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Not much of a victory seeing as the only state she had a huge lead in evaporated. She has no chance other than getting all her rich freinds to pull some shit. I hope the bitch goes broke trying to stay in with her only intention to ruin the Democrats chances of beating her crusty old buddy Maccooon.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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Hillary better make the Democratic Ticket or I am voting for McCain.
Obama is a fucking racist so I am glad Hillary got Pen.
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This isn't over untill the convention, no matter what happened today, Hillary isn't going to quit and neither is Obama. This election is going to come to super delegates and the party heads.
In the end who ever loses is going to say the other stole the election. Unless these two make up, and become friends, this election is somewhat over.
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I really want to vote for McCain... But I don't think he's gonna make it to the white house. I think he'll die before then.
But no way in hell am I voting for Hillary.Herschel Savage
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I'm waiting to hear it from J Stewart and Colbert to form my opinion ................. LOL
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This win for Clinton was like a foregone conclusion and Obama lost another big state. Only winning in the large urban areas by and large once again.
Clinton has a very powerful argument to remaining superdelegates, and a more legitimate shot than ever.
Big winner was the Democratic party, picking up over 300,000 new registered voters, some who flipped from Rep. to Dem, causing not only a gain in dems, but a loss in pubes.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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You guys are funny
they planned this
they make a lot of news in their battle, only to come together under one ticket with all the supporters they made because of the trauma and win the presidental election
At least thats my plan!Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Did Hillary win.. I been asleep most of the afternoon/evening
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I think we should add 'none of the above' to the voting options. I bet it would win this election.
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I rather see Obama win. I am sure it will end up being Hillary though with the super delegates giving it to her.
I don't see why you guys think McCain even has a chance. There have been a ton more democrats voting then republicans in the primaries.Comment
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finally someone that can see this is a big game THEY WILL BOTH BE ON THE TICKET!
Ed Rendell ( PA Gov) needed to deliver a 10 point spread and that's what she got..it's cheating but hey, I guess that's politics.
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Sorry ya do not goto a Priest that does your daughter's Marriage and Baptises family without hearing what that racist Reverend had to say.
That Reverend is a fucken racist and to tend a church that allows that kind of hate speech for over 20 years...
Obama has that fucker racist on Payroll.
Please.
Merely tending that congregation is an admission in agreeing with that Racist Reverend fuck head.
If you think differently you are entitled to it but kinda naive to think otherwise IMHO.Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 04-22-2008, 09:18 PM.
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OBAMA IS A FUCKEN HATE SPEECH SYMPATHIZER AND RACIST
End Of Story.
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I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
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I heard an interesting sports saying on the radio today that is appropriate.
"You can't say it's over until the home team loses"
In a 7 game series, if the road team is down 2-0, you can't go writing their obituary. Teams are expected to win at home.
So far both candidates have won at home. In this scenario, Obama has home court advantage because of his delegate lead, so Clinton has to steal one on the road.
It's not big news when the team that was favored by 20 points wins by 10 points.sig too bigComment
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You are completely wrong. Gallup just released a poll a couple weeks ago that said 20% of Obama's supporters would vote for McCain, and 29% of Clinton's would vote for McCain if their candidate did not win.
Neither has enough to win the nomination prior to the convention, and neither will. You keep forgetting about the Electoral College, and Clinton has the states that matter.Comment
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General election polls taken before the party conventions are meaningless. Any political pro will tell you that.
The same way that the national primary polls taken before the Iowa caucuses were meaningless. Clinton obviously hasn't won by 20% nationwide, even though those early polls showed her with that much of a lead or more.
If your electoral college argument is correct, then the Dems might as well pack up and go home because John McCain won New York, California, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Washington, Maryland, Wisconsin, Vermont, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
Looks like no matter who we nominate McCain will win 45+ states in the general because he won them in the primary.sig too bigComment
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Actually baddog, someone will have enough delegates to win before the convention.
All of the superdelegates are going to have to decide in early June.
Based on the current delegate counts and projections for the remaining 9 primaries, Clinton would need over 65% of the remaining uncommitted superdelegates to clinch the nomination, Obama would need just over 35%.
Seeing how Obama has been picking up, on average, one superdelegate per day since super Tuesday, and Clinton's net gain since then has been zero, it's his nomination to lose.sig too bigComment
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So tonight is the only night that matters? None of the other election nights we've had so far have mattered? All of those elections where he's won more votes and accumulated more pledged delegates.....the only one out of all of those that matters is tonight?
What about North Carolina and Indiana? Do they matter? Or is Pennsylvania the only state that matters and the other 49 are just wasting their time by holding primaries?
Delegates determine who wins the nomination. Neither you or I or anyone else on the planet can do anything more than guess when it comes to who will win in November and why.
You may think you know, but all you're really doing is constructing an argument based on your candidate preference.
These things change so many times and so fast it's ridiculous. The general election is 7 months away, that's an eternity in politics.
For a point of reference, consider this. The Iowa caucuses were 4 months ago, think about what the race was like then. Hillary was "inevitable", there was no way she could lose. Now she's making arguments based on ideas that require intense mental gymnastics just to follow.....not to mention the fact that the argument changes every week once they realize that last week's argument didn't work for them.
Who out there predicted that? Who, 4 months ago, predicted that Hillary would be hanging on by a very thin thread, behind in the popular vote and delegate count, almost completely out of campaign funds, and praying that superdelegates would break for her to give her the nomination?
Nobody.
And this has only been 4 months....we have almost twice that time between now and the general, so don't pretend to know what will happen between now and then, because you don't have a clue.sig too bigComment
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I don't know where that comes from but ok. I still doubt he will win the entire thing. I am still betting it is Clinton that wins.
I was a Ron Paul supporter at the start but now that he is pretty much done. The only choice left for me is Obama after that a write in. McCain isn't a republican he more like a fascists.Sad but true.Comment
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But Obama will have a signifigant lead in money, delegates, pledged delegates, and overall votes come convention time. The only way Hillary can win is by convincing a ton of superdelegates to vote for her instead of Obama. I can't fathom that happening. It would completely alienate Obama voters and the Democratic party would lose the black vote for the next 30 years. McCain would win the thing in a massive landslide. They'd also lose a lot of close Congressional races that people would vote Republican out of spite.
The Democratic Party is pretty fucking stupid, but I can't fathom they'd be that stupid.Comment
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You imply I pick and choose the info I want to present and yet you're the worst example of someone that does that... You talk about how Obama will win in November and then you say no one knows.. You're such a moron that can't seem to put together a cohesive argument... Nowhere did I say or imply that tonights results are the only ones that matter. You put it out there that more money, more donors etc. are the reason he'll win.. I was pointing out that the results from tonight indicate that that's not the case.
What about North Carolina and Indiana? The only thing that matters in those states or any other is the exit polls and what they indicate about who the core voters are voting for and how they will relate to going against McCain. Who, by their results in the battlefield states, has the best chance of eroding support for McCain and winning against him. Tonights result is exactly the type of electoral college, state by state election results that the voting in November will come down to and Obama didn't deliver even with all the extra money etc. He went into a state that favored Hillary (now change that name to McCain) and he had more money, more donors, out spent Hillary by 3x and he lost. He can't use the excuse anymore that the votors don't know him.
North Carolina, Indiana are republican states.. So in order to win in November, Obama needs to get the type of voters that will be voting for McCain... blue collar, religious etc... Tonights result indicated once again that he has a very hard time with those voters..
Pennsylvania is a swing state.. And he lost to Hillary even with his outspending her.. The Democrats can't afford "hoping" they'll win that swing state come November.
But hey.. Reality doesn't matter.. As one Obama supporter said.. "When I hear him talk he speaks to my heart"... Guess everyone will just have to "hope" that Obama "can" win...Comment
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I just think there are enough superdelegates who would understand that giving the nomination to Hillary would lose the black vote for the party as well as just about every newly registered Democrat this election. Sure they might lose this election under Obama, but they'd at least not lose two huge demographics for the next 30 years.
It would be great theater, but despite how stupid they can be, I just can't fathom them throwing their party off a cliff for Hillary Clinton.Comment
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