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03-28-2008, 09:03 AM

I´ll make this a poll too, but I´d rather hear details as to what it is about Americans you hate.

I´ll start (and I´m American); the average American I see while travelling are usually a loud mouth, totally ignorant bafoons. Their whole outlook on things are so ignorant it´s almost funny.

When chatting with yanks online, I tell them about things where I am, or in other parts of the world and they all seem to have the same ignorant retorts and viewpoints...

Me: Dubai is pretty nice, some grea hotels on the water there.
USAGuy: And a bunch of raghead terrorists, fuck that I wouldn´t ever go there.

Me: Thai chicks are hot, and generally nice to foreigners
USAGuy: I don´t like commie nips.
Me: huh?

Those are just vague examples, but I find myself surrounded by ignorance so much it kills me inside. I want to reach through the monitor and jam a bamboo stick with the words ´CHINKS ARE CHINESE, NIPS ARE JAPANESE, IM IN THAILAND!´

So if you´re one of those Americans who has never left N.America, or has, and still maintains an American isolationist attitude, don´t ever talk to me, mmkay?
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03-28-2008, 09:08 AM

Ignorance runs rampant on a world wide scale. I don't hate Americans, I hate all ignorant asswipes.

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03-28-2008, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Martin

Ignorance runs rampant on a world wide scale. I don't hate Americans, I hate all ignorant asswipes.

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03-28-2008, 09:12 AM

I like drones and people who don't think for themselves!

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03-28-2008, 09:14 AM

Do you mean Manny Jose Americans?, He is a prick!
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03-28-2008, 09:22 AM

i LOVE americans..too much hate in the world allready. No room for more!
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03-28-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by kmanrox

I´ll make this a poll too, but I´d rather hear details as to what it is about Americans you hate.

I´ll start (and I´m American); the average American I see while travelling are usually a loud mouth, totally ignorant bafoons. Their whole outlook on things are so ignorant it´s almost funny.

So if you´re one of those Americans who has never left N.America, or has, and still maintains an American isolationist attitude, don´t ever talk to me, mmkay?

What does it have to do with being American? You think Arabs, Indians, Europeans who don't have the opportunity to travel all over the world are any different?
You think a fucktard like you in Dubai is "smarter" than a hard working American who doesn't spend other people's money in luxury destinations like the United Arab Emirates?
Is contempt for people less lucky than you a clever thing?
What makes you think you are better than your fellow Americans who can't travel?
Funny remark about loud mouths, since you are presently acting like one.
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03-28-2008, 09:38 AM

I make American money, I drive American car, I have American dog, I love American food ... How could I hate Americans?

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03-28-2008, 09:39 AM

Other:

We complain and complain but do nothing about trying to make a change, and take it up the ass more.
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03-28-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by AAK

I make American money, I drive American car, I have American dog, I love American food ... How could I hate Americans?

You obviously don't listen to country music.
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03-28-2008, 09:42 AM

To the thread starter:

Buy a ticket to Cairo, and ask the Egyptian man on the street what he thinks of Saudi tourists.
Buy a ticket to Spain, ask what the Spaniard on the street thinks of English tourists.
Buy a ticket to Nice in France and ask what the Frenchman on the street thinks of Russian tourists.

I bet you will hear more negative opinions than positive ones.

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03-28-2008, 09:45 AM

Cross the border to Saudi Arabia and you will miss Dubai and American tourists, i tell you.

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03-28-2008, 09:46 AM

I don't hate them... and if I did I should ask myself: "Why bother?".

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03-28-2008, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by aico

You obviously don't listen to country music.

nope, I like hip hop, which is American music

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03-28-2008, 09:47 AM

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nope, I like hip hop, which is American music

It's the one where they lose their American money, their American Dog, and their American car, usually because of their American wife.
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03-28-2008, 09:51 AM

Stop the hate, Clink my links and make some money

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03-28-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by aico

It's the one where they lose their American money, their American Dog, and their American car, usually because of their American wife.

hahaha that's a good one... well , I don't think I'll have a wife anytime soon

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03-28-2008, 10:09 AM

I don't hate Americans. And why should I?

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03-28-2008, 10:29 AM

is generalizing all americans with a superiority complex any different than other americans generalizing the world with the same?
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03-28-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by severe

is generalizing all americans with a superiority complex any different than other americans generalizing the world with the same?

Very good point.

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03-28-2008, 10:34 AM

Show me a hater and I will persuade him that he is as close to be regarded as an ignorant as a redneck from Arkansas (and I am not an American).

I guess I have studied too much US history, system, met too many great Americans, visited too many great places and was also always fascinated by the tip of the iceberg of the US culture (and beeing constantly able to ignore the piles of shit culture that is succesfully exported worldwide), so very few could ever succesfully argue with me on this topic.

You can find idiots in every country of the world and as Gauss's theorem says, in fact, there will always be more idiots than alpha humans.

The key is to keep the idiots believe in something, find them a very mean and universal enemy so they have something to be scared off, so you can justify how you fuck them, keeping them under control and cashing in.

Honestly, there is very few countries that would be able to master this art in such a perfect fashion as US, but that doesn't make the people or the nation inferior.

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03-28-2008, 10:46 AM

I don't hate americans, but I do hate double-standard people, hypocrites etc. etc.

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03-28-2008, 11:16 AM

well i dont know what kind of Americans you all come across and I guess this is the wrong forum to pose such a question... you´d have to live outside of the US to understand how much more ignorant and close minded Americans are than most.

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03-28-2008, 11:19 AM

I hate it when Americans think that because you are against what they're government does that you "hate America". That's what I fucking hate.

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03-28-2008, 11:20 AM

You could have offered better options.

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03-28-2008, 11:21 AM

I don't hate Americans, but having traveled quite a bit throughout I am amazed at how ignorant many are of the "outside world". And I don't mean Europe or the Middle East, I mean outside their town. Seriously.

But that is not meant to condemn or insult, just an unusual (sad?) observation that probably is the same around the world - at least when you get deep into a country's interior.

But one comment on GFY from an American I will always remember. In a thread talking about traveling overseas, one guy said something like "Why bother (going there) when I can see photos (of these places) on the Internet?" Hmm. I truly hoped he was joking, he was not ... Still, I wonder if he feels the same way about sex?
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03-28-2008, 11:23 AM

anybody that "hates americans" is ignorant

hating an entire race, or culture is just retarded, dubai, yea i'm sure lots of bad muslims, good muslims too, btw, kman, you ever go and need a wingman let me know ;)

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03-28-2008, 11:25 AM

You dislike ignorance, yet you use an ignorant person as the basis for your disdain. Guess what..

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03-28-2008, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by xmas13

Is contempt for people less lucky than you a clever thing?
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This coming from someone who hates Arabs and Muslims.

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03-28-2008, 11:26 AM

When I recently went to Costa Rica, i got to see a lot of the ugly american syndrome. The hotel staff where I stayed was extremely friendly and helpful and most of them spoke really good english, yet I'd see some tourists complain about people in the markets, etc. not speaking english or being able to help them and I kept thinking "dumb ass, you're in a spanish speaking country, at least try and learn their language before you travel". I couldn't get over these people expecting everyone in a foreign country to speak english. Those same idiots are the ones who seem to bitch about people in this country that can't speak the language...

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03-28-2008, 11:28 AM

What a dumb fucking thread.

I do not hate American's I aint even American and I don't hate them.

I don't hate anyone.

Hate is a very strong word.
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03-28-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

When I recently went to Costa Rica, i got to see a lot of the ugly american syndrome.

Hahaha! I did, too. Some guy was bitching about everyone speaking Spanish. "Well, no shit.", I thought. He then saw my pasty white ass (I'm totally Blanco Nino) walking along and said 'Hey buddy, what do I have to do to get these people to understand me?' My response was "Lo siento; no hablo ingles." Fuck him.

People can be ugly, but Americans are used to the culture of "If I'm paying for something, you serve me." I understand that, I grew up in it. I don't, however, necessarily agree with it.

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03-28-2008, 11:43 AM

Mostly because the vast majority are so easily manipulated.

I mean when Bush first ran for president it was so god damn obvious that this man would not under any circumstances be able to contribute anything remotely good to America.
How the hell >50% could be manipulated to, or be stupid enough to, believe in his way of doing things is just a riddle to me.
The whole world was standing on it's toes shouting this to America and all alarm clocks were ringing loud and fucking clear.

The general natoinalism and glorification of their own country also seem to do it for me from time to time hehe
There's a fine line between beeing a proud citizen and a stupid self loving smuck.

Oh... I also seem to find a little hate from time to time when I see people who are not even able to point out IRAQ on a map and thinks we should make a glass cradle out of it.

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03-28-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by kmanrox

well i dont know what kind of Americans you all come across and I guess this is the wrong forum to pose such a question... you´d have to live outside of the US to understand how much more ignorant and close minded Americans are than most.

I am an American who lives in Europe and I have not found this to be true. Most Americans are basically open minded and tolerant of other cultures (The United States is a melting pot of many different cultures so this makes sense). The Europeans I have met tend to be very nativist and obsessed with ethnicity. The level of racism that is considered normal in Europe would be considered completely shocking to your average American.

Just go to a European football match if you doubt me. I have never in my life heard racist chants at an American sporting event, but these are commonplace throughout Europe (I was once on the tube in London and heard the entire train of Arsenal fans chanting "The Yids are going to Auschwitz!" before a Tottenam Hotspurs match because Tottennam is considered a Jewish backed team). Blacks are regularly mocked and subjected to racist chants during sporting events throughout Europe. The list of examples of endless. The idea that Europeans are more open minded or tolerant than Americans is absurd.

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03-28-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by polle54

The general natoinalism and glorification of their own country also seem to do it for me from time to time hehe
There's a fine line between beeing a proud citizen and a stupid self loving smuck.

This really ticks me off too.

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03-28-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin

People can be ugly, but Americans are used to the culture of "If I'm paying for something, you serve me." I understand that, I grew up in it. I don't, however, necessarily agree with it.

What is wrong with that, better than "If I'm paying for that, fuck with me" as its a credo around here..

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03-28-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by kmanrox

I´ll make this a poll too, but I´d rather hear details as to what it is about Americans you hate.

I´ll start (and I´m American); the average American I see while travelling are usually a loud mouth, totally ignorant bafoons. Their whole outlook on things are so ignorant it´s almost funny.

When chatting with yanks online, I tell them about things where I am, or in other parts of the world and they all seem to have the same ignorant retorts and viewpoints...

Me: Dubai is pretty nice, some grea hotels on the water there.
USAGuy: And a bunch of raghead terrorists, fuck that I wouldn´t ever go there.

Me: Thai chicks are hot, and generally nice to foreigners
USAGuy: I don´t like commie nips.
Me: huh?

Those are just vague examples, but I find myself surrounded by ignorance so much it kills me inside. I want to reach through the monitor and jam a bamboo stick with the words ´CHINKS ARE CHINESE, NIPS ARE JAPANESE, IM IN THAILAND!´

So if you´re one of those Americans who has never left N.America, or has, and still maintains an American isolationist attitude, don´t ever talk to me, mmkay?
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You've come a long way Kieth. A LONG way. Seems like only 5 or 6 short years ago you were still in the USA and giving people like me that same brand of elitist self-important 'merica or bust attitude. Nice to see you've gotten out in the world and met enough people to see things from the other side.

As for your question... hate? No, not for America or Americans in general. Most have been quite friendly in my travels and experience. There ARE those few though whose ignorance has flabbergasted me... but those are found in virtually every country. The USA, having a larger population than a lot of countries, naturally seems to have more due to sheer numbers.

It's when people start believing that they are better than others, or are some sort of superior human, simply because they were born in a certain country (something they had no say in) that really scream "I'm an ignorant idiot" the most, definitely.

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03-28-2008, 12:57 PM

God bless America....GO BUSH!
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03-28-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by J. Falcon

I hate it when Americans think that because you are against what they're government does that you "hate America". That's what I fucking hate.

Americans are the ones that elect the leaders of their government...so by extroplation you would have to hate Americans...now wouldn't you?

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03-28-2008, 01:24 PM

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Americans are the ones that elect the leaders of their government...so by extroplation you would have to hate Americans...now wouldn't you?

Your logic there makes absolutely no sense at all, since only slightly more than half the voters win an election. I don't even think that's the case, since popular votes don't win an election in the United States. Besides, we're not even mentioning all those who do not vote.

To say you hate an entire country is just stupid and ignorant.

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03-28-2008, 01:27 PM

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Americans are the ones that elect the leaders of their government...so by extroplation you would have to hate Americans...now wouldn't you?

Yes, but only if Americans support what their governement is doing at said time. But if they don't, then by all means people can dislike the government or it's actions and yet not hate those it governs.

Case in point: I often don't care for or agree with decisions the Canadian government makes, and there have been times when I've downright hated their actions on or during certain issues. That doesn't mean I hate my country or all Canadians or that I'm anti-Canadian.

I'd like to think I can voice some dissention when I disagree with something the US gov't does without people thinking I automatically dislike Americans.

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03-28-2008, 01:30 PM

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Americans are the ones that elect the leaders of their government...so by extroplation you would have to hate Americans...now wouldn't you?

But its comments like this that shows that many of you are willing to accept no amount of critizism for some of the fucked up shit your governmenthas done.

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03-28-2008, 01:32 PM

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I'd like to think I can voice some dissention when I disagree with something the US gov't does without people thinking I automatically dislike Americans.

If it's hard for us living outside the US, imagine people who live within its borders. You are labeled as anti-american, someone who does not support the troops, a traitor, a commie, and/or terrorist sympathizer.

Now that shit I do fucking hate.

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03-28-2008, 01:41 PM

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Your logic there makes absolutely no sense at all, since only slightly more than half the voters win an election. I don't even think that's the case, since popular votes don't win an election in the United States. Besides, we're not even mentioning all those who do not vote.

To say you hate an entire country is just stupid and ignorant.

I should have said the millions of Americans that are voters and elect the leaders of the government. And the popular vote does elect the leaders of Congress which is an entire branch of the three branches of Government and in addition the popular vote does elect the President (other than in an extraordinary circumstance/very close race) in the sense that the electoral college cast their votes towards the popular vote of their states.

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03-28-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by theking

I should have said the millions of Americans that are voters and elect the leaders of the government. And the popular vote does elect the leaders of Congress which is an entire branch of the three branches of Government and in addition the popular vote does elect the President (other than in an extraordinary circumstance/very close race) in the sense that the electoral college cast their votes towards the popular vote of their states.

Well you didnt say that. So that pretty much obliterates your argument that you cant hate the government without hating its citizens. And before you ask me, I dont hate all republican voters either, I'm simply amazed at their stubbornness.

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03-28-2008, 01:49 PM

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03-28-2008, 01:53 PM

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Yes, but only if Americans support what their governement is doing at said time. But if they don't, then by all means people can dislike the government or it's actions and yet not hate those it governs.

Case in point: I often don't care for or agree with decisions the Canadian government makes, and there have been times when I've downright hated their actions on or during certain issues. That doesn't mean I hate my country or all Canadians or that I'm anti-Canadian.

I'd like to think I can voice some dissention when I disagree with something the US gov't does without people thinking I automatically dislike Americans.

As usual the voice of reason. I do not mind critisism of my governement...I would be high on the list of being critical of my government...and I frequently make my congressman aware of my critisism. What I do mind is "bashing" my government by...what I consider to be for the most part...short sighted...unintelligent people. BTW...the leaders are elected to ultimately protect what is "perceived" to be in the best interests of America...and not what is in the best interests of any other country.

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03-28-2008, 01:54 PM

I dont hate them at all, but they sure are one strange constellation!

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03-28-2008, 01:58 PM

theking is right in one respect though. There are several here on GFY that have posted negativity about the US government, and that in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. But several of them load their posts with ridicule for the entire country and, it often seems, all of it's people, like all Americans are "retards", or "stupid" or something.

In fact the same sort of ridiculous ridicule gets thrown at Canada and Canadians too (and a lot of times it's by Americans, oddly enough).

Fact is no one who has any pride in their own country likes to read posts where some foreign idiot is cocking off at them and running down their country. I can't fault theking for speaking up against such idiots, I know I would... and have, and likely will again.

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03-28-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by theking

BTW...the leaders are elected to ultimately protect what is "perceived" to be in the best interests of America...and not what is in the best interests of any other country.

So if that means invading a country and killing thousands of people, most of the m civilians, so be it?

With that line of thinking any savage action can be justified. And also, what in your mind makes you think that the government is ever acting on what they think is in the best interest of America, as a whole, and not their own individual interests?

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