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  • RRRED
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 6754

    #1

    For all you crybabys who only want PPS :)

    I'm getting alot of comments such as "We don't promote rev share programs, only pps". So I think we have something that will satisfy the pps webmasters and the webmasters who want to see checks coming in for years to come.

    If you can send 100 joins in a month, you will receive a $5 bonus on each sale. So for that 100 joins, you get no less than a $500 bonus. 200 joins will make you $1000 extra.

    Anyway, just passing that information on for those of you who did not know. Make sure and check out the new program, the custom tracking, and the higher conversions due to the overall upgrade. Karups is going to rock 2006 for affiliates. Mark my words!
  • Spunky
    I need a beer
    • Jun 2002
    • 133978

    #2
    Sounds good RRRED

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    • Pure Evil
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2006
      • 1737

      #3
      RRRED is hot
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      • WiredGuy
        Pounding Googlebot
        • Aug 2002
        • 34515

        #4
        Karups doesn't have a PPS? You guys should, you'd make a killing limiting payouts to just $35-40 and keeping the revshare for yourselves
        WG
        I play with Google.

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        • Morgan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2002
          • 10520

          #5
          revshare made me 100x more than any PPS in the past.

          once those rebills build up, man, there's nothing like it!
          PornstarPlatinum.com | TransErotica.com

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          • Remastered
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2006
            • 182

            #6
            Yeah, I'll make more money with Revshare, that's why the paysite owner MAILS the ex and current members, uses UPSELLS, uses CROSS-SELLS, ZIP CONTENT SETS, DVD STORES, TYPE-IN traffic from watermarks AND RETURNING members, all while I get ZERO CREDIT.

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            • Dagwolf
              President of Canada
              • Sep 2003
              • 23141

              #7
              Originally posted by Remastered
              Yeah, I'll make more money with Revshare, that's why the paysite owner MAILS the ex and current members, uses UPSELLS, uses CROSS-SELLS, ZIP CONTENT SETS, DVD STORES, TYPE-IN traffic from watermarks AND RETURNING members, all while I get ZERO CREDIT.
              You can't really fault them for the watermark when their "free promotional content" is being stolen from galleries and distributed all over the place.

              You can get around it by buying some content for promotion. You might not get more sales but at least you'll have the dubious satisfaction of knowing your sponsor is getting less.
              Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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              • FreeHugeMovies
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2001
                • 14141

                #8
                100 signups in a month to one sponsor? What % of webmasters not cash companies can actually obtain this amount? I would say less than 5%

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                • MrIzzz
                  If u touch it, I will cum
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22923

                  #9
                  karups/xxxrewards is the absolute best recurring prog out there, a person would be an absolute idiot to want to promote them with pps. omgg

                  when i first started out almost 3 years ago i didnt know my ass from my elbow and i was able to convert karups, talk about recurring, i've seen a steady check from them from day one


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                  • Karupted Charles
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 1662

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                    Karups doesn't have a PPS? You guys should, you'd make a killing limiting payouts to just $35-40 and keeping the revshare for yourselves
                    WG
                    You know your right. We would make a killing. However think of it this way. We do more business because of revshare. How many programs PPS did you sign up for do good with for a few months thne another new PPS site came out. It converts a tad better so you start sending traffic there. Eventually you do this a few more times and you dont go back to those first programs. Since we have been around so long the same happens with affiliates promoting us. The difference 6 months from now you will never remember the PPS program you stopped pushing. With us you still get a check 6months later for those signups you sent us.

                    The end result is in the last few months we have seen no less then 20 large affiliates start promoting us again. All because they get that check and it brings us back up in there mind. We are not here to make a few extra bucks today we are here to make money for years to come.

                    May of you know I just had my first child it is my goal one day for him to step up and take my job. For that to happen we need to think long term for both us and our affiliates if we want to stay competitive.
                    ve.
                    TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"

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                    • RRRED
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 6754

                      #11
                      Bump for luv ;) LOL

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                      • David - PG
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 767

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SPW Guru
                        The difference 6 months from now you will never remember the PPS program you stopped pushing.
                        Good point. Then again, I also remember a couple revshare programs that went down the drain and took all affiliate's rebills with them in the process.
                        perfectgonzo.com

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                        • PimpDaddyPants
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1581

                          #13
                          good offer thanks ill look into it.

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                          • Sparks
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 2466

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SPW Guru
                            You know your right. We would make a killing. However think of it this way. We do more business because of revshare. How many programs PPS did you sign up for do good with for a few months thne another new PPS site came out. It converts a tad better so you start sending traffic there. Eventually you do this a few more times and you dont go back to those first programs. Since we have been around so long the same happens with affiliates promoting us. The difference 6 months from now you will never remember the PPS program you stopped pushing. With us you still get a check 6months later for those signups you sent us.

                            The end result is in the last few months we have seen no less then 20 large affiliates start promoting us again. All because they get that check and it brings us back up in there mind. We are not here to make a few extra bucks today we are here to make money for years to come.

                            May of you know I just had my first child it is my goal one day for him to step up and take my job. For that to happen we need to think long term for both us and our affiliates if we want to stay competitive.
                            ve.

                            God damn, I need to signup for your program. Too many people can't think past next week....

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                            • RRRED
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 6754

                              #15
                              Sparks and pimpdaddypants.. I'll get with you guys shortly. I didn't see this till just now..

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                              • xxxjay
                                Tube groupie.
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13482

                                #16
                                PPS is overrated.
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                                • Ramos2
                                  Custom User Title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 11927

                                  #17
                                  rev share is where it's at
                                  blewit.com - Performance & Pleasure Training For Men.

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                                  • FreeHugeMovies
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 14141

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ramos
                                    rev share is where it's at
                                    Only if the members stay

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                                    • beemk
                                      CLICK HERE
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 20829

                                      #19
                                      so far ive made a little over $25 per member with xxxrewards. im sure ill still get more rebills too, revshare sponsors that rebill that good are few and far between though. i usually would rather have pps.
                                      I host with Vacares

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                                      • Ramos2
                                        Custom User Title
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 11927

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                        Only if the members stay
                                        hopefully keeping members is a goal
                                        blewit.com - Performance & Pleasure Training For Men.

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                                        • RRRED
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 6754

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ramos
                                          hopefully keeping members is a goal
                                          You'd be surprised how many paysite owners will outright SAY how they only count on the surfer forgetting to cancel for at least 3 months. And to make sure they can break even with the sale, they gotta add all the xsells and popups etc.

                                          I just don't understand why anymore. Time to evolve and use a little common sense.

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                                          • Screaming
                                            I can change this!!!!!
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 18972

                                            #22
                                            pps pays my bills

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                                            • WiredGuy
                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 34515

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Screaming
                                              pps pays my bills
                                              PPS is gonna make me retire
                                              WG
                                              I play with Google.

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                                              • Voodoo
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                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 10600

                                                #24
                                                PPS is for scammers, and noobs.

                                                :EOF:

                                                "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 18208

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                  PPS is for scammers, and noobs.

                                                  :EOF:
                                                  Explain. All sponsors that offer PPS are scammers?

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                                                  • BAKO
                                                    Don’t be a short Imp
                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                    • 18482

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Roald
                                                      SecretFriends.com
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 27910

                                                      #27
                                                      the karups memberareas are insane, who would prefer to promote them on PPS if the revshare can make you more in the end? I don't get it, did the ones asking for pps actually check out the memberarea? Thats what I do before sending traffic, if it looks good go revshare if not move on to another one or go pps. Easy as that imo

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                                                      • Roald
                                                        SecretFriends.com
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 27910

                                                        #28
                                                        oh btw rrred, what happened to our lighters and room key in Phoenix? ;))))


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                                                        • RRRED
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 6754

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                          oh btw rrred, what happened to our lighters and room key in Phoenix? ;))))
                                                          LOL we came back to the suite and gave them out as quickly as possible and got outta there.

                                                          Maurice doesn't know how brave he was by giving me the room key. Too bad my camera didn't work.

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                                                          • Snake Doctor
                                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                            • 13449

                                                            #30
                                                            PPS is the only model that will work for some webmasters.
                                                            For instance PPC SE guys could never do revshare, even if they made more per sign up with revshare over 3-6 months they'd go broke waiting for it.

                                                            I'm not saying that karups should start doing $2 trials and paying $35 per signup or anything like that, they've been very successful doing what they do, but there is a large portion of webmaster traffic they're just not going to be able to get.

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                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34515

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                              PPS is the only model that will work for some webmasters.
                                                              For instance PPC SE guys could never do revshare, even if they made more per sign up with revshare over 3-6 months they'd go broke waiting for it.

                                                              Bingo, revshare would never fit into my business model.
                                                              WG
                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                              • Brad Mitchell
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 9813

                                                                #32
                                                                I just giggle with threads like this. The revenue webmasters make with Karups rev-share is probably one of the best kept secrets in the industry. The site converts and retains. It IS the gold standard when it comes to member satisfaction. It is understandable that many who haven't tried them simply don't know and don't believe what we are saying is true. After all, every program *claims* to be the best on rev-share.

                                                                The key for everyone out there reading who questions this... Is do a search on Karups on GFY and look at the people that post about the program and how teriffic the rev-share is. It's not the quantity, it's the quality of the people that put their name behind Karups. Do a search, you will see many of the biggest and most respected webmasters and affiliate programs speak highly of Karups.

                                                                Those with a reputation of excellence to uphold don't just put their name on anything otherwise they risk spoiling it.

                                                                That's my 2 cents.

                                                                Brad
                                                                President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                • GatorB
                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 18208

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                  PPS is the only model that will work for some webmasters.
                                                                  For instance PPC SE guys could never do revshare, even if they made more per sign up with revshare over 3-6 months they'd go broke waiting for it.

                                                                  I'm not saying that karups should start doing $2 trials and paying $35 per signup or anything like that, they've been very successful doing what they do, but there is a large portion of webmaster traffic they're just not going to be able to get.

                                                                  Yep. if I spent for the sake of simplicity $1000 a week promting a revshare program and I could make TWICE the profit as a PPS program, but it took me a year to doit well I'd have to have several month of funding available at once until the money started rolling in.

                                                                  If I spend $1000 a week on a PPS program and I make $2000 well I know the outcome right there. If I only make $1000 I know I need to swtich programs. with reveshare you never now for sure because you MIGHT make more "later" you might not. Google and the bill collectors want my money NOW not 2 years down the road.

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                                                                  • RRRED
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 6754

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                    I just giggle with threads like this. The revenue webmasters make with Karups rev-share is probably one of the best kept secrets in the industry. The site converts and retains. It IS the gold standard when it comes to member satisfaction. It is understandable that many who haven't tried them simply don't know and don't believe what we are saying is true. After all, every program *claims* to be the best on rev-share.

                                                                    The key for everyone out there reading who questions this... Is do a search on Karups on GFY and look at the people that post about the program and how teriffic the rev-share is. It's not the quantity, it's the quality of the people that put their name behind Karups. Do a search, you will see many of the biggest and most respected webmasters and affiliate programs speak highly of Karups.

                                                                    Those with a reputation of excellence to uphold don't just put their name on anything otherwise they risk spoiling it.

                                                                    That's my 2 cents.

                                                                    Brad
                                                                    Great post Brad!! Thanks!

                                                                    If you click on "KarupsPC pictures" on the tour towards the right hand side of the tour, http://www3.karupspc.com/67053892/new.php? you can go see how much content was added last week. 10 HUGE picture sets and two full length videos 5 days a week.

                                                                    Charlie was telling me today the schedule. Two days updating, one day off (to handpick some more models etc), two days updating, one day off etc.. Now how many site owners are actually EXHAUSTED from updating their sites so much and so often. The add more content in one week than a majority of sites add in a full year. And that is a fact.

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                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                      • 13449

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by RRRED
                                                                      Great post Brad!! Thanks!

                                                                      If you click on "KarupsPC pictures" on the tour towards the right hand side of the tour, http://www3.karupspc.com/67053892/new.php? you can go see how much content was added last week. 10 HUGE picture sets and two full length videos 5 days a week.

                                                                      Charlie was telling me today the schedule. Two days updating, one day off (to handpick some more models etc), two days updating, one day off etc.. Now how many site owners are actually EXHAUSTED from updating their sites so much and so often. The add more content in one week than a majority of sites add in a full year. And that is a fact.
                                                                      I agree that it's a great product that undoubtedly has great retention, but that doesn't change the fact that revshare just doesn't work with alot of people's business model.

                                                                      Personally I like revshare, and 90% of my revenue comes from revshare programs, but there are alot of people that it just won't work for.

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                                                                      • MrPinks
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 1767

                                                                        #36
                                                                        RRRED,

                                                                        I tried to reply to an email you just sent me and it bounced back. Anyways, I have some reviews for your sites that will be posted in the next week.

                                                                        MrPinks.com

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                                                                        • justsexxx
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 13723

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Karups rocks indeed. Only a few revshare sites can compete with it.

                                                                          I should try them again now they added more features and extra billing options actually....On my TODO
                                                                          Questions?

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                                                                          • RRRED
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 6754

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by MrPinks
                                                                            RRRED,

                                                                            I tried to reply to an email you just sent me and it bounced back. Anyways, I have some reviews for your sites that will be posted in the next week.

                                                                            MrPinks.com
                                                                            EEsh!! Yes I realized that today and was going to contact you. It's fixed!

                                                                            Hey Andre, I just found out today that since the new merchant account, sales have went up HUGE! And get this! Since the cascading, CCbill sales have went up EVEN MORE HUGER! That is no joke. Kewl eh?
                                                                            Last edited by Eric; 04-13-2006, 02:08 PM.

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                                                                            • justsexxx
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 13723

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by RRRED
                                                                              EEsh!! Yes I realized that today and was going to contact you. It's fixed!

                                                                              Hey Andre, I just found out today that since the new merchant account, sales have went up HUGE! And get this! Since the cascading, CCbill sales have went up EVEN HUGER! That is no joke. Kewl eh?
                                                                              Check ICQ
                                                                              Last edited by Eric; 04-13-2006, 02:13 PM.
                                                                              Questions?

                                                                              ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                              • Brad Mitchell
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                • 9813

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                I agree that it's a great product that undoubtedly has great retention, but that doesn't change the fact that revshare just doesn't work with alot of people's business model.

                                                                                Personally I like revshare, and 90% of my revenue comes from revshare programs, but there are alot of people that it just won't work for.

                                                                                Revshare doesn't work with most pay site programs because they only recur for 2.0-2.5 months, on average. If people knew they could make 2x or more than the average PPS revenue with the right revshare sites (Like Karups) they'd pee themselves.. and be a little bit more patient waiting to see the rebills!



                                                                                Brad
                                                                                President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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                                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 13449

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                                  Revshare doesn't work with most pay site programs because they only recur for 2.0-2.5 months, on average. If people knew they could make 2x or more than the average PPS revenue with the right revshare sites (Like Karups) they'd pee themselves.. and be a little bit more patient waiting to see the rebills!



                                                                                  Brad
                                                                                  *sigh*

                                                                                  As smart as you are you still aren't getting it.
                                                                                  I never said revshare doesn't work with most paysites, I said it doesn't work for alot of webmasters.

                                                                                  To take just one example, look at the PPC SE webmaster. These people might be spending anywhere from $25-30 on google adwords for every signup they get. With the PPS program they're guaranteed to make their 35-40 per AND they'll get it in a week, before they have to pay the search engine for the clicks.
                                                                                  Even if they KNEW they'd make $50 per signup with Karups they still couldn't do it because it would take several months to realize that $50 and they'd go broke waiting for it.

                                                                                  In alot of cases, actually I'd say in most cases, cash flow is more important than profit margin. That's why revshare programs, regardless of how good they are, are never going to be able to tap into a large portion of the affiliate traffic that's available out there.

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                                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                    • 13449

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                                    Revshare doesn't work with most pay site programs because they only recur for 2.0-2.5 months, on average. If people knew they could make 2x or more than the average PPS revenue with the right revshare sites (Like Karups) they'd pee themselves.. and be a little bit more patient waiting to see the rebills!
                                                                                    Also just to be sure we're comparing apples to apples here.
                                                                                    Most PPS webmasters are selling cheap or in some cases free trials to the surfers.
                                                                                    Karups and programs like it don't offer trials. So while the $$ value per signup may be very high, odds are you're going to get alot less signups on the same amount of traffic than you would if a cheap trial was offered.

                                                                                    So to compare apples to apples you'd really have to compare a revshare with no trial to a program that pays per "active member" (which is really what a full month signup is)
                                                                                    Payouts on those are in the $50 range.
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                                                                                    • BradShaw
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                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 7840

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      8 years in this biz, only sent traffic to PPS. Call me dumb,
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                                                                                      • Krille
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                        • 2436

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        pps rocks my cock

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                                                                                        • Krille
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 2436

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          and brads cock

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                                                                                          • RRRED
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 6754

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                            8 years in this biz, only sent traffic to PPS. Call me dumb,
                                                                                            Well you would have made twice as much otherwise! I don't think you're dumb. You just do dumb things.

                                                                                            BTW I need to talk to you for 2 minutes tomorrow. When's cabo?

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                                                                                            • crazies
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 1491

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Karups put the R in RETENTION........ I have not seen a site that even comes close to Karups Retention ratio.

                                                                                              Good works guys keep it up

                                                                                              Send us your Mature traffic and let us convert it for you! CraziesCash Converts

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                                                                                              • SiMpLe
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                • 3221

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                                                I just giggle with threads like this. The revenue webmasters make with Karups rev-share is probably one of the best kept secrets in the industry. The site converts and retains. It IS the gold standard when it comes to member satisfaction. It is understandable that many who haven't tried them simply don't know and don't believe what we are saying is true. After all, every program *claims* to be the best on rev-share.

                                                                                                The key for everyone out there reading who questions this... Is do a search on Karups on GFY and look at the people that post about the program and how teriffic the rev-share is. It's not the quantity, it's the quality of the people that put their name behind Karups. Do a search, you will see many of the biggest and most respected webmasters and affiliate programs speak highly of Karups.

                                                                                                Those with a reputation of excellence to uphold don't just put their name on anything otherwise they risk spoiling it.

                                                                                                That's my 2 cents.

                                                                                                Brad

                                                                                                Yup - I have been banking off their re-bills for a loooooong time. Karups pays for my toys hehe
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                                                                                                • Wiggles
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                  • 14423

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  i like pps because most programs can't retain worth shit anymore, minus a few like topbucks/tcg etc.
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                                                                                                  • RRRED
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 6754

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SiMpLe
                                                                                                    Yup - I have been banking off their re-bills for a loooooong time. Karups pays for my toys hehe
                                                                                                    Let's keep your Backstreet boys action figures out of this

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