8% is over twice as good as the bank's regular shit for interest.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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This is priceless:
The big loser was the saleswoman at an Edmonton dealership who apparently didn't believe Luke when he showed up Tuesday looking for a deal on four Hummers.
"I'm positive they didn't take me seriously," he said, adding he went to Calgary instead and bought three Hummers for $241,000.
"Somebody lost a commission."Whitehat is for chumps
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Yep, 8% is the stock market average over time I believe, which of course is better than any bank will give you.Originally posted by CDSmithNo one reputable could or would garantee that every year. "low risk" does not mean "without risk".... there is some risk of having loss in some years, but that risk is low.
Thus the reason why I said 10-25%. Of course it would be sweet to nail 20%+ every year.... but shit man whaddya want?? Like I said, even 8% is over twice as good as the bank's regular shit for interest.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Jeez louise Peachy, go back and read that guy's post again! We're talking about what that couple is doing with their lotto winnings, as in giving large sums as gifts for god sakes. He said he can't wait until the IRS gets ahold of them. I then pointed out that they arne't US citizens, they are Canadians, thus his post is nonsense.Originally posted by PeachesCD, the lottery and the gift taxes have nothing to do with each other. If you guys don't have gift taxes, that's great, but it has nothing to do with winning the lottery
Is that a bit clearer? I hope so, I don't think I can make it any less fuzzy without cracking my head on my keyboard.
Please say yes.
Well truthfully, there are idiots of every nationality, even Canadian. :DOriginally posted by PeachesAnd yes, I know they get their money when they get back, but you should see how pissed they are that they don't get it RIGHT THEN - especially if they've had a few cocktails ;)Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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Not in Canada ... anything you win like that is untaxed.Originally posted by Kevin ? The PNNWait until the IRS gets a hold of them and they have to fine out that they owe the gift tax for every person they gave $11,001 or more. Under 11K the person receiving it money is responsible for the tax.
Be something sweet to win $8 million in the lotto and physically take home $8 mil.Comment
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Yeah, I get it, but I have the urge to say no just so you'll crack your head on your keyboardOriginally posted by CDSmithIs that a bit clearer? I hope so, I don't think I can make it any less fuzzy without cracking my head on my keyboard.
Please say yes.
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Very true ... why as salesperson you'd brush someone off mindboggles me. I have met some people just in this industry who you couldn't tell they had money at all ... and they are millionaires.Originally posted by DamageXThis is priceless:
The big loser was the saleswoman at an Edmonton dealership who apparently didn't believe Luke when he showed up Tuesday looking for a deal on four Hummers.
"I'm positive they didn't take me seriously," he said, adding he went to Calgary instead and bought three Hummers for $241,000.
"Somebody lost a commission."Comment
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It's been done, trust me. I have "QUERTY" permanently stamped just over the eyebrows.Originally posted by PeachesYeah, I get it, but I have the urge to say no just so you'll crack your head on your keyboard
Admit it, you love me.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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