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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
So tonight is the only night that matters? None of the other election nights we've had so far have mattered? All of those elections where he's won more votes and accumulated more pledged delegates.....the only one out of all of those that matters is tonight?
What about North Carolina and Indiana? Do they matter? Or is Pennsylvania the only state that matters and the other 49 are just wasting their time by holding primaries?
Delegates determine who wins the nomination. Neither you or I or anyone else on the planet can do anything more than guess when it comes to who will win in November and why.
You may think you know, but all you're really doing is constructing an argument based on your candidate preference.
These things change so many times and so fast it's ridiculous. The general election is 7 months away, that's an eternity in politics.
For a point of reference, consider this. The Iowa caucuses were 4 months ago, think about what the race was like then. Hillary was "inevitable", there was no way she could lose. Now she's making arguments based on ideas that require intense mental gymnastics just to follow.....not to mention the fact that the argument changes every week once they realize that last week's argument didn't work for them.
Who out there predicted that? Who, 4 months ago, predicted that Hillary would be hanging on by a very thin thread, behind in the popular vote and delegate count, almost completely out of campaign funds, and praying that superdelegates would break for her to give her the nomination?
Nobody.
And this has only been 4 months....we have almost twice that time between now and the general, so don't pretend to know what will happen between now and then, because you don't have a clue.
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You imply I pick and choose the info I want to present and yet you're the worst example of someone that does that... You talk about how Obama will win in November and then you say no one knows.. You're such a moron that can't seem to put together a cohesive argument... Nowhere did I say or imply that tonights results are the only ones that matter. You put it out there that more money, more donors etc. are the reason he'll win.. I was pointing out that the results from tonight indicate that that's not the case.
What about North Carolina and Indiana? The only thing that matters in those states or any other is the exit polls and what they indicate about who the core voters are voting for and how they will relate to going against McCain. Who, by their results in the battlefield states, has the best chance of eroding support for McCain and winning against him. Tonights result is exactly the type of electoral college, state by state election results that the voting in November will come down to and Obama didn't deliver even with all the extra money etc. He went into a state that favored Hillary (now change that name to McCain) and he had more money, more donors, out spent Hillary by 3x and he lost. He can't use the excuse anymore that the votors don't know him.
North Carolina, Indiana are republican states.. So in order to win in November, Obama needs to get the type of voters that will be voting for McCain... blue collar, religious etc... Tonights result indicated once again that he has a very hard time with those voters..
Pennsylvania is a swing state.. And he lost to Hillary even with his outspending her.. The Democrats can't afford "hoping" they'll win that swing state come November.
But hey.. Reality doesn't matter.. As one Obama supporter said.. "When I hear him talk he speaks to my heart"... Guess everyone will just have to "hope" that Obama "can" win...