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  • woj
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    #51
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    • GatorB
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      • Oct 2001
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      #52
      Originally posted by SomeCreep
      There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.

      Yes no money in Adwords. Please do NOT get started in Adwords. And if you are already using Adwords, STOP. I beg of you, everyone using Adwords needs to stop doing it. except me of course

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      • detoxed
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        • Jan 2003
        • 17798

        #53
        $15 a sale? Go with ppl paying $40 then. They are out there. some places pay hundreds.

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        • edgeprod
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          • Mar 2004
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          #54
          PPS sucks with AdWords for me. Revshare shows you're in the game.

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          • edgeprod
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            #55
            wrong forum! ha!

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            • mrthumbs
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              • Apr 2002
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              #56
              the trick is conversions idiots.. with AdWords you should do 1:30-1:50.. its not tgp traffic you assclowns.. oh wait.. tgp traffic is 1:3000..
              Find a product that converts and its probably not in the adult area..

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              • GatorB
                The Demon & 12clicks
                • Oct 2001
                • 18208

                #57
                Originally posted by mrthumbs
                the trick is conversions idiots.. with AdWords you should do 1:30-1:50.. its not tgp traffic you assclowns.. oh wait.. tgp traffic is 1:3000..
                Find a product that converts and its probably not in the adult area..
                Like what, selling shit from Amazon for 5% comission? People that click Adwords ads are much more willing to buy porn than TGP traffic. If they wanted free porn they go to the TGPs. If they want free porn but are too stupid to find it that's not my problem.

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                • GatorB
                  The Demon & 12clicks
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 18208

                  #58
                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                  PPS sucks with AdWords for me. Revshare shows you're in the game.
                  Um ok. So you spend say $15 on a sale where you get $2.50 with no promise of any rebills rather than getting a for sure $30 and know in fact that you WILL make a profit?

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                  • Paparazzi
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                    • Mar 2002
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                    #59
                    anyone know if miva & overture review listings on Sat-Sun or only on Mon-Fri?

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                    • Donny
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                      • May 2002
                      • 13754

                      #60
                      Originally posted by damian2001
                      I would have thought Adwords did WAY better than 1:300 - This isnt TGP traffic.

                      Also I doubt anyone would do it for $15 a sale - where did you get that figure from?
                      From my experience it's always been 1:900 to 1:1200. Wasn't impressed.

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                      • bigdog
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                        • Jul 2001
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                        #61
                        You need to get wiredguys account manager

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                        • GatorB
                          The Demon & 12clicks
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 18208

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Donny
                          From my experience it's always been 1:900 to 1:1200. Wasn't impressed.

                          With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.

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                          • bdld
                            $100,000
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 11452

                            #63
                            if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too

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                            • bdld
                              $100,000
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 11452

                              #64
                              with adwords as with most other advertising sources, mainstream conversions are way better than adult.. but the adult payouts are much larger. either way there's profits to be made if you know what you're doing.

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                              • vanillaice
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.
                                I was wondering about search partners. I haven't really tested w/o, is it a big difference?

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                                • vanillaice
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                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 512

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by bdld
                                  if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too
                                  How much do you estimate before you get one? I felt good to get an invite to the offline editor lol.

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                                  • Donny
                                    As you wish...
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 13754

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                    With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.
                                    I've been around 8 years. I am not a complete moron. Adwords results simply sucked for me. Just telling you my experiences.

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                                    • edgeprod
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                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 10019

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                      Um ok. So you spend say $15 on a sale where you get $2.50 with no promise of any rebills rather than getting a for sure $30 and know in fact that you WILL make a profit?
                                      Revshare shows you're in the game.

                                      I personally guarantee you stand in the welfare line every month.

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                                      • edgeprod
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                                        • Mar 2004
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Donny
                                        I've been around 8 years. I am not a complete moron. Adwords results simply sucked for me. Just telling you my experiences.
                                        Like water off a duck's back, man. Look at the guy's post history. It's laughable.

                                        What you're saying doesn't have the ring of bullshit, and that's what counts.

                                        He's just flexing his e-peen -- you know the type.

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                                        • GatorB
                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 18208

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                                          Revshare shows you're in the game.

                                          I personally guarantee you stand in the welfare line every month.

                                          What are you 12? And you're wrong I am not on welfare.

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                                          • edgeprod
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                                            • Mar 2004
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by GatorB
                                            What are you 12? And you're wrong I am not on welfare.
                                            Yes, I'm 12, but I buy my groceries without reaching for food stamps. I saw that picture of you with the tattered old clothing, 5 teeth missing, and the skanky male model boyfriend. It kind of skeeved me out, but to each his own.

                                            Sorry if I called it "welfare" -- what is it called in your state? "Assisted living?" Good luck with it.

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                                            • GatorB
                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 18208

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by vanillaice
                                              I was wondering about search partners. I haven't really tested w/o, is it a big difference?
                                              I find end up costing you ore than theya re worth. But that's me. Thing is I know how my ad is going to look on Google. I don't know how it's going to look or be interpreted by the surfer on any of those other sites. Last thing I want is a bunch of confused surfers clicking my ad that have no intention of buying. This seems to be more a problem on their search partners. I suppose some Adwords people will say they make as much or more using the search partners and that may be the case with them.

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                                              • GatorB
                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 18208

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                Yes, I'm 12, but I buy my groceries without reaching for food stamps. I saw that picture of you with the tattered old clothing, 5 teeth missing, and the skanky male model boyfriend. It kind of skeeved me out, but to each his own.

                                                Sorry if I called it "welfare" -- what is it called in your state? "Assisted living?" Good luck with it.
                                                WTF is your issue with me. I've done nothing to you for you to be an ass? And no I'm not on food stamps either. Just because you lie reshare you have to be disrespectful to me because I don't think it's wise to use it on Adwords. WTF is wrong with you? most webmaster here use PPS so you are bsically insulting them too. "In the game" WTF is that? You are 12. Who in the fuck do you think you're impressing with that? You're attitude shows you're NOT in the game.

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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 18208

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                  Like water off a duck's back, man. Look at the guy's post history. It's laughable.

                                                  What you're saying doesn't have the ring of bullshit, and that's what counts.

                                                  He's just flexing his e-peen -- you know the type.
                                                  WTF does that mean? Oh ok everyone that uses Adwords is not making money and is somehow lyng and still spending money on Adwords for some unknown reason. Ok sounds reasonable.

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                                                  • edgeprod
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                                                    • Mar 2004
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    WTF is your issue with me. I've done nothing to you for you to be an ass?
                                                    Actually, that's not entirely true. That girl your raped was my cousin, asshole.

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                                                    • edgeprod
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                                                      • Mar 2004
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                      WTF does that mean? Oh ok everyone that uses Adwords is not making money and is somehow lyng
                                                      I make plenty of money from AdWords. And from sex with horses.

                                                      But I know that you don't. I saw that your accounts at your major sponsors was still waiting to accumulate the minimum check amounts.

                                                      In the meantime, you always have food stamps. There's no shame, I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

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                                                      • GatorB
                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 18208

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by bdld
                                                        if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too
                                                        How much do you suggest I spend?

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                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 10019

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                          How much do you suggest I spend?
                                                          They don't accept food stamps currently, but you might be able to work something out if you email them.

                                                          FYI: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.

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                                                          • Xplicit
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 3558

                                                            #79
                                                            Adwords is a strange thing....

                                                            Ive doubled my money on it with some sponsors, the BIG downside to that is I had to make my bid prices so low in order to make a profit, i got very little traffic.

                                                            So yeah I doubled my money, but "my money" was $20/day.

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                                                            • GatorB
                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                              • 18208

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Xplicit
                                                              Adwords is a strange thing....

                                                              Ive doubled my money on it with some sponsors, the BIG downside to that is I had to make my bid prices so low in order to make a profit, i got very little traffic.

                                                              So yeah I doubled my money, but "my money" was $20/day.
                                                              Surely you can find enough keywords than to spend more than $20 a day. Also sometimes it pays to spend a bit more, but you've got to be careful.

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                                                              • bdld
                                                                $100,000
                                                                • Dec 2001
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by vanillaice
                                                                How much do you estimate before you get one? I felt good to get an invite to the offline editor lol.
                                                                i'd guesstimate 1k/day for a year

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                                                                • nekrom
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                                                                  • Mar 2004
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                  Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

                                                                  And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.
                                                                  hahhaha right on mate. You shoulda seen the email I sent to them. They gave me some aussie account rep for a bit, then I ended up on the "we'll add you when we give a fuck" list.

                                                                  So much for the "on the fly" setup. I also got the other day the google australia office address/phone number. I should head down and pay a friendly visit. Ask how much more money I have to burn per month to get some one, with 1/2 a clue.

                                                                  -N
                                                                  Free Traffic

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                                                                  • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                    • 18975

                                                                    #83
                                                                    I get a funny feeling about adwords. I don't think the gravy train will last very long.

                                                                    This is just my opinion.
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                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 34515

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
                                                                      WG
                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                      • cool1g
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                                                                        • Sep 2002
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        i know of a guy that promotes only mainstream products via adwords. he spends $200-$300K per months and typically grosses around $500K - $2.4 million+ per year and he's a one-man operation. he always keeps me motivated.

                                                                        i've promoted a certain niche from a large program and consistently gotten 1:100-1:150 paying no more than $0.06 but granted the traffic isn't that high...
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                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 18208

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by bdld
                                                                          i'd guesstimate 1k/day for a year
                                                                          That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.

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                                                                          • moniker1
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            OK.. then my question is .. wtf is wrong with me? Am I dumb or lazy or both!!!!!! Fuck
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                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 40377

                                                                              #88
                                                                              overall whoever converts 1:50 with any porn traffic, gets my respect

                                                                              you f.e hear people saying "typein traffic" converts great, and yet for me it does 1:2000 or so and im far from stupid and my ads seem quite good
                                                                              maybe im just shaved by the sponsors to death :/

                                                                              with adwords, i have some small campaigns now, but they arent doing better than 1:200 id say
                                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                              • sacX
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.
                                                                                do greater than 10k a month for 3 or 4 months and you should get a rep
                                                                                Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                • bigdog
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                  That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.
                                                                                  I agree with you, but in reality that is peanuts to the big spenders. You got guys in adult dropping 3k+ daily

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                                                                                  • Rui
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                                                                                    • Dec 2001
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                    Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
                                                                                    WG
                                                                                    or have enough to fund the waiting for the rebills or if you run the program push it yourself...

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                                                                                    • Theo
                                                                                      HAL 9000
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 34515

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by cool1g
                                                                                      i know of a guy that promotes only mainstream products via adwords. he spends $200-$300K per months and typically grosses around $500K - $2.4 million+ per year and he's a one-man operation. he always keeps me motivated.

                                                                                      i've promoted a certain niche from a large program and consistently gotten 1:100-1:150 paying no more than $0.06 but granted the traffic isn't that high...

                                                                                      and the guy you know can do it with by spending 200k-300k/month ?

                                                                                      i highly doubt he is telling you the truth. btw you spent $200k/month and you gross the 2.4mil/year you on break even point lol

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                                                                                      • irbobo
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        or should you say "Click Fraud".. google has been known on way too many occasions to falsely accuse of this, and when asked to provide evidence they state it would reveal secrets to their algorithm.

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                                                                                        • Wiggles
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                                                                                          • May 2004
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          i am 1:27 with adwords, first time ever, not easy though, nick3131 helped me alot, he knows his shit!
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                                                                                          • irbobo
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12408277/

                                                                                            They probably use the so called "Click Fraud" to boost their earnings. They can seriously just say oops.. we need more money.. let's falsely accuse such and such and then keep his money.

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                                                                                            • Nicky
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                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                              Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
                                                                                              WG
                                                                                              WG, can I have your adwords login I need to check some stuff.

                                                                                              gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                              • donnie
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                Actually, that's not entirely true. That girl your raped was my cousin, asshole.
                                                                                                WTF? Who raped who?

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                                                                                                • vanillaice
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                                  do greater than 10k a month for 3 or 4 months and you should get a rep
                                                                                                  That's not too bad. Thanks for the info

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                                                                                                  • cool1g
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                    and the guy you know can do it with by spending 200k-300k/month ?

                                                                                                    i highly doubt he is telling you the truth. btw you spent $200k/month and you gross the 2.4mil/year you on break even point lol
                                                                                                    hehe - posts don't quite make 100% sense when u make them after a couple of drinks.

                                                                                                    that guy grosses $500K per month on average - he spends $200-300K. so he is netting a minimuim of $200K per month or $2.4 Mil a year. I've seen photos of his checks and know some of the sites he runs, as well as his reputation in the mainstream aff world so i believe it. i've never seen him try to make $ by telling people how well he does and pushing some sort of program.

                                                                                                    he works only in mainstream programs that pay a minimum of $10 pps, and preferable $50. he's based in the UK, and there many of the mortgage programs will pay $90-100 per application - i would think a good PPCer could acquire those applicants for $50. you can see some of those programs on CJ.com.

                                                                                                    remember people, google took in $2.25 BILLION dollars in the Q1 of 2006. That is $25 MILLION PER DAY. That tells you PPC must work or there are a lot of stupid people out there.
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                                                                                                    • Subway
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Tried it with a budget of 1000 euro's, loss: 800 euro.

                                                                                                      BINGO

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