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Originally Posted by cykoe6
I can only hope you are pretending to be this stupid. Providing for national defense and controlling the borders are some of the few legitimate purposes of government. They hardly constitute socialism. Farm subsidies on the other hand are clearly socialism and are good examples of big government programs which should be ended.
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Whether it's legitimate or not is not the point. Military and border control are still socialized aspects of our country. I feel that education and infrastructure development are legitimate purposes of the government, it does not make them any less socialized though. Your opinion on whether it is legitimate or not does not change the definition of socialized (which is to place under government ownership or control).
I'm simply pointing out that it's hypocritical to say one thing constitutes socializing while the other is not. Republicans and Democrats loves socializing things. Republicans were strongly in favor of Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, and massive government spending over the past decade. Democrats want socialized medicine and more money for unemployment benefits. Both sides are socialist in their views, they simply disagree about what parts.
So argue about which candidate has the best ideas and which has the worst, but the socialism card is ignorant. The country socializes a lot of stuff. There are few aspects of it that are not socialized. Both parties accept it and want it (along with much of the population). This isn't 1980 where you can scare people into thinking the big bad commies are coming to take over.