They asked me three times already and each time i told them im not going to show it. Its not like i under declared but its none of their business. Theyre coming after me like hawks 
Can they force me?
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They can examine your colon if they really wish to.
Right now they are asking, keep refusing and if they really want them they will audit you or serve you with a warrant.Comment
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The IRS has no power to tell you to do anything. Even when they tell you to pay your taxes, you dont have too. Tell them to go fuck themselves, and that whether you pay taxes or not is also none of their business.Originally posted by samsamThey asked me three times already and each time i told them im not going to show it. Its not like i under declared but its none of their business. Theyre coming after me like hawks
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Originally posted by Phoenix
bet that will go over well.. lmaoComment
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is this a serious question?
didnt you fill in your SS# when you signed up?Comment
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believe me, you always pay the tax man first!Comment
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If you run a corporation within the United States you had best pay your company taxes. The law clearly states corporations doing business within the corporation of the United States must pay taxes. The hahaha8220;half asshahaha8221; loophole is it doesnhahaha8217;t say a person, a natural person, doesnhahaha8217;t have to pay taxeshahaha8230; Lots of shit, best not to play in that area unless you are very up on what to do.
However, that doesnhahaha8217;t mean you have to let them bully you around. Get a lawyer, even advice helps. Then, you may want to decide if worth the possible fight. They can be assholes and corporations have no real power over the IRS.
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Very good advice in this thread - not!!
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i doubt that want to 'see your stats'.. thats irrelevant to them.
"after some investigation we noticed you made $534 the last year at pornmegaboobscash.com.. what happened with this income stream?"
The tax guy doesnt have time for bullshit like that.Last edited by mrthumbs; 04-07-2006, 11:48 AM.Comment
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Stupid quick reply really jacks up posts.... repost..
If you run a corporation within the United States you had best pay your company taxes. The law clearly states corporations doing business within the corporation of the United States must pay taxes. The "half ass" loophole is it doesn't say a person, a natural person, has to pay taxes; Lots of shit, best not to play in that area unless you are very up on what to do.
However, that doesn't mean you have to let them bully you around. Get a lawyer, even advice helps. Then, you may want to decide if worth the possible fight. They can be assholes and corporations have no real power over the IRS. ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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For fuck sake don't listen to some advice on this thread samsamOriginally posted by samsamThey asked me three times already and each time i told them im not going to show it. Its not like i under declared but its none of their business. Theyre coming after me like hawks
Can they force me?
If you think they are really "hawking" you - get an agent/CPA.
Same the world over - tax authorities can investigate anything they want and ask for evidentiary docs. Tho you may not have under-declared, they are entitled to evidence of this - including how many cartons of milk you consume in a week and how you paid for this.
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no because the affiliate is based in europe and they didnt askOriginally posted by Deej_E4A
cant believe they want to see the stats, esp as if they did get a warrant to see them they would be sorely disappointed. i hardly have any earnings with the affiliate but its none of their business anyway.
actually, if im honest, im just trying to save face
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I smell bullshit.
If the IRS comes after you they're going to want to see bank statements, not affiliate stats.sig too bigComment
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hrmmmmOriginally posted by samsamno because the affiliate is based in europe and they didnt ask
cant believe they want to see the stats, esp as if they did get a warrant to see them they would be sorely disappointed. i hardly have any earnings with the affiliate but its none of their business anyway.
actually, if im honest, im just trying to save face
yea that is a weird scenario....
theres a question...does the US have any jurisdiction with over seas earnings....probly a dumb question and im sure its YES....but anyone that knows the solid law on it, drop the info here....Comment
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i always love reading GFY advice
get a tax lawyer if they are contacting you directly dude...don't fuck around with them....
seriously, if you have the irs breathing down your neck and contacting you directly, get a tax lawyer and a superb accountant, and let them handle it all for youComment
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Best advice here is to get an accountant or lawyer or both to deal with this for you. Don't even talk to them if the accountant or lawyer is not with you.Comment
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A good tax attorney and tax accountant always saves you money....Originally posted by Jace
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Don't have jurisdiction as such - but they sure have cause to check US taxpayers are actually making full declaration of international revenue sources.Originally posted by Deej_E4A
There is some irony (in particular re the US) when a US citizen does not live within the US, (eg may be a resident of another country) - they still want annual filings of worldwide income and taxes can be payable on this back in the US.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Don't fuck with the tax man.
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Get an attorney that specializes in tax/audit scenarios. If the IRS wants something, they are likely asking because they have reason to believe it will lead to undeclared income. We just finished an audit and they went through everything. Give them what they want if you have nothing to hide, otherwise it can go on for a long time. Better still, get representation.Comment
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hrmm interesting, Thank youOriginally posted by WebbyComment
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only two things in life are certain. Death and Taxes. with that in mind, IRS can make you wish that you were dead. Show them the fucking stats, and get it over with.
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What did the irs say about selling porn? Are they weirded out by it? I know it's perfectly legal, but I just thought it would be awkward explaining about "stats" and "sponsors" to anyone, let alone IRS. I would have nervous breakdown during the interview.
I'm already anti social so talking to any stranger about just about anything would give me a breakdown already, but explaining porn would just be so much worse.Comment
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thanks you just hit the nail on the head right there.Originally posted by jackie1
the affiliate in question is a footjob sponsor and the affiliate stats page is full of feet and cumshots. i dont think i can actually show that to the IRS.Comment
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It's just a biz jackieOriginally posted by jackie1 Tax folks are only interested in $'s and proper accounting - and normally there would be no "interview" without an agent/lawyer/accountant present.
Only my
based on past experiences with em - it's down to the investigating agent bottom line. Some think "porn merchants" hide millions under the bed and they are on to something. They usually find *something* to claim, but if the accounting is correctly - it's usually peanuts.
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Originally posted by jackie1
The IRS could give a fuck if you're selling porn, drugs, whatever. All they care about is collecting tax.
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I wouldn't hand over my affiliate stats, but I'd hand over the equivalent. Namely, invoices from every period from those sponsors. In the case of an audit, they do have the right to look at your income sources. But if you're in an audit situation, I wouldn't go without a kickass attorney and accountant.
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I think you should definately talk to an attourney. It's strange that they want to see stats. You could be signed up for 100 programs. Damn....Comment
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Download the stats into a spreadsheet and give them that.Comment
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Get a lawyer. If you are in the US they can shut you down and haul you away. Repeat don't mess around get a tax attorney.Comment
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How would they even know that you have affiliate stats?Comment
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Sounds about right KRL.Originally posted by KRL
There are loads of laws used to justify almost *anything*. There was the old blue-rise hair lady who got $10K "confiscated" off her while on Amtrack. (There is some bylaw where a "govt officer" can just seize money when it's $10K or more from any passenger travelling on Amtrack). She is still waiting for the funds to be returned - and no indictment on any offense for the last eight years since this happened.
It's much nicer to not live under a regime like that.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Bank accounts - unless there is epassporte which is another issue They are not stupid and love plastic cardsOriginally posted by Scootermuze
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Huh? I have bank accounts.. I deposit my affiliate checks.. That's all they know.. How does it relate?Originally posted by WebbyBank accounts - unless there is epassporte which is another issue They are not stupid and love plastic cardsComment
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I hope for your sake you have been 1099ing your affiliates! I don't think that you would need to show them something without a subpoena. My advice, though, is to use good accountants and have all communications directed to them or legal counsel. lol
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There is only one post in this entire thread with the correct answer. Since you ignored it I'll post it once more to do you a favor. If you ignore it again, your loss, enjoy federal pound you in the ass prison ;)
What you need for this situation is an Enrolled Agent.
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Relate to what? The IRS will have full rights to know *anything* they need to know in connecting with tax payment compliance and auditing of records. It's a matter of they ask, - you answer (whether thru an agent or not). Give the wrong answer or lie and the problems start.Originally posted by Scootermuze
Sure, tax audits are basically using banking data and accounting papers to reconcile fund movements - and any other info which may be useful.
You'd be surprised how things start to get more meaningful and "relate" when there is reason to believe there is a problem or information has come from third parties.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Agree - It's never wise to play games without professional guidance.Originally posted by SwordFish
If there are deliberate bullshit figures on tax filings, including the old ATM cash withdrawals of un-declared revenue and the tax regime is not to your liking - get the hell out to a tax-free country. It's a much nicer lifestyle
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lol that made me laugh..Originally posted by PhoenixIn November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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the IRS asked you to see your stats??? lol, someone's pulling your leg.Comment
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Don't laugh... One revenue agent actually thought he was going to claim the ownership of domain names were "assets" and those had an appreciating valueOriginally posted by Morgan Suppose he had to try.
Stats? That's nothing! They will count your weekly milk bills and hell knows what else to establish a standard of living if they want.
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