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  • SlamDesigns
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2339

    #1

    Does anyone elses CCBill ratios suck this bad?

    Ok, I contacted CCBill about my ratios, and got back the standard "it's not our fault" reply...but man, this just ain't right. In February I didn't hardly promote any CCBill programs, and my ratio was 1:453, then in March I promoted the hell out of CCBill programs, and my ratio dropped to 1:6191. And no, that's not a typo...the ratio dropped to 1:6191. That's not, "oh, I had a bad month" ratios...that's, "fuck this shit, it's time to quit dealing with CCBill" ratios. My sales literally died after they did their "upgrade and improvements" or whatever the hell they did, and somehow it's a little hard to believe since my traffic was way up in March. So, has anyone elses sales dropped that much with CCBill programs?
  • Hinc
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    • Oct 2004
    • 2577

    #2
    They havent been steadily down - but very unstable...for me.
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    • Nicky
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2003
      • 30071

      #3
      around 1:300 last month

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      • Pandemos
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2005
        • 956

        #4
        My ratios up until the end of February were reasonably consistent, roughly 1:1100, but March and April (so far) have slipped to about 1:1800.
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        • Juicy D. Links
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 122992

          #5
          mine have been on point tbh

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          • bogo
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 1982

            #6
            March was a record breaking mth,although this payperiod does not look good at all.

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            • Wiggles
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 14423

              #7
              2 days ago 1:50, yesterday 1:75
              no problems here.
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              • pocketkangaroo
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2005
                • 8452

                #8
                Really varies for me. It seems like they all of a sudden scrub real hard for a week and then it goes back to normal.

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                • redfrog
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 78

                  #9
                  till februar : 1:200 now : 1:1900
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                  • Violetta
                    Affiliate
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 28735

                    #10
                    working fine for me...
                    M&A Queen

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                    • Bansheelinks
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 6023

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SlamDesigns
                      Ok, I contacted CCBill about my ratios, and got back the standard "it's not our fault" reply...but man, this just ain't right. In February I didn't hardly promote any CCBill programs, and my ratio was 1:453, then in March I promoted the hell out of CCBill programs, and my ratio dropped to 1:6191. And no, that's not a typo...the ratio dropped to 1:6191. That's not, "oh, I had a bad month" ratios...that's, "fuck this shit, it's time to quit dealing with CCBill" ratios. My sales literally died after they did their "upgrade and improvements" or whatever the hell they did, and somehow it's a little hard to believe since my traffic was way up in March. So, has anyone elses sales dropped that much with CCBill programs?
                      they blow lately

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                      • FilthyRob
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6741

                        #12
                        I pretty much stopped checking except like once a month to see what I sold.
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                        • BlingDaddy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 6343

                          #13
                          What I'd like is for someone to explain the technicality of how CC Bill would be scrubbing.
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                          • Hinc
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 2577

                            #14
                            if it was actually ccbill scrubbing - wouldnt the inbox be loaded with denial emails?
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                            • bawdy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1424

                              #15
                              Same traffic sources in March as in February?

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                              • After Shock Media
                                It's coming look busy
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 35299

                                #16
                                To really have a bearing on this one must fucking throw ratio's out the damn window, they mean jack shit. CCbill has a tendancy to count all clicks and the way some have set up their galleries and hosted galleries (if you use them) they start counting the person the second they hit the gallery with out even going to the site. Non CCbill sites are more apt to count just site hits, second page, or even join page hits. So what you see in "ratio's" may not be reality anyways.

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                                • jcsike
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 689

                                  #17
                                  Seems to me that we have this conversation every year around the same time. Personally, I think it may have something to do with tax season. After the 15th of this things will go back to normal until summer slow down hits, then back to good in August.

                                  I got to think that people have started to pick up on this by now.

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                                  • latinasojourn
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 3191

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                    What I'd like is for someone to explain the technicality of how CC Bill would be scrubbing.

                                    not a technical explanation, but a guess.

                                    i suspect a big processor like ccbill has composite "threshholds". think of an electrical rheostat as an analogy.

                                    during any given month due to a variety of circumstances the processor needs to tweak it's composite chargeback threshhold to stay within merchant account guidelines.

                                    so almost daily someone is turning up and down the "scrub-a-matic" rheostat to keep this threshhold just under the allowable limit.

                                    to me this is the only reasonable explanation for the WIDE variability of conversion ratios from day to day.

                                    as an example from 1998-2003 ccbill was VERY stable---but since visa started getting tougher, conversion ratios are all over the place.

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                                    • SlamDesigns
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 2339

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bawdy
                                      Same traffic sources in March as in February?
                                      Same ones, plus some new ones.

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                                      • SlamDesigns
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 2339

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jcsike
                                        Seems to me that we have this conversation every year around the same time. Personally, I think it may have something to do with tax season. After the 15th of this things will go back to normal until summer slow down hits, then back to good in August.

                                        I got to think that people have started to pick up on this by now.
                                        Well, I didn't get into adult until August/September of last year, so this is actually the first time I've experienced this. I kind of thought that tax season might have something to do with it because my sales are down across the board...just nothing as drastic as the CCBill stats. Glad to hear it's gonna get better, because right now, this sucks. Thanks for the info!

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                                        • dissipate
                                          The Dirty Frenchman
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 8904

                                          #21
                                          i'm 1:650 with ccbill for the past 6 months

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32451

                                            #22
                                            Mine have sucked on their program, but if it is NATS or otherwise I am doing fine... Lightspeed, Panchodog... etc...

                                            I think their affiliate program software sucks ass

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