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Do most people actually make any money?

04-10-2006, 10:29 AM

This may seem like a stupid question, and seeing as i am new and skeptical, but do most people actually make any money via affiliation programs? I know it may sound stupid, but when most programs have minimum payouts, and from my own experience i know, i don't think that many people will be willing to pay for porn - especially if it is a subscription basis as opposed to some form of pay-per-view.

From my years worth of surfing the net for porn i have never paid a penny - and i've got some damn good porn resources to show for it. Moreover, i've made it a primary mission to not pay for porn - so surely there must be many others like myself out there? If that is the case, i'm guessing they aren't going to be willing to pay for their porn - especially not when it's a monthly charge and they are most likely untrusting of the web, and the adult business.

Basically what i am asking is how easy is it for a newcomer (pun intended) to make any money in this market, bearing in mind minimum payout amounts (i.e. if i have $40 in an account with a sponsor who's minimum payout is $50, i don't consider that to be a profit, as i cannot access it - it isn't liquid)?

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04-10-2006, 10:39 AM

I make money

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04-10-2006, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by MikesTraffic

I make money

But how long and how much money did it take for you to get to such a stage?

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04-10-2006, 10:47 AM

i started in december part time and have made nearly 4k.

trust me, one mistake u are making is that you are basing your market research on you. just coz others say they would never pay for porn doesnt mean they are telling the truth

and the stuff about minimum payouts? well they dont wanna go writing out checks for people for a buck and stupid shit like that.

You need some good ideas to now get ahead in this game.
but trust me, people pay for this. boy oh boy do they.

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04-10-2006, 10:48 AM

anyway for that tip it would help me if you could sign up to the affiliates in my sig as they are top top programs which if you get a decent pile of traffic will convert well for you.

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04-10-2006, 11:16 AM

In 2000 i put some fucking links up, i got more money than i got working as manager. I quit working for a boss and make for 6 years websites.

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04-10-2006, 02:21 PM

don't feel bad with $40. it's still a start.
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04-10-2006, 02:35 PM

I started back in december, have maybe a grand invested (including my dedicated server i just got a traffic purchases + domains)

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04-10-2006, 04:03 PM

need help

Originally posted by MikesTraffic

I started back in december, have maybe a grand invested (including my dedicated server i just got a traffic purchases + domains)

well i started one month ago and didnt get one sale!
and my site is all my own content never seeen on the web before please help me out here what am i doing wrong?
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04-10-2006, 05:11 PM

there's no money in porn
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04-10-2006, 05:20 PM

i make a cool amount just from one site, and i only had since like february

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04-10-2006, 05:54 PM

If it wasn't for sponsors alot of our companies would not exist. With that said there is a tremendous amount of money for an affiliate to make as their overhead is much lower then a paysite. The min payments of 50-100.00 is set as it costs to send mailings out, write checks and more + the labour in itself involved.

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04-10-2006, 06:31 PM

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04-10-2006, 11:33 PM

maybe u need some more info about the industry
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04-11-2006, 06:39 AM

I've made 3 sales and 2 rebills during my first 6 month. Looking to earn more in my next 6 months...

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04-11-2006, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Jerseyboysvideo

well i started one month ago and didnt get one sale!
and my site is all my own content never seeen on the web before please help me out here what am i doing wrong?
here is links
http://www.realjerseygirls.com/

and for you webmaters out there join with us we offer 60% signups and 60% there after for life here is that link trust me i should of made money by now with the content that i have!
http://www.realjerseygirls.com/?m=webmasters

server is very slow ... this is not an encouragement for the surfer to sign up...

And the day you have a few members, it will be so slow that you will have complaints.

Your tour is " dated " .... show a bit more what you have : how many girls ... pics ... videos ... updated when ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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04-11-2006, 09:22 AM

Don't even start in the biz. just leave
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04-11-2006, 11:46 AM

i guess its harder for a newcomer to make a dent in the market, unless you have a lot of money and maybe a few contacts.
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04-11-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Zuss

I've made 3 sales and 2 rebills during my first 6 month. Looking to earn more in my next 6 months...

dont give up your day job zuss

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04-11-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Sosa

Don't even start in the biz. just leave

Thanks - i'll just go a leave the boards because you told me to then.

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04-11-2006, 03:00 PM

jersey boy, no offense your site is like it is from 1999, your site is shit.

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04-11-2006, 03:01 PM

testpie, if you complain at a minimum payout of $50 this world of porn is not for you, i would only complain at a minimum payout of $2000 dollar

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04-11-2006, 03:17 PM

I was skeptical at first, too, but I'm starting to make quite regular sales now. Given some decent traffic in the next couple of months, I'm looking at a steady income.

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04-11-2006, 07:05 PM

Be very very leary.

Just because a few people made a few grand , doesnt mean this is an honest business to get into.

1. You as an affiliate have absolutely no asurance that these people that you promote for will actually pay you.

Have you ever read some of their terms of service? It basically tells you that after you sign up, they can cut you off immediatly and funds being forfeited at their discretion. So while your getting excited by watching your sales increase, you have no guarantee that they will pay out.

This type of business is very dirty.
Companies will always shave your sales.

They hack each others websites, they file reports against each other.
Many years ago, yes, you would of been a millionare practically over night...Today, your just a fish in a tank full of sharks.

Ever seen these so called "WHALES" of this business? browse the board, look at the photos of them, then ask yourself: " do I feel comfortable in spending my time selling their product then relying on them to send me my sales"?

Most of the " big fish" are involved in many forms of fraud, one being CREDIT CARD FRAUD.

Theres no one regulating this business. They dont have to answer to no one unless they publish ilegal content.

2. Ask yourself " Should any of these sponsors not pay, whats the process of reporting/filing a report against them?"

If Google can literally take the profits generated of anyone that is involved in their adsense program without giving you an exact explanation.....what makes you think the sponsors in this business will be true to their word?

IF you want to get into this type of business, I suggest DO YOUR OWN CONTENT and stay clear of any of the services people here have to offer you.

Originally posted by testpie

This may seem like a stupid question, and seeing as i am new and skeptical, but do most people actually make any money via affiliation programs? I know it may sound stupid, but when most programs have minimum payouts, and from my own experience i know, i don't think that many people will be willing to pay for porn - especially if it is a subscription basis as opposed to some form of pay-per-view.

From my years worth of surfing the net for porn i have never paid a penny - and i've got some damn good porn resources to show for it. Moreover, i've made it a primary mission to not pay for porn - so surely there must be many others like myself out there? If that is the case, i'm guessing they aren't going to be willing to pay for their porn - especially not when it's a monthly charge and they are most likely untrusting of the web, and the adult business.

Basically what i am asking is how easy is it for a newcomer (pun intended) to make any money in this market, bearing in mind minimum payout amounts (i.e. if i have $40 in an account with a sponsor who's minimum payout is $50, i don't consider that to be a profit, as i cannot access it - it isn't liquid)?

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04-11-2006, 08:21 PM

Dork Jedi/Yucky you are the gadfly yo.

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04-11-2006, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by mazdaman

dont give up your day job zuss

heheh....I don't have a day job ;) Never had one...
Another sale today. Let's get this thing going

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04-12-2006, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by testpie

Basically what i am asking is how easy is it for a newcomer (pun intended) to make any money in this market, bearing in mind minimum payout amounts (i.e. if i have $40 in an account with a sponsor who's minimum payout is $50, i don't consider that to be a profit, as i cannot access it - it isn't liquid)?

Nothing worthwhile is easy. Building a porn business is just like building any other form of business and you have to realize that before you start. You watch a tv show that says porn makes x number of billion a year and people automatically think it's just money sitting around waiting to be collected.

Come up with a business plan. Learn the business, do research, try and find some mentors in the biz that will help you out. Find some noobie boards that offer advice to people starting out. Read some articles, there's tons of them out there that will give you a thumbnail sketch of the various areas of porn, tgps, blogs, freesites, etc, etc.

Just realize before you start that being an adult webmaster is a job, granted you get to look at porn all day, but still it is a job and you have to build daily, work daily, and work long hours. If you work hard you won't have to worry about those $50 minimums

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04-12-2006, 12:18 AM

I made money as soon as i started putting porn on my site... so er... i got twisted to the dark side ( i guess im a money grabbing whore) just wish i had more traffic so i could reel more hahaha163;hahaha163;hahaha163;hahaha163;s in!

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04-12-2006, 12:18 AM

hahahaha was UK pounds... i have no idea why thats banned here !

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04-12-2006, 01:26 AM

Yes, you can make money but it takes alot of time, dedication, determination, self discipline and last but not least......hard work. One key thing to remember is....."Whatever you put into it, you'll get out of it". Always remember that. I don't promote affiliate programs as you do though. I make my money through a subscription based website that I run. (Which takes much more time and work than most people realize.) One of the main factors in generating cash in this industry is by obtaining as much traffic as you possibly can. Traffic equals signups. Therefore, marketing and promoting your site (or in your case....affiliates) is very important.

Also, establishing contacts within the adult webmaster industry is a must. Two good ways to do this are to go to the conventions which are contiuously being held. Of course, the other method is through online communication. Learn the different methods of driving traffic to your site(s) as well. Learn as much as you can about SEO as it is pretty important as far as delivering traffic to your site from the search engines. Participate in banner exchanges with other webmasters, add your site(s) to adult directories, post free content samples to newsgroups, bbs boards, research as much as you can regarding adult webmastering/marketing/promoting, break out your wallet and purchase advertising from the well respected websites.... (because anytime your starting your own online business, you need to spend money before you make it).....Also, make sure that your content is content that people will be likely to pay for. (High quality content, exclusive content.) In your case, since your not running a paysite but promoting affiliates......test out a few programs to see which ones work best for you. Whichever ones do not convert, drop them immediatly and move on to the next.

As a result to the above mentioned suggestions as well as other aspects that I've implemented, I'm able to work at home as this is my full time career. Hell, I make alot more money now than I did when I worked full time outside of the home!

So, yes, money can be made but it has to be earned....and it's alot harder than many people realize.

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04-12-2006, 08:16 AM

No, everybody is doing this for fun
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04-12-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

server is very slow ... this is not an encouragement for the surfer to sign up...

And the day you have a few members, it will be so slow that you will have complaints.

Your tour is " dated " .... show a bit more what you have : how many girls ... pics ... videos ... updated when ....

thanks but when im on the server it is moving fast you prob when on when there was an update but thanks for the help i appreciate it..
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04-12-2006, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Jerseyboysvideo

thanks but when im on the server it is moving fast you prob when on when there was an update but thanks for the help i appreciate it..

Could be ... It is quite OK now

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

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04-12-2006, 10:10 PM

There is absolutely no money to be made here, we only do it for the fun...
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04-12-2006, 10:28 PM

if you start a project, don't give up on it after a few weeks, stick with it for a minimum of several months. most sites need time to mature.
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04-13-2006, 12:09 AM

Gaybucks a relatively small affiliate program compared to some of the big guys, but we focus on quality -- all our content is 100% exclusive and shot by us -- and as a result, affiliates that have good traffic are getting thousands of dollars a month from us. Of course, we also have plenty of affiliates who either send lousy traffic, or send very little traffic, and those guys don't do as well.

To a large extent, it all goes to how much you put into it and how good you are at promoting. If you can find good sources of traffic, and you have an appealing site that can entice them into clicking on banners or galleries for sites with strong tours, at least some of those customers will convert into sales.

Also, sites that are newer or less promoted will probably convert somewhat better than sites that have been promoted for years, because your surfers are less likely to have seen them, and are therefore more likely to sign up... but of course there are some sites that convert well consistently over time.

Our site Boysfeetclub.com, for example, is a fetish site that caters to guys with a foot fetish... it's a smaller niche, but for people with gay traffic, it converts insanely well, because there aren't many gay foot fetish sites out there, and ours is one of the stronger ones.

On the other hand, our site Boyfunk.com was starting to not convert as well last fall, because we'd been using the same tour for two years... so we did a complete overhaul on it, changed both the look-and-feel, and added a bunch of new models... and now it's back to converting extremely well.

You have to do the same thing with your affiliate website... constantly look at what banners you're using, which ones are getting clicked on, what pages on your site are getting the most views... and take off the nonperforming stuff and try new stuff until you get lots of stuff that converts well.

It may start slow, but if you work hard, have a good site and sign up for high-converting programs, you'll start seeing the bucks roll in... and then, as you learn what works and what doesn't, you can tweak your site and the traffic sources you have to improve your conversion rates.

Hope that helps!

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04-13-2006, 12:21 AM

One other thought:

Our experience is only with gay sites, but I suspect this will generalize to straight sites as well.

I notice that you only offer two prices, a 3 day nonrecurring trial for $9.95 and a monthly recurring at 21.99/19.99. If you're going to offer the trial, you should at the very least make it a trial that converts to a regular membership, otherwise you're throwing money away... very few people are going to sign up for a trial, and then go and re-sign up for a regular membership, but quite a few might forget to cancel and end up sticking around -- and enjoying the site -- for a couple months.

We've found on Boyfunk.com that a LARGE % of our members sign up for the $40 2 month recurring membership because it's a really good deal compared to the others ($30/1 month nonrecurring and $25/1 month recurring).

I would suggest something similar... offer a nonrecurring membership, but make it more expensive than your recurring one. This both encourages people to sign up for recurring memberships, and allows you to get a premium for the ones who don't want to fuck with cancelling. Remember, people are signing up because they are horny and want to beat off... so you want to make it easy for them to get a good deal AND keep coming back for more.

And I agree that your tour is a bit dated... when you get some time, ask around and find a designer that specializes in adult and ask for references.

In any case, don't give up... it just takes time to get all the details in place to make things work.

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04-13-2006, 03:39 AM

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04-15-2006, 06:09 PM

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04-15-2006, 07:08 PM

Hey, not everything I read here was true for me. I definately did not just post a couple of links and started making more money than in my job. It's not that easy. From my point of view certain key elements have to be present in order to make any money

- good content, means either something new or extraordinary. Every other college girl has a website showing her assets in these days, so you need to have a little more than what they have.

- a certain investment and determination, and knowing where to invest. A lot of people emphasize web design, I don't. I know of a niche page that makes six figures a month and looks like a kid designed it. Now guys, hands up, who of you slik designerss makes six figures with one single page per month?

- learning how to attract traffic. I am blonde, but I was lucky, I have my computer geek.

- getting to know all the internet scams out there. Somtimes you get screwed royally. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

- stay honest, don't con you customers or partners. The web is big, but if you start screwing everybody people will eventually remember.

As for the people who don't pay for porn, I know some poeple think because it is online it has to be free. You wouldn't expect the adult store giving you a DVD for free, wouldn't you? My mother doesn't pay for porn at all, does this mean it makes no sense to get into the porn biz? No!
There are so many people with a decent income out there who have money but can't afford to waste time. You probably had all the time in the world to wait until the blurry pic loaded, in the crowded Yahoo group. Another guy nets 10 k a month and rather spends 20 bucks for a paypage once a month and gets premium stuff fastly, instead of wasting his expensive time cruising for freebees.

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04-15-2006, 07:22 PM

I sure do!

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04-15-2006, 08:51 PM

Before I started in the bi, I thought the same way you did. WHO WOULD PAY FOR PORN? I did some research and decided to do a test. I did not have a website, but made a webpage with some amature pics I had collected over the years. Paypal was my payment method. I setup a chat profile and let it set in the chatroom with a link to my site within 3 hours I had my 1st sale. That made a quick believer out of me. I found a affiliate program and started promoting it. Within 3 weeks I received my 1st check.

Get a host, find a affiliate, make a webpage, buy some traffic. Expect to work hard and spend a little money up front. I have learned a lot from just reading GYF Threads.

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04-15-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by camuseeme

Before I started in the bi, I thought the same way you did. WHO WOULD PAY FOR PORN? I did some research and decided to do a test. I did not have a website, but made a webpage with some amature pics I had collected over the years. Paypal was my payment method. I setup a chat profile and let it set in the chatroom with a link to my site within 3 hours I had my 1st sale. That made a quick believer out of me. I found a affiliate program and started promoting it. Within 3 weeks I received my 1st check.

Get a host, find a affiliate, make a webpage, buy some traffic. Expect to work hard and spend a little money up front. I have learned a lot from just reading GYF Threads.

No shit. Good post but damned good thread too.

I've learned a shitload just by reading through this thread!

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04-16-2006, 10:15 AM

I want one too

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I sure do!

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04-16-2006, 11:33 AM

Getting in the biz sooner or later...

I really don't ge the chance to post here much, but After reading this thread I found I could not resist... We have been in the biz in some form or other since the summer of 1998. It started with adult hosting and then got into credit card processing as well. We we making over 200k a year by 2000 and by the time the dust settled after 9-11 we were down to less than half of that. Things started moving back in the right direction and then the 2257 stuff stated up... BANG, another hit to the hosting biz. Between myself and my wife, theres a lot of grand-daddy webmasters that have used us in the past.

We have pretty much moved the biz over to submitting galleries now. I really started submitting in 2003 and even though I make like 200+ a day I really feel like i'm wasting traffic. I have never succeded in making use of hubs and such to seperate the traffic into niches to get the most out it.

Heres a link some folks might find interesting:http://www.teen-hot.com/traffic.jpg

I am not rich by any means and I have a "real" job that pays the mortgage and health insurance, retirement and such. What I can tell you is this biz has allowed my wife to be a stay-at-home mom for our kids and also afforded us to buy our dream farm.

Do I have any advice for newbies? Sure I do... get the ball rolling. I started by using copy of agp to make a thumb tgp full of hosted to grab the overflow and 404 plus I traded some traffic. Pick a few sponsors that convert really well and rebill even better... thats easier to say than do, but if I had to pick a couple to satrt with, they would be sites like ftv, lady sonia, spooky, hegre, femjoy. I am sure theres gonna be plenty of other folks that have better ideas but those are good to start with. As for hosting, just ask on here and you'll get plenty of offers. I am not telling my hosting companies just so you know I'm not pushing my own shit.

I am just a minow in the big bad ocean man, I don't know shit compared to the big boys on here... My big regret is not starting this submission thing 5 years earlier

OK, you can now return to your regular programming.

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04-16-2006, 11:40 AM

heh, hot damn hotlinking script

you'll need to copy/paste to see that link until I add the gfy domains to the script. sorry folks

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04-16-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by mazdaman

jersey boy, no offense your site is like it is from 1999, your site is shit.

no offense taken but it is funny people have mixed reviews
a few guys said it looked great well anyway i didnt create it this was a guy from from xxxwebhosting any one ever use these guys?
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04-16-2006, 06:10 PM

Nice guide. Bump it up.

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04-16-2006, 06:24 PM

bump........

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04-17-2006, 02:26 AM

to make money you gotta spend some money some website i guess are lucky and starting selling overnight and some just take some time i beilve any site can make cash as long as its decent you just need to put in the work. I have been working on nothing but content and hardlinks and getting peoples opinions and improving my site as it goes along. Personally so far i think my site turned out pretty damn good. Havn't made any real money YET but its comming I bought a package from http://www.etrafficservices.com/ package 4. I beilve it helped alittle bit to get the name out. my pacakge deal is up and iam getting over 180 hits a day not to bad for only 2 weeks old. Another good place to check is http://www.adbrite.com/mb/dir.php?a=&search= get content, hardlinks, do banner exchanges w/e just get that site out there so peoples know about it. PORN SELLS

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