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  • Raven
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    • Jul 2001
    • 6874
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    AVN - Internext - The Diplomat ENTIRE property is non smoking?

    Are you crazy, AVN?

    I just got off the phone with the Westin Diplomat who confirmed their ENTIRE property is non smoking...

    Now, for those who don't care....move on...

    BUT - for those who do care......bloody hell....

    Is this going to affect who goes and who doesn't?
    Raven

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    • Kassidy
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      • Jul 2003
      • 1219
      #2
      I don't smoke so I don't understand the harsh addiction first-hand.....but if someone told me the whole place was non-drinking I might have something to say


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        • Raven
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          • Jul 2001
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          #3
          Originally posted by Kassidy
          I don't smoke so I don't understand the harsh addiction first-hand.....but if someone told me the whole place was non-drinking I might have something to say
          That could be next.

          Point is this. There are plenty who smoke....in our industry....especially when they drink...and we DO drink..
          Raven

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            • Zprogramz
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              • Apr 2003
              • 1360
              #4
              I heard Monty from AVN say on a radio show that you can smoke by the pool.

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                • Raven
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6874
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Zprogramz
                  I heard Monty from AVN say on a radio show that you can smoke by the pool.
                  Well, then, he's got a better grip on things than the Diplomat who told me no you can't smoke anywhere on their property, no exceptions for this trade show. I just got off the phone with them. I even asked if special arrangements were being made for this convention during these dates....and, because I simply do not accept the lunacy of this, I would think special arrangements would be made....so I spoke, also, to a supervisor....who said there is no smoking on the premises, including the pool and surrounding areas....
                  Raven

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                    • RAM
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                      • Jan 2001
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                      #6
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                        • ronaldo
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                          • Jan 2002
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                          #7
                          Hey Raven, I asked Monty about that too and he assured me that the Westin was willing to work with us for that weekend, or at the very least AVN was TRYING to make it so.

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                            • sherie
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                              • Feb 2002
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                              #8
                              I hardly think that they would enforce it or could for that matter. Christ, they have people banging in the common areas...who knows...
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                                • MickeyG
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                                  • May 2004
                                  • 4134
                                  #9
                                  good smoking stinks, I hate smelling that shit.

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                                    • Eric
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                                      • Dec 2000
                                      • 8818
                                      #10
                                      You sure they didn't mean any where on the property indoors?
                                      No One

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                                        • XMaster
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 2945
                                          #11
                                          That's funny to see this thread today about westin dilplomat - i just received a mail today from "Rust Consulting Inc." ...and it appears there is a kind of Class action lawsuit against Starwood.

                                          btw, i do smoke so WTF !
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                                            • cspdinc
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                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 724
                                              #12
                                              Smoking wil be outlawed within our lifetime. Possibly drinking too, depending on the route the country takes in the next election. Frankly I'm surprised adult still lives. The fact the net is NOT confined to the USA is its greatest asset.

                                              Look at Calabassas... (is the smoking ban, city wide anywhere, still in effect there?)

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                                                • darksoul
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                                                  • Apr 2002
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MickeyG
                                                  I hate smelling that shit.
                                                  stop beeing an asshole then

                                                  sorry I couldn't resist.
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                                                    • Wizzo
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                                                      Looks like the Xbiz show will be the summer show to attend...
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                                                        • PornMySex
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by XMaster
                                                          That's funny to see this thread today about westin dilplomat - i just received a mail today from "Rust Consulting Inc." ...and it appears there is a kind of Class action lawsuit against Starwood.

                                                          btw, i do smoke so WTF !
                                                          I receved the same thing this morning...

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                                                            • CuriousToyBoy
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                                                              #16
                                                              They had better get ready to arrest me.

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                                                                • FlogTheLog
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                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                  • 3842
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
                                                                  They had better get ready to arrest me.

                                                                  2c
                                                                  They will have to get pass me first, i am your official BodyGuard

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                                                                    • Trixxxia
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                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 5600
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I could understand 'indoors' but pool area? Is the beach considered their 'property' too? Will all networking be done on the beach so smokers can smoke and the people wanting to talk to the smokers about business, can/will most likely only find them there?

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                                                                        • K R I S T E N
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                          Looks like the Xbiz show will be the summer show to attend...

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                                                                            • CuriousToyBoy
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                                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                                              • 16787
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by FlogTheLog
                                                                              They will have to get pass me first, i am your official BodyGuard
                                                                              SO after they pick themselves up from the floor laughing, THEN they can arrest me.

                                                                              he he

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                                                                                • FlogTheLog
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                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                  • 3842
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
                                                                                  SO after they pick themselves up from the floor laughing, THEN they can arrest me.

                                                                                  he he

                                                                                  ;-)
                                                                                  ahhh shit i walked into that one

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                                                                                    • Pete-KT
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                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                      • 51532
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Was like this last year too no problem

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                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 51692
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by RAM
                                                                                          Welcome to the land of the Free !!!
                                                                                          Yeah you're free not to disturb other people arround and make them inhale your deadly fucking smoke...

                                                                                          I do agree then smoking by the poolside should be OKed
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                                                                                            • Cory W
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                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                              • 9133
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Supposedly they fine your room and it is added to the room charge.

                                                                                              Just carry around Eric's room key and you should be fine.
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                                                                                                • Anthony
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                  • 9653
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  First time ever I can say that this doesn't affect me, one bit.

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                                                                                                    • MJ_AVN
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                                      • 665
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      SMOKE BY THE POOL PEOPLE! SMOKE ALL YOU LIKE. I'LL BE DOING THE SAME.
                                                                                                      As it is the chain's policy that there is no smoking, they're probably going to toe the company line and tell you there's no smoking anywhere.
                                                                                                      We've made arrangements otherwise, so no, to answer your question, we are not insane.
                                                                                                      I'll be slowing killing myself with tobacco right next to you, by the pool.
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                                                                                                        • James-AR
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Funny, Our (smoking) ancestors fought and died to protect out right to make choices for ourselves..
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                                                                                                            • ronaldo
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                                                                              Was like this last year too no problem
                                                                                                              No it wasn't. The decision may have been made, but they didn't start implementing it at all until January 1st. It will be fully implemented by the end of this month.

                                                                                                              edit-misread the article. It should have been fully implemented by the end of January.
                                                                                                              Last edited by ronaldo; 04-06-2006, 09:05 AM.

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                                                                                                                • KRL
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 31429
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I hope so. Personally I detest having to breath 2nd hand smoke.

                                                                                                                  I wish they'd ban smoking for the whole USA. From a health standpoint, its far worse than drugs and has absolutely zero benefit.

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                                                                                                                    • Trax
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                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      i would appreciate if that would be the case
                                                                                                                      however people are going to smoke

                                                                                                                      and who wouldnt attend thhe show just because of smoking
                                                                                                                      are you guys really that addicted that you let your addiction run your life
                                                                                                                      kinda sick

                                                                                                                      btw
                                                                                                                      i guess you can do coke on the property either
                                                                                                                      still there will be.... nevermind

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                                                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                          • 122992
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I am smoking its all good. Ill put the room under

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                                                                                                                            • wdsguy
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                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 19568
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              So you wouldn't attend a show just because you can't smoke? thats pretty lame.

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                                                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                                                                                                  Supposedly they fine your room and it is added to the room charge.

                                                                                                                                  Just carry around Eric's room key and you should be fine.
                                                                                                                                  i remember when 2 years ago they wanted to charge me $50 for a "damged towel"

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                                                                                                                                    • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 122992
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Anyone know if they are honoring starwoods points?

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                                                                                                                                        • MJ_AVN
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                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 665
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                                                          Are you crazy, AVN?

                                                                                                                                          I just got off the phone with the Westin Diplomat who confirmed their ENTIRE property is non smoking...

                                                                                                                                          Now, for those who don't care....move on...

                                                                                                                                          BUT - for those who do care......bloody hell....

                                                                                                                                          Is this going to affect who goes and who doesn't?
                                                                                                                                          Just to make sure the message gets out, since some people don't seem to be reading my previous post...

                                                                                                                                          We've made arrangements so you can smoke by the pool.

                                                                                                                                          I'll reiterate that on today's AVN Afternoons, so if you want to hear it from my mouth, tune in on www.ynotradio.com at 1 p.m. PT.

                                                                                                                                          Thank you.
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                                                                                                                                            • selena
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                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 7995
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                                                                                              So you wouldn't attend a show just because you can't smoke? thats pretty lame.
                                                                                                                                              Not wanting to be around a ton of smoke is one of 3 reasons why shows don't appeal to me.
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                                                                                                                                                • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 9653
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Wow, you can smoke by the pool!

                                                                                                                                                  It's kinda like when the United States and Canada put their Japanese citizens in interment camps.


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                                                                                                                                                    • King Adam
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 5408
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      No disrepect to the smokers here, but I don't understand the fuss. Smoking is slowly becoming more and more non-excepted. I realize some people are addicted but it does kill and why should non-smokers have to put up with smoke around them. 2nd hand smoke kills too. I used to be a smoker for almost 15 years. When I moved to San Diego, you can't smoke anywhere, so it made it easier to quit.

                                                                                                                                                      People talk about freedom and they should be able to smoke. Well, I look at it as freedom also means I shouldn't have to worry about breathing in things that smell like crap and cause disease.

                                                                                                                                                      Come on peeps ... we all know smoking kills. Why purposly do something that you know can kill you and the people around you. I guess smokers will just have to walk down to the beach. I occasinally smoke a cigar and thats where you'll find me.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 122992
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          FYI i went to book on the SPG site for another date and the smoing option was avail

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                                                                                                                                                            • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 9653
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Stop Being A Fucking Hypoquitter Adam!!!


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                                                                                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe they should designate certain points as "smoking areas" ?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Raven
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6874
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MJ_AVN
                                                                                                                                                                      Just to make sure the message gets out, since some people don't seem to be reading my previous post...

                                                                                                                                                                      We've made arrangements so you can smoke by the pool.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'll reiterate that on today's AVN Afternoons, so if you want to hear it from my mouth, tune in on www.ynotradio.com at 1 p.m. PT.

                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you.
                                                                                                                                                                      I'll take your word for it....

                                                                                                                                                                      It won't stop me from attending; but, to try to stop attendees from smoking is ludicrous....it just won't happen.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm glad to see AVN making those special arrangements. That hotel simply makes too much money from us to let a little smoke get in the way of all those fat tips and prepaid damage money.
                                                                                                                                                                      Raven

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                          #43

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Cory W
                                                                                                                                                                              Deeply shallow
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 9133
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by King Adam
                                                                                                                                                                              No disrepect to the smokers here, but I don't understand the fuss. Smoking is slowly becoming more and more non-excepted. I realize some people are addicted but it does kill and why should non-smokers have to put up with smoke around them. 2nd hand smoke kills too. I used to be a smoker for almost 15 years. When I moved to San Diego, you can't smoke anywhere, so it made it easier to quit.

                                                                                                                                                                              People talk about freedom and they should be able to smoke. Well, I look at it as freedom also means I shouldn't have to worry about breathing in things that smell like crap and cause disease.

                                                                                                                                                                              Come on peeps ... we all know smoking kills. Why purposly do something that you know can kill you and the people around you. I guess smokers will just have to walk down to the beach. I occasinally smoke a cigar and thats where you'll find me.

                                                                                                                                                                              I tend to smoke at shows. When I drink, I crave them and my will-power and rational are altered.

                                                                                                                                                                              I think your post is correct though. Smoking is disgusting. I hate the fact that I do it. Something about shows though....
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Kassidy
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1219
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by James-AR
                                                                                                                                                                                  Funny, Our (smoking) ancestors fought and died to protect out right to make choices for ourselves..
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                                                                                                                                                                                  That is such a silly argument. What about the rights of non-smokers not to be forced to inhale your poison? Alcohol is legal too but you can't just walk around town with a beer in your hand. There has to be rules and as the hotel is private property, they can make any rules they like.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Personally, I don't smoke but I'm also not offended by people who smoke outdoors. Smoke all you want out by the pool, doesn't bother me one bit as long as you don't blow that rank shit in my face.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Good on AVN for getting them to bend the rules a little to accomodate the high percentage of smokers at this convention. Nice to see that they're listening to what people want


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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Quagmire
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                                      I am smoking its all good. Ill put the room under

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ramos D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                                      pole smoking doesn't count.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I am a professional smoker.....I know its gross and unhealthy........

                                                                                                                                                                                          Wish i never started....... But its a hard habit to kick

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • HorseShit
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 17513
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Raven
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6874
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I feel as others do. It's a nasty habit that I got into when I thought smoking was 'cool'. I don't smoke much; maybe a half pack a day, even at shows, even when I'm drinking...

                                                                                                                                                                                                  BUT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If I'm smoking in my room, who am I hurting?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If I'm smoking by the pool, the air, even as humid as it is in Florida, makes a fabulous ventilation system.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think there are excuses made for all kinds of behaviours...yet, smokers are vilified and criminalised.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                  This thread was not about a debate on the merits or demerits of smokers and our nasty habit. It was to confirm or deny something the Westin said to me and now AVN has stated otherwise....I'm okay with this.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Raven

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 15427
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Are you crazy, AVN?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I just got off the phone with the Westin Diplomat who confirmed their ENTIRE property is non smoking...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Now, for those who don't care....move on...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      BUT - for those who do care......bloody hell....

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Is this going to affect who goes and who doesn't?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      i was not sure if i was going to this show now im 100% sure u wont fuck the smoking bans.
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