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paycom and the 'store'?
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I doubt hardly anyone is using this method to join either but what I find interesting is that people can find the cheapest option through this means. For example, say I'm about to join MilfSeeker. Forget joining through the join page since I'll be given the $39.95 option for recurring. Instead, come here:Originally posted by p1mpdoggthey are. its a master card requirement for over 2 years now. just happens that ALOT of ppl were not notified apparantly.... but i highly doubt its affecting many sales.
i am a lil concerned about the join page refreshing when you start to put in your cc info.
that may scare some ppl away.. Rand any thoughts on this?
https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/view_pric...&useSiteDesc=Y
Browse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.
This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
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Airek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!Originally posted by A1R3Kheres the part i dont believe is right. most will agree.
being that i am the one that sent that customer to that store inside the processors umbrella, i feel entitled to a piece of whatever they buy. this is not the case. they do not payout to anyone for anything that my customer bought in the store. i asked several times and was told "no". also, should the customer buy something else and like it better they may cancel what they originally purchased instead of rebilling off of the trial, etc, etc. you see where i am going with this.
you learn something new everyday.
This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.
Come on!!!!!!!!-- Rand
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As far as I know this has been in place for a cpl years and is in place for no other reason then it was told to be done by master card for all IPSP'S to basically stay in buisness. and as far as needing explaining it is basically explained as ITS TYHE MASTERCARD LAW. simple enoughComment
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Its a good thing no one pointed it out on a highly visible board filled with surfers then! ;)Originally posted by WiredGuyThis is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
WG
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Break out the Hatchet! Someone is getting the AXE!!!Originally posted by RandAirek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!
This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.
Come on!!!!!!!!Comment
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This was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lolOriginally posted by WiredGuyBrowse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.
This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
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Originally posted by mediaThis was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol
Yup, and this storefront is really a bad idea. I know its a requirement from MC which is fine, but merchants should have the ability to pick which codes are made public in my opinion. I'm sure MilfSeeker wouldn't be too happy if surfers found out they can join from this gateway at a 75% discounted rate.
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Wiseman, it's not the "mastercard bi-laws" that I have a problem with, it is the fact that there seems to be a point of failure in offering every plausible option in you price points to the consumer, which I do not think was part of this regulation with mastercard, from my understanding you only had to make more choices available, which would mean that you would be able to specify which price point for the specific site you wanted to have available in the paycom admin (this would be a nice feature) that way by default you could have ONE price option that is displayed for ONE site...Originally posted by WisemanAs far as I know this has been in place for a cpl years and is in place for no other reason then it was told to be done by master card for all IPSP'S to basically stay in buisness. and as far as needing explaining it is basically explained as ITS TYHE MASTERCARD LAW. simple enough
Not 10 - 20 price options that may have been set up for bonus mailings, or for cancelations of members to re-signup at a discounted rate, etc.. etc..
Too many options sometimes is a bad thing....I'm here for the violence!Comment
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Not sure if its been posted yet, but here is a URL.Originally posted by A1R3Kwhats this store url trey, i wanna have a look at extreme paychecks and ragecash info.
i dont see any store links anywhere.
thanks.
https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/searchProduct.jsp
Enjoy.

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I wonder how many surfers here have already taken advantage of that.Originally posted by WiredGuyI doubt hardly anyone is using this method to join either but what I find interesting is that people can find the cheapest option through this means. For example, say I'm about to join MilfSeeker. Forget joining through the join page since I'll be given the $39.95 option for recurring. Instead, come here:
https://wnu.com/secure/jsp/view_pric...&useSiteDesc=Y
Browse thru the pulldown and find the cheapest option of $1 for 5 days which recurs to $9.95. So instead of paying $40/month I get a 75% discount for knowing about the Paycom store. Add to that affiliates won't get credit for the referral.
This is something both affiliates and paysite owners would never want the public to know about as nobody would join directly through the paysites anymore.
WG

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If your code is in the store (which it is) then you get credit for the 0.0035% of joins done through there. Correct?
Then site owners should not be overly concerned IMHO, and should also be happy it's not a nice design ;)
Why aren't ya'll asking for a special postback code or whatever to track joins through the store to see #'s yourself?
I'm more curious than concerned.
/lurk mode reactivated43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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I think my quote was more like "This is the only industry that pays itself to fuck itself."Originally posted by mediaThis was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol
Still true.
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my concern here is as an affiliate . is paycom shaving sales from affiliates by offering them different signup options ?hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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If I were to signup for a site I would take the $9.95 per month vs the $40 as well. If surfers caught on to this, as cheap as some of them are; it would not be good.
If the store had the same prices as the site would be a little better but we are talking about a $30 difference per month that is crazy ...Comment
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The way I understood this is that if surfer signs up for another site from another program through the store, the program who generated the traffic/sale by sending the surfer to the store doesn't get credit.Originally posted by RandAirek - Damn! -- Who did you speak with? I want names!
This is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. A sale, if one ever actaully takes place from the "Continue Shopping" experience, is a sale. YOU DO get paid for it. It is NO differenct from any other primary transaction.
Come on!!!!!!!!
So for example, if Surfer Joe goes to join an Epic Cash site, follows the store link and joins a Ragecash site instead, Epic Cash doesn't get a cent for referring the sale.
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