if i would open a "non smoking" bar/club/restaurant in your town

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  • gangbangjoe
    Ronin
    • May 2004
    • 17693

    #51
    Originally posted by After Shock Media
    No that would because they ate some HEALTHY fruit.

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    • Peaches
      Old broad
      • Oct 2002
      • 13933

      #52
      Originally posted by After Shock Media
      What I dislike is the fact that some of us that live in a supposedly free and capitalistic country do not have the other option. You and everyone else has the option of opening a smoke free bar, club, restaurant, yet many of us do not have the other option. We can not choose to open a smoking bar, club, or restaurant if we desired to cater to smokers.
      Actually we live in a republic. In every location I personally know of (and that's a limited amount) it's been put to the voters and the voters have voted the smoking limits in. That's how a free government run by the people should work, IMO.

      That said, I still would rather sit next to a smoker than a screaming kid

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      • chaze
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 9775

        #53
        Originally posted by WiredGuy
        Smoking indoors has been banned here for several years now.
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        • gangbangjoe
          Ronin
          • May 2004
          • 17693

          #54
          Originally posted by Peaches
          Actually we live in a republic. In every location I personally know of (and that's a limited amount) it's been put to the voters and the voters have voted the smoking limits in. That's how a free government run by the people should work, IMO.

          That said, I still would rather sit next to a smoker than a screaming kid

          why?

          a screaming kid is plain normal, won't damage your body (Ok maybe the nerves a bit) and won't make you and your clothes smell bad (OK only if it ate to much and pukes all over you)

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          • Peaches
            Old broad
            • Oct 2002
            • 13933

            #55
            Originally posted by gangbangjoe
            why?

            a screaming kid is plain normal, won't damage your body (Ok maybe the nerves a bit) and won't make you and your clothes smell bad (OK only if it ate to much and pukes all over you)
            Just personal preference. My son ate in very nice restaurants from the time he was very young and my nieces are doing the same. They all knew that the minute they started misbehaving they were out the door. Many times never to return again

            I see parents bringing young kids in after 9PM and the kids are running around, screaming, etc. Very irritating and in fact, instead of banning the kids, banning the parents would be more appropriate

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            • After Shock Media
              It's coming look busy
              • Mar 2001
              • 35299

              #56
              Originally posted by Peaches
              Actually we live in a republic. In every location I personally know of (and that's a limited amount) it's been put to the voters and the voters have voted the smoking limits in. That's how a free government run by the people should work, IMO.

              That said, I still would rather sit next to a smoker than a screaming kid
              The majority is not always right and laws should not be allowed to be voted in that suppress the minority.

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              • gangbangjoe
                Ronin
                • May 2004
                • 17693

                #57
                Originally posted by Peaches
                Just personal preference. My son ate in very nice restaurants from the time he was very young and my nieces are doing the same. They all knew that the minute they started misbehaving they were out the door. Many times never to return again

                I see parents bringing young kids in after 9PM and the kids are running around, screaming, etc. Very irritating and in fact, instead of banning the kids, banning the parents would be more appropriate

                you are right

                it's all about the education.

                don't blame the little brat, blame the parents for educating them wrong.

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                • detoxed
                  vip member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 17798

                  #58
                  in my town? you'd be the only one there

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                  • digifan
                    The Profiler
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 14618

                    #59
                    Originally posted by gangbangjoe
                    omg

                    i don't want to discuss such stupid things right now.


                    but i never heard of adam and eve being thrown out of paradise because they smoked
                    Stupid??? I thought you knew that they can be addicts in the womb... but ok just promise not to come in my town
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                    • Spunky
                      I need a beer
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 133978

                      #60
                      I wouldn't open one..the clubs I go to have a smoking section and they sometimes out number the non smokers

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                      • gangbangjoe
                        Ronin
                        • May 2004
                        • 17693

                        #61
                        Originally posted by digifan
                        Stupid??? I thought you knew that they can be addicts in the womb... but ok just promise not to come in my town


                        whoever smokes during pregnancy should not be allowed to have kids.

                        AND:

                        why can they be addicts in the womb ? because the stupid mother smokes...

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                        • Young
                          Bland for life
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 10468

                          #62
                          Boston is completely smoke free...so you'd have no other choice.
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                          • MikeSmoke
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3241

                            #63
                            Originally posted by bhutocracy
                            Why, anything you say captain impartiality! Yes, because of your post I now know that when my eyes sting because theres that much second hand smoke in the air while I'm watch a band at the pub that really it's like breathing antibiotics and antioxidants! yay.. thanks now i'll never worry again because it's not burning my eyes and magically leaving my lungs pinky clean - It's actually the sting of the smoke healing my cataracts!
                            I'll forward your post to the non smoker bar workers with lungcancer to tell them their illness is a red herring and they aren't dying by proxy..
                            yeah, that's *exactly* what i said.
                            if you're going to post on messageboards - why don't you worry less a little less about smoke and a little more about reading comprehension.

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                            • MikeSmoke
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 3241

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Peaches
                              Actually we live in a republic. In every location I personally know of (and that's a limited amount) it's been put to the voters and the voters have voted the smoking limits in. That's how a free government run by the people should work, IMO.

                              That said, I still would rather sit next to a smoker than a screaming kid
                              Just curious hon - have there been any locations that you know of where people were given the *choice* of:
                              - no ban
                              - total ban
                              - establishments allowed to declare themselves smoking or non-smoking?
                              I would guess not, because the political agenda is to ban it.

                              What usually happens is that *some* places want to ban it, and then the governmental entity involved *decides* that's it isn't fair for competition to allow some places to ban and some places not to (since the pro-ban restaurants are afraid that they'll lose business to smoking-allowed restaurants) and so the only choice presented is a total ban.

                              That's also why there's often been a "domino" effect in terms of bans enacted - a city or town enacts a ban so the smokers go to restaurants in the next town over, the "ban" restaurants get up in arms because of unfair competition, and eventually the state steps in and bans it everywhere to "protect" the establishments losing business. Same thing happens across state lines, and then there's pressure on the states surrounding the "ban" state. When I lived in New England, I watched it happen just like it was a predictable lab experiment, first in the liberal towns around Boston, then in Boston, then in Massachusetts, and then in Rhode Island.

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                              • Peaches
                                Old broad
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 13933

                                #65
                                Don't confuse me with facts, Mr. Smoke!! ;)

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                                • MikeSmoke
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 3241

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Peaches
                                  Don't confuse me with facts, Mr. Smoke!! ;)
                                  Oops...sorry, it's one of my many failings

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                                  • edgeprod
                                    Permanently Gone
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 10019

                                    #67
                                    Here in Connecticut, you can't smoke inside.

                                    Like it fucking should be!

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