I watch Oprah every day like a housewife and I vaccum during the commercials. Her show today was about the way pop culture and porn culture influence girls to be stupid and become objects.
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Short answer: yes, long answer's conclusion: nope.
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No way - and how come that nobody ever thinks the same of the male models?Comment
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Girls ARE stupid and objects.
Oprah is a dirty whore.Comment
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I think pop culture has a TAD more influence over today's youth than porn does. But Oprah has an agenda, so it's obvious which one she's going to rag on more. Not to mention that the same one will get her MUCH higher ratings.Comment
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Well I would say that SOME porn does. You can't tell me where 3 guys make a girl gag on thier cocks until she pukes is NOT degrading.Comment
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dude....Originally posted by Mike33
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I think porn is degrading to men actually. Think of it this way. You are feeding off the males weakness when it comes to sex and seeing naked women. You're taking their hard earned money. It's even funnier when I look through my declines and a lot of them are for "insufficient funds" lol... that right there seals it for me. Don't even have $25 in their bank account and they are trying to sign up to a porn site!Comment
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Agreed. I would throw Extreme Associates and much of what SEG does into that mix as well.Originally posted by GatorB
Anything where the models are being belittled on screen is degrading imo...whether it's "Acting" or not.Comment
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I think Oprah and Housework are Degrading to MENOriginally posted by Mike33
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I have grown to love porn and respect the women who perform.
To me porn has grown into an art performed by artist and amateurs.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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who cares what oprah has to say
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Mmm comming from someone who has been on the other side of the camera too. I think that its all crap we all do what we want to. If you are feeling degraded being in porn then dont do it. Its about personal choice
And can we really trust oprah? Shes a media whore if you ask me.Comment
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I agree fully. I'm able to work from home due to horny men who keep buying porn. I watched the Tyra Banks show and there was this married men who was 20k in debt due to strippers! Now, strip clubs are not exactly porn, but even in that scenario that guy was a moron and he was the one being degraded ripped off. How can you argue that women are victims when their are men going into debt/losing their houses?Originally posted by abadfish
Horny men provide me with money for living expenses, savings, clothes. The other day I went shopping and bought a bunch of clothes, all paid for by horny men. I don't even show myself on the net. All I do is send traffic to sponsors and just collect money.
If you think that porn is degradig to women you are basically implying that women are the "weaker sex". This is not true! Perhaps some women enjoy rough sex, perhaps some women enjoy giving gagging bj's.... By thinking that women are taken of advantage of you are deciding FOR the women that she can't decide for herself what's pleasurable or not. For a lot of women it is just a job, but who are YOU to think that women don't enjoy rough porn or "degrading sex".
Women do no longer need to be considered the fairer sex! I don't need no man to tell ME what's supposed to be degrading to me or not? What you think is degrading might actually be enjoyab to some women, how would you know if you are not in their shoes??
If you want to argue about degradation, males are degraded too... ever watchg those porn where the men are are running around chasing girls pretending to be monsters, or interracial porn where black men are portrayed as monsters or whatever?
It's all an act and I don't care whatever party "looks" to be degraded as long as its profitable. It's not real, it's just fantasty so who the fuck cares????Comment
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Originally Posted by Mike33
I watch Oprah every day like a housewife and I vaccum during the commercials.
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ahahaha thats so trueOriginally posted by abadfish
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I honestly think that since these girls agree to do this, that it is in no way degradingComment
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Also, I don't feel women need to be "protected", because that's saying that they are weaker. I personally don't need to be protected from jack shit. I pay for my own fucken meal ( I don't need a man to pay or buy ANYTHING for me), I open my own fucken doors, I don't need someone to protect me from degradading porn... Who knows, maybe I fucken like it? Who are you to decide for me.
If women want equal rights we should be considered equal and on par with men, not as weak creatures who need "protection" to the point where something could be , gasp, "degrading" to them.Comment
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The main jist of the show was about how young girls lose themselves in trying to be like some of the young celebs like Paris Hilton, etc.. Wanting to dress like them, look like them, yada yada.. and lose site of the real self ..
Pink was a guest due to her song, "Stupid Girls" which deals with the same thing..
Porn didn't have much to do with it.. Other than a Girls Gone Wild recruiter that talked about girls and their choices....Comment
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Originally posted by Scootermuze
What's wrong with that? If they are old enough they can dress however they want. Because someone dresses provocative when they are going out doesn't necessarily mean they are easy or stupid, some of them might even be smarter/more successful than you?
What's even worse is ignorant men who judge people who have preconceived notions of women because of the way they dress. Paris Hilton doesn't dress THAT provocative most of the time. What's wrong with wearing cute dresses and shorts skirts? Do you think women only deserve respect if they are wearing a turtleneck or even worse a BURKA?
Someone who is strong doesn't let other people's judgements affect their choices. Wouldn't it be worse to dress all conservative in order to CONFORM with what OTHERS think is acceptable???Last edited by jackie1; 04-10-2006, 02:04 PM.Comment
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No. But if it is, then it is also degrading to men.
And fuck Oprah. She preys on the minds of middle aged women like a wolf.Comment
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Also, most people are so quick to judge Paris Hilton just because she made one sex tape... booohooooo. She is such a BIG SLUT now.
While most young men fuck hookers, go to third world countries just to go on sex tours, compete with their friends who can fuck the most girls, and much worse...
But of course men are eager to jump on Paris just because she's a female, especially one that is more wealthier than most men, and that's difficult for most men to deal with it. They can't accept that a woman with more money than they will ever make actually enjoys sex.Comment
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i think some of it is and some is not. It is all a matter of opinion and my boundaries might be different than my sister's so it all depends. Some porn i really enjoy and some i just can't watch.Rosalia M.
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Congratulations, young padawan. You are now a Jedi Pimp, the highest form of pimp.Originally posted by The Heron
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jackie1=Paris Hilton??? could be...Originally posted by jackie1
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they'll have a show about how girls are objects and then tomorrow the guest will be some dumb object famous girl and they will talk about how pretty she is or do make overs on "ugly" chicks to make them look like their "supposed" to. And the day after that they will have a show about poor people and oprah will cry, and then return to her mansion for caviar later that evening.Comment
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Yes I don't like the gagging shit thats out there now, it's too much, but maybe the girls like it , I don't know.Comment
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It's not about the PERFRORMERS feeling degraded. Feeling PERSONALY degraded is something else entirely. A chick could be pefectly ok with a porn scene depicting her being raped by 5 guys. That doesn't mean the scene isn't degrading to women.Originally posted by anneMmm comming from someone who has been on the other side of the camera too. I think that its all crap we all do what we want to. If you are feeling degraded being in porn then dont do it. Its about personal choice
And can we really trust oprah? Shes a media whore if you ask me.Comment
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lol this post is spot onOriginally posted by flashfireComment
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Originally posted by Mike33
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Name something that is degraded towards men. Are men's status in the world so concrete and sturdy that nothing can possibly degrading the strong alpha male?Originally posted by GatorB
Pls name something ( such as a sexual act/sexual scene) that is degrading towards men. Thanks.Comment
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Fuck, if Oprah says it's true it must be.
Just like that book she said was so great...
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Originally posted by jackie1
Very well put.Comment
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Lawrence Connor fucked in the ass with a dildo because he couldnt keep a hardon ;)Originally posted by jackie1I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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my short answer: Porn doesn't have to be degrading to women, but it often is.email: [email protected]Comment
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Don't get all pissy. If you think rape is not degrading then that's you. I however differ on that.Originally posted by jackie1
A man fucking a really fat ugly chick is degrading.Comment
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Hell no, if it was degrading they wouldnt do it, they get a kick out of it. Thre is nothing wrong with naked women geting sex..simple as that, its natural..on that note its about time I go degrade myself with my hubby ;)Comment
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I never said I didn't think rape was not degrading, I'm just saying that peopleOriginally posted by GatorB
are making to be like everthing is degrading towards women only.
I think I will start watching men doing fat ugly chicks and getting dildoed up the ass. Time to change the status quo and degrade all the men for once.Comment
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It must be because Oprah is never wrong about anything, ever.
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by that logic anything could be found degrading by anyone. a woman could find a scene where another woman is washing the floor on her hands and knees degrading.Originally posted by GatorByou don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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I neglect to see the people holding a gun to her head FORCING her to do it. She's there by her own choice. Models have 2 options, accept the money and do the scene or don't.Originally posted by GatorB
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There is that stepping on the Ballz with High Heels thing and guys getting peed on by girlsOriginally posted by jackie1
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Do you NOT read MORON? Seriously why do dumbshits reply to my post when they CLEARLY haven't read them?Originally posted by XxXoticI neglect to see the people holding a gun to her head FORCING her to do it. She's there by her own choice. Models have 2 options, accept the money and do the scene or don't.
here it is in case you missed it and I make sure you can see it
"It's not about the PERFORMERS feeling degraded. Feeling PERSONALY degraded is something else entirely. A chick could be pefectly ok with a porn scene depicting her being raped by 5 guys. That doesn't mean the scene isn't degrading to women."
Can you see WTF I'm talking about NOW fucktard? Can we stay on topic? Sorry if I sound rude but jesus fucking christ......Comment
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So What Your Trying To Say...........Originally posted by GatorB
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uh yeah i read where you backpeddle and say "it may not be degrading personally, but to women it is" is about as fucking absurd as your dimwitted retort. Why not cover ALL bases so YOU dont have to take an actual position on it. It's either degrading or not and it's ONLY degrading to the person the acts are being performed on. How does anyone have the right to feel degraded about what someone else does? The only person who has the right to determine what is or isn't degrading is the person doing it. YOUR beliefs aren't everyone else's unless you're a bible thumping christian or a republican and in either case you're wrong. A gay guy takes it in the ass and all men should feel less manly for it? Because one woman chooses to objectify herself and treat herself like a whore all women are lesser beings for it?Originally posted by GatorB
You might think it's degrading. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion but your opinion is not the moral standard for the world.
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no........“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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I love the old saying that says porn exploits women...isn't it the other way around? don't women exploit porn?Comment
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I don't think so..but I find some odd japanese porn degrading
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