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  • seeric
    ..........
    • Aug 2004
    • 41917

    #51
    50 woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34515

      #52
      Originally posted by p1mpdogg
      they are. its a master card requirement for over 2 years now. just happens that ALOT of ppl were not notified apparantly.... but i highly doubt its affecting many sales.

      i am a lil concerned about the join page refreshing when you start to put in your cc info.

      that may scare some ppl away.. Rand any thoughts on this?
      I doubt hardly anyone is using this method to join either but what I find interesting is that people can find the cheapest option through this means. For example, say I'm about to join MilfSeeker. Forget joining through the join page since I'll be given the $39.95 option for recurring. Instead, come here:

      https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/view_pric...&useSiteDesc=Y

      Browse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.

      This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
      WG
      I play with Google.

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      • Rand
        Industry Vet
        • Jan 2002
        • 2663

        #53
        Originally posted by A1R3K
        heres the part i dont believe is right. most will agree.

        being that i am the one that sent that customer to that store inside the processors umbrella, i feel entitled to a piece of whatever they buy. this is not the case. they do not payout to anyone for anything that my customer bought in the store. i asked several times and was told "no". also, should the customer buy something else and like it better they may cancel what they originally purchased instead of rebilling off of the trial, etc, etc. you see where i am going with this.

        you learn something new everyday.
        Airek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!

        This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.

        Come on!!!!!!!!
        -- Rand


        Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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        • bigdog
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6964

          #54
          paycom is getting a lot of love this month from gfy

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          • Wiseman
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2002
            • 2990

            #55
            As far as I know this has been in place for a cpl years and is in place for no other reason then it was told to be done by master card for all IPSP'S to basically stay in buisness. and as far as needing explaining it is basically explained as ITS TYHE MASTERCARD LAW. simple enough
            [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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            • Thomas N
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2001
              • 973

              #56
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
              WG
              Its a good thing no one pointed it out on a highly visible board filled with surfers then! ;)

              lol

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              • Wiseman
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2002
                • 2990

                #57
                Originally posted by Rand
                Airek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!

                This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.

                Come on!!!!!!!!
                Break out the Hatchet! Someone is getting the AXE!!!
                [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                • WiredGuy
                  Pounding Googlebot
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 34515

                  #58
                  Originally posted by SwordFish
                  Its a good thing no one pointed it out on a highly visible board filled with surfers then! ;)

                  lol
                  LOL, sorry I forgot the audience here
                  WG
                  I play with Google.

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                  • artman
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 770

                    #59
                    are offshore processors like MVC, segpay etc required to provide a link to their processed sites too?

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                    • xxxice
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 5042

                      #60
                      After my world of warcraft thread I was not going to post for a few weeks but, damn. I had to say thanks for the information and no matter how small the number of sales it is the concept itself that worries me ...

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                      • media
                        Confirmed Moneymaker
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 9853

                        #61
                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                        Browse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.

                        This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
                        WG
                        This was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol
                        I'm here for the violence!

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34515

                          #62
                          Originally posted by media
                          This was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol

                          Yup, and this storefront is really a bad idea. I know its a requirement from MC which is fine, but merchants should have the ability to pick which codes are made public in my opinion. I'm sure MilfSeeker wouldn't be too happy if surfers found out they can join from this gateway at a 75% discounted rate.
                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                          • media
                            Confirmed Moneymaker
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 9853

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Wiseman
                            As far as I know this has been in place for a cpl years and is in place for no other reason then it was told to be done by master card for all IPSP'S to basically stay in buisness. and as far as needing explaining it is basically explained as ITS TYHE MASTERCARD LAW. simple enough
                            Wiseman, it's not the "mastercard bi-laws" that I have a problem with, it is the fact that there seems to be a point of failure in offering every plausible option in you price points to the consumer, which I do not think was part of this regulation with mastercard, from my understanding you only had to make more choices available, which would mean that you would be able to specify which price point for the specific site you wanted to have available in the paycom admin (this would be a nice feature) that way by default you could have ONE price option that is displayed for ONE site...

                            Not 10 - 20 price options that may have been set up for bonus mailings, or for cancelations of members to re-signup at a discounted rate, etc.. etc..

                            Too many options sometimes is a bad thing....
                            I'm here for the violence!

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                            • elitetec
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 4944

                              #64
                              store me



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                              • Shoehorn!
                                Die With Your Boots On
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 22872

                                #65
                                Originally posted by A1R3K
                                whats this store url trey, i wanna have a look at extreme paychecks and ragecash info.

                                i dont see any store links anywhere.


                                thanks.
                                Not sure if its been posted yet, but here is a URL.

                                https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/searchProduct.jsp

                                Enjoy.

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                                • Shoehorn!
                                  Die With Your Boots On
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 22872

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                  I doubt hardly anyone is using this method to join either but what I find interesting is that people can find the cheapest option through this means. For example, say I'm about to join MilfSeeker. Forget joining through the join page since I'll be given the $39.95 option for recurring. Instead, come here:

                                  https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/view_pric...&useSiteDesc=Y

                                  Browse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.

                                  This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
                                  WG
                                  I wonder how many surfers here have already taken advantage of that.

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                                  • Tom_PM
                                    Porn Meister
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 16443

                                    #67
                                    If your code is in the store (which it is) then you get credit for the 0.0035% of joins done through there. Correct?

                                    Then site owners should not be overly concerned IMHO, and should also be happy it's not a nice design ;)

                                    Why aren't ya'll asking for a special postback code or whatever to track joins through the store to see #'s yourself?

                                    I'm more curious than concerned.

                                    /lurk mode reactivated
                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                    • SteveLightspeed
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 7940

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by media
                                      This was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol
                                      I think my quote was more like "This is the only industry that pays itself to fuck itself."

                                      Still true.
                                      Abra-cadabra!

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609

                                        #69
                                        my concern here is as an affiliate . is paycom shaving sales from affiliates by offering them different signup options ?
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • xxxice
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 5042

                                          #70
                                          If I were to signup for a site I would take the $9.95 per month vs the $40 as well. If surfers caught on to this, as cheap as some of them are; it would not be good.

                                          If the store had the same prices as the site would be a little better but we are talking about a $30 difference per month that is crazy ...

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                                          • Calvinguy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 1752

                                            #71
                                            Wasn't this introduced among all 3rd. party processors 2-3 years ago?
                                            One more reason I am happy for not doing 3rd. party processing...

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                                            • KrisKross
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 5025

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Rand
                                              Airek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!

                                              This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.

                                              Come on!!!!!!!!
                                              The way I understood this is that if surfer signs up for another site from another program through the store, the program who generated the traffic/sale by sending the surfer to the store doesn't get credit.

                                              So for example, if Surfer Joe goes to join an Epic Cash site, follows the store link and joins a Ragecash site instead, Epic Cash doesn't get a cent for referring the sale.

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