Boycott Canadian Seafood...

got a joke for ya:


Baby seal walks into a club......

and that's the punchline.

Ok your are in Africa you see a lion about to kill a zebra. Since that is "mean" you kill all the lions. Now there are too many zebras since ther are no more lions ot eat them so now you have to shoot the SAME zebra the lion was about to eat in order to "save" it? If you had just left well enough alone nature would take care of itself. Go hug a tree nature boy. Join the Green Party or something since you are all "I want to help mother nature" and all.

Uh, getting back to deer hunting for a second... a funny thing happens when people in my area stop shooting deer for even one year.... collisions with deer on highways go way up, as do the # of fatalities.

I guess it isn't all that funny, come to think of it.

One thing I find interesting is that someone will squawk and squawk about how they should stop killing deer, then one day a carload of their family members are killed on the highway and *magic poof*... they no longer have a problem with people hunting deer.

Okay back to the seal fiasco.

jesus you are dense no i never said anything of the sort seals eat lots of fish every day idiot..

there isnt enough fish to sustain the seals get it.. you can play the retard all day long but at the end of the day your just being a retard..

put 50 fish in a cage with a seal and he will eat all 50 fish and . get it .. he wont eat most of them then starve to death , get it..

Well sometimes human need to be culled too. They are part of nature as someone said. I never said stop hunting deer. Please show me where I said that. I said do not use the EXCUSE that you are "helping" the deer. I have 10X the respect for a hunter that flat out says "I like killin stuff fer fun" than I do some idiot that says "I'm helping the deer". Yeah I'm sure the deer apreciates his "help".

By the way I live in an area that is very heavily populated with deer, In the 13 years I have been here I have NEVER hit a deer or even come close. It's called WATCHING THE ROAD.

I'm dense and an idiot? So are you sugessting you are smarter than me. Well if that be the case them prove it bragger. Or STFU about your god damn IQ.

are you that stupid ? seriously , are you just being an idiot or seriously that dense.

we arent killing fish because they are mean you dipshit..

we eat fish, we want to keep eating fish , you want to kill seals and fish because you cant understand math..

I live in a very similar area (Ive had to shoot 2 deer in the last month because a SUV hit them on my street) and I find it actually very ironic that soccer moms (who seem to be the loudest in my area screaming about protecting deer from hunters) are getting killed left and right not wearing their seatbelts while running into deer distracted by talking on cellphones and not paying attention to safety - of course the sad part is the poor kids who die who didnt have a choice over what mom did. My solution has always been to allow tagging of soccer moms along with the deer

No fair!!

Im way to druk top save the sealions, - wait until i get back. Much later

I wasn't even addressing you directly. Gee you're sensitive.

Most hunters I know (and I know several) like hunting, but they also like deer meat. Having 3 or 400 lbs of it in their freezer every year is something most would give as a good reason. Me, I don't hunt, but I do like a good deer steak.

By the way, you're a fucking hero of a driver. Yippee for you. Newsflash: Even the best drivers can and have hit deer. They often come bounding out of the bush pretty fast, and if you're on a two-way highway with oncoming traffic it can be impossible to avoid at 60+mph.

You keep mentioning about humans needing culling. Great, lets start with you, k? Better yet, the next time there's a war where a few million people get killed, no complaining, deal? :D

you sem to be making a good argument for it.. sorry but you either need a reality check or to go do some research so you will have an understanding of the topic.. we arent talking about "eventual" extinction. we are talking about the pending extinction of an important species of fish that we can save.. your only argument is "let mother nature sort it out " , we are mother nature.. seals kill fish we kill seals ..

i apolgize for insulting you but if people act like an ass on such a transparent subject that they dont understand or have any concept of it pisses me off.

Something I find very amusing is that if the Earth were bombed back to the stoneage, you'd see these very same people (assuming they survived) out hunting. If they came across a nice fat seal, guess what? That's right people.... KA_WUMP....

seal chops and a warm coat for mr "Leave the poor seals alone!"

:D

just mother nature taking its natural course

Crap - the Atlantic Cod is endangered on the one fishery you are talking about because of human over fishing.

There are a number of fisheries where the Atlantic Cod is threatened, and they have nothing to do with Seals. Its all to do with human over fishing.

The heavily managed areas aroud Iceland for example are still capable of sustaining the major populations around them.

The Atlanic Cod is in ZERO danger of extiction.

Like all animals on the planet it has problems in areas of high human exploitation.

Smokey your argument holds a lot of logic, it is based on facts and interpretation of fact so any of us not concerned with semantics will see it.

They are saying "we are helping" because they are HELPING in the RECOVERY from the "DAMAGE" that WE did. I do not exactly believe all the hype that these experts spew at us though about our footprint here. We have seen the lack of scientific method many many many times in all sorts of claims. For instance , what do you think happens when a volcano erupts? It spews chemicals simular to those found in your car exhaust into the atmosphere. Volcanoes have been doing this for centuries now, but HUMANS caused the ozone hole..... or was it perhaps that we only became aware of anything of the sort at that point. Not saying we have not destroyed some things, just saying maybe we are not as powerful as we think. Elephants for example are a part of nature but VERY destructive in it.
Weither our fishing habits caused a cod problem or not, weither our killing the seals at the same rate and then letting bleeding heart peta types stop it caused a problem or not, the experts feel that we should now step in with this and so that is what was done on THEIR call, not the bloodthirst of humans. The people who made the call are the ones who watched the populations NOT the "evil" hunters here.

Humans balance themselves through murder, stupidity, poverty and the spread of STDs, maybe not fast enough as far as some of you are concerned but balance none the less.

OK enough of the "". Look I am the top of the food chain, I eat animals and plants alike. Animals must die so that I and my species can remain here and dominate the planet and trust me if I go out and kill animals to eat it is not going to be as clean and efficient as the corporations are doing it, and nature SURE as hell is not doing it on any scale as "humane" as companies do it, but I the argument is it is OK for them but not for us. I likewise am not going to pay for the careful slaughter of those animals, I am not going to pay for those animals to be killed in a more expensive way because it is not good for me.

So you want someone to come out with it for semantics sake? Fine. Animals will die so that I can survive because I am of the chosen species here. When comparing the suffering of a life form outside of my species with that of myself or others of the species, no amount of pain and suffering on the parts of those animals during the process of killing them will effect my wish for myself and my species to survive off of their nurturing meat or the lower economic drain because of it. I care about people more than I care about animals, THIS is what makes me HUMANE, anything else to me is just silly.... humane to animals at the economic sufferage of my fellow man, let me stop before I cross over into being rude.

BTW I breed multiple fish, have saved and raised multiple mammals, amphibians and reptiles. Most wild caught animals that were injured were returned to nature after healing, those that did not were not able to because of death. I tend to buy animals from shops that buy from breeders and not companies that sell wild caught animals. I do not kill non pest insects, opting to release them back outdoors if I can do so. So I am not an animal hater.

yes i pointed this out earlier in the thread. and a link to details so you can learn the facts about it.

i dont disagree , we caused it , the seals will finish it off.

zero danger because we have seal culls if we didnt ( hence this thread ) it would become reality.

There are 2 sides of every story, but I definitely vote for the seals. I love them, I think that they are beautiful animals, and when they are little, they are so cute and fuzzy and adorable!

although i should have clarified that extinction didnt mean the whole species , just the species in that area. i kind of overstepped the boundary on that one..

heh well we cant hate you for loving stuff , but baby cod are pretty cute too. dont playa hate the cod now. cod have rights too.

ok, I know that my statement above sounded very "dumb blonde", but what I mean is that I don't think decimating the seals like that is fair. They are intelligent animals (plus cute and fuzzy, I maintain my opinion!), and, sorry Smokey, but if I had to vote for one species or the other, I would vote for the seals.

but the thing is you can vote to keep both , you dont have to vote for one.. i like cute seals AND cute cod..

nobody is "decimating" the seals , just keeping the numbers at a more resonable number its like 1/3 of a million out of over 5 million

Smokey, 1/3 of a million is 15% of the seal population. There are over 1 billion chinese people... 15% of that is 150 million chinese people... should we start clubbing them?

and chinese people are not even cute or fuzzy!

why would you pick chinese people to club ?

i fail to see the correlation .. seals arent are own race.. if you were to ask me if it were smart for seals to kill 15% of other seals i would say no , but in the end i would like to outlast seals not the other way around..

If i knew any other animal was threatning another and i could help by eliminating 15% of them and that number was sustainable, yes i would do it..

if 5 million seagulls were threatning the last of the american bald eagles and they could go extinct would you kill 15% of seagulls.

ok, let me put it your way:
there are over 6.5 billion human beings... Humans are endangering the existence of condors, panthers, pandas, wolves, tigers, manaties, etc... how about 975 million people get clubbed to prevent those other species from being extincted?

(Now on the other hand, I saw a documentary about seals eating little penguins, and I was soooo sad!... because I like penguins too!)

seals are one of the few mammals that we actually treat with some sort of dignity and leave in their natural habitat instead of stacking them like boxes , like pigs/chickens/cows , and pump them full antiobiotics..

Thats what the haters would rather happen , they would feel much cosier inside if we caged the seals in warehouses , shot them full of drugs and electrocuted them behind closed doors where we cant see it happening

if they can learn to club us , im all for that idea !! that would teach us for fucking with them ( but of course since you and i thought up the idea we should be spared )

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you almost had me convinced, but then I came across this little statement:
"Although seal pelts are ILLEGAL in the US, it is the SALE OF PELTS TO THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET THAT PROPELS THE SEAL KILLING YEAR AFTER YEAR!"

seal pelts come from the baby seals (those fuzzy little guys that are so cute).
I once saw a video of a baby seal being skinned alive, and after being skinned, she was still trying to breastfeed from her mom. Nothing has affected me as much as that little piece of video.

oh cmon of course they are going to say that, pure crap.. the fisherman would kill the seals and the furriers. lol

seals eat 10 BILLION dollars worth of fish per year , how much do you think 300k pelts are worth ?

you cant let the silly actions of a few people dictate the actions of everyone else...

We aren't in the stone age are we? And if we were one could kill you and steal your wife and young daughters for their own purposes. Is that the kind of world you want to live in or have you advanced? If the world went ot shit would I hunt? Of course. It's not and I don't have to so I don't. I want food I go to the store or a restaurant. If the world went to shit and I there wasn't much food would I kill you to have it for myself? Probally. Would I kill you now because you are taking to long in the line at McDonald's? No. It's called CIVILIZATION.

Actually - that part has already started down the path:

http://www.stardem.com/article.asp?a...&paper=1&cat=1

So much for civilization

I am so not getting back into this one.

Last word - lol

I call bullshit on this..and I would like to salute all those brave american seals that go clubbing to Canada.

Instead of boycotting Canadian or any other seafood, it might be more constructive to quit pissing Viagra, birth control pill chemicals and prozac into the rivers.

Considerable river and ocean life is already screwed up with contamination - and this affect seals as well.

Over the last few years tests have been done on US rivers and the fish are on birth control pills, doped up in Prozac and high on Viagra.

Clean you own backyard up - else Canada might stop supplying any damned fish till ya stop killing them off with drugs.

where do you think that food comes from ? magicland..

So you will only eat food someone else has tortured for its entire life, pumped full of drugs in disease ridden conditions, and forced cannibalization..

That makes sense. god forbid you use the most humane method and kill wild animals that are in their natural habitat .

You should start a seal factory , stack em like boxes , feed them ground up seal , pump them full of growth hormones , and instead of clubbing them to death we will build a machine that punches a hole through their head after they are electrocuted like other farm raised animals

Yeah, but a fishskin purses look retarded.

But I'm just gay enough to want one!