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  • moniker1
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 89

    #1

    "O yea, I do great with AdWords!" = BULLSHIT?

    Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

    For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
    Wanna sign up with a new sponsor? Let me be your ref and we'll split Bonus 50/50! $200 is too rich for my blood, I gots to sharez! ICQ 232892576
  • madawgz
    8.8.8.8
    • Mar 2006
    • 30509

    #2
    adwords sucks.....
    TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #3
      Originally posted by moniker1
      Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

      For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
      PPS is often about $30-$35 per sale, but aside from that, quite a few program owners actually do campaigns themselves.
      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #4
        Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done.

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        • Damian_Maxcash
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2002
          • 12745

          #5
          I would have thought Adwords did WAY better than 1:300 - This isnt TGP traffic.

          Also I doubt anyone would do it for $15 a sale - where did you get that figure from?

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          • vvq
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 2732

            #6
            Originally posted by moniker1
            Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

            For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
            1:300 with adwords traffic? that's horrible. target less broad terms. get off their content network. make sure people know they'll be paying for porn when they click your link. shoot for the #1 spot on the left, or #3 spot on the right. send the traffic to a landing page offering multiple sites in the niche you're targeting. tweak your campaigns as needed.

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            • chshkt
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 1500

              #7
              of course that everything can be achieved... but on what price?
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              • moniker1
                Registered User
                • Feb 2006
                • 89

                #8
                OK I fucked up with the payout amount... let's say it is $30 PPS. Then break-even conversion is 1:600. Still un-real. And that's with 0.05 MINIMUM BID. Any keyword worth shit is multiples of 0.05
                Wanna sign up with a new sponsor? Let me be your ref and we'll split Bonus 50/50! $200 is too rich for my blood, I gots to sharez! ICQ 232892576

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                • Libertine
                  sex dwarf
                  • May 2002
                  • 17860

                  #9
                  Originally posted by moniker1
                  OK I fucked up with the payout amount... let's say it is $30 PPS. Then break-even conversion is 1:600. Still un-real. And that's with 0.05 MINIMUM BID. Any keyword worth shit is multiples of 0.05
                  Ehm, 1:600 is not unreal.
                  /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                  • Sosa
                    In Tushy Land
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 40149

                    #10
                    Seems to me you have to have a lot of traffic to make a decent amount with adwords.

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                    • Tom_PM
                      Porn Meister
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 16443

                      #11
                      1:300 is horrible

                      Shoot for less than 1:50 and you're doing well.
                      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                      • Damian_Maxcash
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 12745

                        #12
                        Originally posted by moniker1
                        OK I fucked up with the payout amount... let's say it is $30 PPS. Then break-even conversion is 1:600. Still un-real. And that's with 0.05 MINIMUM BID. Any keyword worth shit is multiples of 0.05

                        Go back to school - and I thought my maths was bad

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                        • moniker1
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 89

                          #13
                          Are you telling me you do 1:50 and below on adwords selling porn?


                          Originally posted by PR_Tom
                          1:300 is horrible

                          Shoot for less than 1:50 and you're doing well.
                          Wanna sign up with a new sponsor? Let me be your ref and we'll split Bonus 50/50! $200 is too rich for my blood, I gots to sharez! ICQ 232892576

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                          • V_RocKs
                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32451

                            #14
                            My account....

                            One campaign - 1,797 8,322 21.5% $0.05 $95.35

                            That is 1,797 clicks on 8,322 impressions... .10 average CPC for $95.35



                            Now sponsors stats:
                            Total 4681 4440 320 22 $396.95 10 $149.75 0 $0.00 $546.70

                            4681/4440 raw/unique 320/join page - 22 signups 10 rebills... $546.70 total.

                            $546.70
                            -$95.35
                            ----------

                            My total profit on this campaign is:
                            $451.35

                            You need to try and look and search.. It took me about 3 months to come across the sponsor...

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                            • moniker1
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 89

                              #15
                              btw I wish there was an Edit button on this motherfuckign forum
                              Wanna sign up with a new sponsor? Let me be your ref and we'll split Bonus 50/50! $200 is too rich for my blood, I gots to sharez! ICQ 232892576

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                              • Splum
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2003
                                • 6195

                                #16
                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                My account....
                                One campaign - 1,797 8,322 21.5% $0.05 $95.35
                                That is 1,797 clicks on 8,322 impressions... .10 average CPC for $95.35
                                Now sponsors stats:
                                Total 4681 4440 320 22 $396.95 10 $149.75 0 $0.00 $546.70
                                4681/4440 raw/unique 320/join page - 22 signups 10 rebills... $546.70 total.
                                Not trying to discredit your numbers there but how do we get 4440 uniques from only 1797 clicks on the ad?

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                                • Damian_Maxcash
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 12745

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                  My account....

                                  One campaign - 1,797 8,322 21.5% $0.05 $95.35

                                  That is 1,797 clicks on 8,322 impressions... .10 average CPC for $95.35



                                  Now sponsors stats:
                                  Total 4681 4440 320 22 $396.95 10 $149.75 0 $0.00 $546.70

                                  4681/4440 raw/unique 320/join page - 22 signups 10 rebills... $546.70 total.

                                  $546.70
                                  -$95.35
                                  ----------

                                  My total profit on this campaign is:
                                  $451.35

                                  You need to try and look and search.. It took me about 3 months to come across the sponsor...

                                  OK - now its my turn to be an idiot - how did you get 4440 uniques from 1797 clicks?

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                                  • Tom_PM
                                    Porn Meister
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 16443

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by moniker1
                                    Are you telling me you do 1:50 and below on adwords selling porn?
                                    yes, regularly.

                                    Work hard and smart and experiment and watch your bottom line like a damn hawk. Learn spreadsheets to do your P&L. It's a business
                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                    • moniker1
                                      Registered User
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 89

                                      #19
                                      And that's for what period of time?


                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                      My account....

                                      One campaign - 1,797 8,322 21.5% $0.05 $95.35

                                      That is 1,797 clicks on 8,322 impressions... .10 average CPC for $95.35



                                      Now sponsors stats:
                                      Total 4681 4440 320 22 $396.95 10 $149.75 0 $0.00 $546.70

                                      4681/4440 raw/unique 320/join page - 22 signups 10 rebills... $546.70 total.

                                      $546.70
                                      -$95.35
                                      ----------

                                      My total profit on this campaign is:
                                      $451.35

                                      You need to try and look and search.. It took me about 3 months to come across the sponsor...
                                      Wanna sign up with a new sponsor? Let me be your ref and we'll split Bonus 50/50! $200 is too rich for my blood, I gots to sharez! ICQ 232892576

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                                      • Dirty F
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204

                                        #20
                                        I do 1:30 with adwords.

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                                        • Dollarmansteve
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2005
                                          • 2849

                                          #21
                                          I run the adwords campaigns over here. I currently run one that does between 5 - 8 joins per day converting at 1:20. I have a $100/day cap.
                                          I died.

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                                          • Pornwolf
                                            Drunk and Unruly
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 22712

                                            #22
                                            It's possible but you definitely can't do it with every sponsor. The more niched you can get the better.
                                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                            Webair, bitches.

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                                            • StuBradley
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 2625

                                              #23
                                              I do about 1:85 on evalovescum with adwords. I dont know if any of my affiliates use it but I pay $25-30 per signup for her site. I can't see how they could not make a profit unless they were going for overly broad words like "cum".

                                              51-566-514

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                                              • V_RocKs
                                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 32451

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Splum
                                                Not trying to discredit your numbers there but how do we get 4440 uniques from only 1797 clicks on the ad?
                                                Galleries from TGP/MGP traffic that doesn't convert for shit...

                                                Also I do SE work... so a small portion comes from that too... unfortunately the sponsor in question doesn't have campaign tracking...

                                                So you can attribute about 10% of sales to everything else and 90% to the Adwords campaign it runs in.

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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32451

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by moniker1
                                                  And that's for what period of time?
                                                  The month.... now multiply it by 10 and you have about what an IT guy would make out of college...

                                                  I love this campaign because I set it up last year and haven't touched it since... I just keep getting paid for basically do.... nothing....

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                                                  • vanillaice
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 512

                                                    #26
                                                    Adwords traffic doesn't convert, dont' believe the hype ;)

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                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 32451

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                      It's possible but you definitely can't do it with every sponsor. The more niched you can get the better.

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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32451

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by moniker1
                                                        Are you telling me you do 1:50 and below on adwords selling porn?
                                                        I used to do better than that with some Nasty Dollars ads before someone decided to do them for amounts per click that I was no longer comfortable with.

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                                                        • vanillaice
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 512

                                                          #29
                                                          Quick question to Adwords gurus who use landing pages. What's a good CTR from the landing page to the affiliate? I'm pushing between 70%-85% depending on the landing page / niche. Is that what I should expect, or more? Personally I would think better, but i'm picky. I don't like losing 150-200 clicks every 1k

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                                                          • GatorB
                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 18208

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by moniker1
                                                            Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

                                                            For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
                                                            Ok first of all you can get keywords for as low as 1 cent not 5.

                                                            Secondly doing revshare with Adwords is retarded. If you have 3 months worth of ad budget money are are willing to wait 3 months to see if can even break even then go for it.

                                                            1:300 sucks. If you keywords are perfoming that badly then you need to drop them. Still 1:300 even at 5 cents per click and a sponsor paying $30 per sign up means a 100% profit.

                                                            Also depends on how much you spend. Say if you could spend $20K a week and even if you only made 10% profit that's $100K in profit a year. Not bad.

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                                                            • GatorB
                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                              • 18208

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by vanillaice
                                                              Quick question to Adwords gurus who use landing pages. What's a good CTR from the landing page to the affiliate? I'm pushing between 70%-85% depending on the landing page / niche. Is that what I should expect, or more? Personally I would think better, but i'm picky. I don't like losing 150-200 clicks every 1k
                                                              That seems about right. You can't expect to get 100% of everyone to go to the sponsor. Those 150-200 probally wouldn't have signed up anyways. But if you want to be sure make 2 ads, one going to the landing page one going directly to the sponsor. This is assuming your sponsor uses campaign codes. Have both ads show equally for the exact same keywords at the same price per click. do this for a month and see which ad makes you more money. Don't worry about conversion ratios in your sponosr stats it's PROFIT that counts.
                                                              Last edited by GatorB; 04-21-2006, 02:18 PM.

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                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                • 28609

                                                                #32
                                                                i will give everyone the simplest cliff notes

                                                                If you buy traffic for 5cents and sell it for 6 cents your making 1 penny

                                                                do that a million times and how much money have you made.. ?
                                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                • GatorB
                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 18208

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  i will give everyone the simplest cliff notes

                                                                  If you buy traffic for 5cents and sell it for 6 cents your making 1 penny

                                                                  do that a million times and how much money have you made.. ?
                                                                  A lot of pennies. I'd imagine rolling all those pennies up would take long time.

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                                                                  • potter
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 6559

                                                                    #34
                                                                    1:300 ? I do better than that off tgp/babeblog traffic.

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                                                                    • Dollarmansteve
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 2849

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by vanillaice
                                                                      Quick question to Adwords gurus who use landing pages. What's a good CTR from the landing page to the affiliate? I'm pushing between 70%-85% depending on the landing page / niche. Is that what I should expect, or more? Personally I would think better, but i'm picky. I don't like losing 150-200 clicks every 1k
                                                                      I only get 60% CTR and it is very profitable. This is on 24 unique-IP tracking.
                                                                      I died.

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                                                                      • vanillaice
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 512

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                        That seems about right. You can't expect to get 100% of everyone to go to the sponsor. Those 150-200 probally wouldn't have signed up anyways. But if you want to be sure make 2 ads, one going to the landing page one going directly to the sponsor. This is assuming your sponsor uses campaign codes. Have both ads show equally for the exact same keywords at the same price per click. do this for a month and see which ad makes you more money. Don't worry about conversion ratios in your sponosr stats it's PROFIT that counts.
                                                                        Since they made the '1 site per search listing', i've been very scared to try to send directly to sponsor. Doesn't it cost a fortune? (unless you find a rare unused sponsor of course) I assume you have to get in shitty bidding wars with people.

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                                                                        • vanillaice
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                          • 512

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                                          I only get 60% CTR and it is very profitable. This is on 24 unique-IP tracking.
                                                                          Thanks, I was stressing over the 60% today, it definitely makes my 75-80% ratios look better.

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                                                                          • vanillaice
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                            • 512

                                                                            #38
                                                                            My biggest Adwords gripe...

                                                                            Not only does it seem like they stop reviewing ads at like 1pm on friday afternoon until sometime monday morning, it's getting frustrating to see mid-week changes take 2-3 days now. To be fair though, my last few changes have been completed in about 24 hours, but it does suck when you're A/B testing ads and want to make changes every 50-100 clicks or so.

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                                                                            • chadglni
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 6924

                                                                              #39
                                                                              A guy in my downline was pushing around $250,000 per year on paid advertising. About 90% of it was adwords and that was just 1 program out of a dozen or so on his landing page.


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                                                                              • elitetec
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                • 4944

                                                                                #40
                                                                                great for u



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                                                                                • Tapaz
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                  • 1745

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  nice thread

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                                                                                  • sh33p
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 541

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    No money on the net..nothing at all. ;)

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                                                                                    • beemk
                                                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 20829

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      how about $30-35 a sale with conversion ratios of 1:50 - 1:100
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                                                                                      • GatorB
                                                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 18208

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by vanillaice
                                                                                        My biggest Adwords gripe...

                                                                                        Not only does it seem like they stop reviewing ads at like 1pm on friday afternoon until sometime monday morning, it's getting frustrating to see mid-week changes take 2-3 days now. To be fair though, my last few changes have been completed in about 24 hours, but it does suck when you're A/B testing ads and want to make changes every 50-100 clicks or so.
                                                                                        Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

                                                                                        And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.

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                                                                                        • camuseeme
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                          • 413

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I just got back in the biz so I don't have a lot of traffic sources other than Adwords and Yahoo. I make between 30% -50% profit each week.

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                                                                                          • vanillaice
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                            • 512

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                            Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

                                                                                            And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.
                                                                                            Yea it's pretty stupid that you can spend $30k+ a year with them, but still need every single change you make to your ads reviewed like you're some newbie. And not only do they need to be reviewed, they need to be reviewed before they'll show.

                                                                                            Didn't google have something like the "pro" service included a year or two ago? I seem to remember making changes, seeing them pretty quickly, then getting an e-mail a few days later if my ad was declined for whatever reason.

                                                                                            I don't remember exactly when the extreme slowness started, but I don't think it's always been like it.

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                                                                                            • Remastered
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                              • 182

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Fuck I hate these threads, die thread die.

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                                                                                              • SomeCreep
                                                                                                :glugglug
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 26118

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by moniker1
                                                                                                Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

                                                                                                For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
                                                                                                There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.

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                                                                                                • Splum
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 6195

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Hahahaha adwords rules, dont let the haters fool ya there is LOTS of money to be made with it. Ive got my shit set straight so it dont bother me to speak the truth.
                                                                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jIWWFBvs7A

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                                                                                                  • Remastered
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                    • 182

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                    There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.
                                                                                                    Don't forget the CLICK FRAUD.

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