VEROTEL or PAYCOM ??? that is the question!

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  • SwirlsGirl
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2006
    • 2067

    #1

    VEROTEL or PAYCOM ??? that is the question!

    If you were forced into a corner and had to choos between paycom and Verotel who would you choose and why?
    Love to hear some thoughts.
    SwirlsGirl
  • Validus
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 4012

    #2
    I would choose Paycom... then again... I don't really know Verotel. I just know I got a good contact at paycom...

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    • Kimmykim
      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
      • Jun 2001
      • 16015

      #3
      There is no question here.

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      • Deej
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        • Jun 2005
        • 24386

        #4
        Originally posted by Kimmykim
        There is no question here.
        KK has spoken....

        Paycom is liked by old schoolers...

        Verotel....no info on them except they are out to do business...

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        • CHMOD
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          • Jun 2003
          • 1697

          #5
          Originally posted by Kimmykim
          There is no question here.
          I guess she is very pleased with your answer. It's so clear.

          What an idiot you are. Why don't you stop playing hot shot and try to grow up a bit ?
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          • SwirlsGirl
            So Fucking Banned
            • Feb 2006
            • 2067

            #6
            Thanks guys! I would like to keep both, I have had good results with Verotel, but according to paycom they cannot be used in conjunction with Verotel. Makes no sense to me, but who am I to argue with their policies.
            SwirlsGirl

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            • DaddyHalbucks
              A freakin' legend!
              • Feb 2004
              • 18975

              #7
              Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
              Thanks guys! I would like to keep both, I have had good results with Verotel, but according to paycom they cannot be used in conjunction with Verotel. Makes no sense to me, but who am I to argue with their policies.
              SwirlsGirl

              PayCom is a US company, if that makes a difference.
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              • gooddomains
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2003
                • 10127

                #8
                where are you located?

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                • SwirlsGirl
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 2067

                  #9
                  We are located in the U.S.
                  SwirlsGirl

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                  • YDG
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 1614

                    #10
                    Paycom would be the choice of those 2.
                    But why is CCBill out of the running?
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                    • seven
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                      • Apr 2002
                      • 2697

                      #11
                      definitely paycom. verotel script makes it easy for hackers to add user/pass to your passfile. most of the time verotel script will fail to remove an user upon expiry of membership so he's granted a lifetime membership at your site until someone cracks that username in which case your password protection script removes that username for you and unless ofcourse your passfile is so small that you can manually add/delete user/passes everyday
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                      • directfiesta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 30184

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                        Thanks guys! I would like to keep both, I have had good results with Verotel, but according to paycom they cannot be used in conjunction with Verotel. Makes no sense to me, but who am I to argue with their policies.
                        SwirlsGirl
                        Because you cannot process VISA in 2 different regions ....

                        Rules of Visa USA ( and maybe Intl also ).

                        You want both ... create a mirror site, or geoip page, or ... be creatve.
                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                        • Kimmykim
                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 16015

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CHMOD
                          I guess she is very pleased with your answer. It's so clear.

                          What an idiot you are. Why don't you stop playing hot shot and try to grow up a bit ?
                          Why don't you mind your own business if you don't like my answer? Paycom has been around forever, and while they did occasionally have issues years ago, their track record for payments is spot on for the last few years.

                          Of course they told her she can't use Paycom and Verotel in the same cascade -- and it's a good thing for her that they did. You are NOT allowed to settle transactions for the same URL in different card association regions. If you do that and you are caught by compliance, Visa and MC will tell the bank to terminate all your processing.

                          I don't see her saying that Verotel informed her of that fact...

                          What an idiot you are. Why don't you stop sticking your nose into things if you don't understand how they work?

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                          • elitetec
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                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4944

                            #14
                            I would run to PAYCOM



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                            • SwirlsGirl
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2067

                              #15
                              Wow, thats a very interesting point KimmyKim, thanks for the clarity. You are right Verotel acted as if it was not an issue and that paycom was out of line. The reps at ccbill said that the cross border sales really were such a small and remote possibility that something would become of it that it was nothing to worry about. Anyway I guess I have enough info to make an informed decision, thanks to you all!
                              SwirlsGirl

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                              • Bansheelinks
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 6023

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                Of course they told her she can't use Paycom and Verotel in the same cascade -- and it's a good thing for her that they did. You are NOT allowed to settle transactions for the same URL in different card association regions. If you do that and you are caught by compliance, Visa and MC will tell the bank to terminate all your processing.

                                I don't see her saying that Verotel informed her of that fact...
                                Which begs my question, why do I see sites all over the place using Verotel of their Ticketsclub site in conjunction with US billers such as CCBill and Paycom?

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                                • Calvinguy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 1752

                                  #17
                                  Without knowing it I have the feeling these card regulations are only "worldwide" in the US region. I doubt Verotel violates the regulations where they reside.

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                                  • Kimmykim
                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 16015

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                                    Which begs my question, why do I see sites all over the place using Verotel of their Ticketsclub site in conjunction with US billers such as CCBill and Paycom?
                                    I can't answer it for you, since I don't know why people would take that sort of risk with their ability to process their transactions.

                                    I will not allow any of my merchant account clients to settle out of compliance, and they all know exactly what they need to do in order to be compliant. It's silly to risk your livelihood over something that is so easily structured as to be within the guidelines.

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