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  • bigdog
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6964

    #1

    SoulRebel shaving and nats ? for you

    You make some very intresting points about shaving. What are your thoughts on pps programs that use nats do you think they are shaving at all?
  • Shoehorn!
    Die With Your Boots On
    • Oct 2003
    • 22872

    #2
    Can you post a link to the discussion you're talking about?

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    • BlingDaddy
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2004
      • 6343

      #3
      Originally posted by Shoehorn!
      Can you post a link to the discussion you're talking about?
      Yup.. link?
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      • polish_aristocrat
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2002
        • 40377

        #4
        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=580952

        this one probably
        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • BlingDaddy
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2004
          • 6343

          #5
          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
          Thanks PA.. I remember that one well.
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          • HarlotCash Dyker
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2003
            • 1828

            #6
            Originally posted by bigdog
            You make some very intresting points about shaving. What are your thoughts on pps programs that use nats do you think they are shaving at all?
            Saw the thread where Soul Rebel wrote his piece and sort of gets you wondering just how much, if any, shaving goes on -
            I have nats installed and will be going live with it soon - Like any programme, it looks good - no obvious shave features - But, as you know, a page added to your tour with your own track code and left for an hour or two will shave sales. Nothing nats can do about that kind of webmaster -
            I am all for allowing affiliates to sign up to check if the programme is being run honestly - But, there are many more affiliates that would try to take advantage of this situation - Catch 22 all round, really -
            At the end of the day, you have to send your traffic to people you can trust - and take your chances.
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            • bigdog
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6964

              #7
              Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
              Saw the thread where Soul Rebel wrote his piece and sort of gets you wondering just how much, if any, shaving goes on -
              I have nats installed and will be going live with it soon - Like any programme, it looks good - no obvious shave features - But, as you know, a page added to your tour with your own track code and left for an hour or two will shave sales. Nothing nats can do about that kind of webmaster -
              I am all for allowing affiliates to sign up to check if the programme is being run honestly - But, there are many more affiliates that would try to take advantage of this situation - Catch 22 all round, really -
              At the end of the day, you have to send your traffic to people you can trust - and take your chances.
              It just seems if you really want to shave why would you even bother using nats, seems like it would make things more difficult.

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              • fuzebox
                making it rain
                • Oct 2003
                • 22367

                #8
                Originally posted by bigdog
                It just seems if you really want to shave why would you even bother using nats, seems like it would make things more difficult.
                Not any more difficult than any other affiliate software. You can't rely on software to protect you, it is the company you should be trusting.

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                • Screaming
                  I can change this!!!!!
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 18972

                  #9
                  You can shave with any software. Everyone knows that. Anything is possible.

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                  • bigdog
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 6964

                    #10
                    bump for 2pac

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                    • TurboAngel
                      H.B.I.C.
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 30122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Screaming
                      You can shave with any software. Everyone knows that. Anything is possible.

                      No way.


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                      • andrej_NDC
                        Registered User
                        • May 2004
                        • 7760

                        #12
                        I think NATS allows the webmaster to setup the time frame the surfer has to sign-up within so the sale is credited to the affiliate. With ccbill this is not possible, since you see the setup of affiliate programs(cookies lenght in this case).

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                        • bigdog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 6964

                          #13
                          Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                          I think NATS allows the webmaster to setup the time frame the surfer has to sign-up within so the sale is credited to the affiliate. With ccbill this is not possible, since you see the setup of affiliate programs(cookies lenght in this case).
                          That is quite a feature if it works as you say it does

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                          • Nicky
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30071

                            #14
                            it was mad shave-o-mania a few years ago, what makes everyone think it doesnt exist now days? Sure it might be less but it's no way near not happening.

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                            • andrej_NDC
                              Registered User
                              • May 2004
                              • 7760

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigdog
                              That is quite a feature if it works as you say it does
                              Im not sure, one NATS user told me...

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                You make some very intresting points about shaving. What are your thoughts on pps programs that use nats do you think they are shaving at all?

                                Didn't see this thread till now.

                                Well you know how this goes...since we plan to use NATS with the release of new DA someone like me should avoid answering such question or lie. I will innovate.

                                We picked NATS as an advanced affiliate platform with good support and that's all about it. We want our affiliates to trust primarily our company and not to count on any 3rd part as "guarantee" of our honesty. Do a search for a recent thread with title word "clicktruth" and you'll see what I mean.

                                Now back to your question. I won't be suprised at all if some of the current aff. programs using NATS (or any other aff.platform) are shaving their webmasters. NATS clients list is growing pretty fast which is great. Personally I have my doubts about the honesty of few of them. Among those there's an owner of aff. program I caught shaving in 2002 and some I've suspecting but with no evidences.

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                                • BlingDaddy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 6343

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                  Didn't see this thread till now.

                                  Well you know how this goes...since we plan to use NATS with the release of new DA someone like me should avoid answering such question or lie. I will innovate.

                                  We picked NATS as an advanced affiliate platform with good support and that's all about it. We want our affiliates to trust primarily our company and not to count on any 3rd part as "guarantee" of our honesty. Do a search for a recent thread with title word "clicktruth" and you'll see what I mean.

                                  Now back to your question. I won't be suprised at all if some of the current aff. programs using NATS (or any other aff.platform) are shaving their webmasters. NATS clients list is growing pretty fast which is great. Personally I have my doubts about the honesty of few of them. Among those there's an owner of aff. program I caught shaving in 2002 and some I've suspecting but with no evidences.
                                  You're going to NATS? How come? Why fix it if it's not broken?
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                                  • SCORE Ralph
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 2090

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                    Not any more difficult than any other affiliate software. You can't rely on software to protect you, it is the company you should be trusting.
                                    You stole the words right outta my mouth. Get in contact with the companies you promote. Dont just blindly put up links and hope for the best. You should build a relationship, it is a business after all.
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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #19
                                      hey blingdaddy. We are not exactly moving to NATS. We'll have a hybrid system allowing affiliates to use ccbill as payment method and still check their stats from NATS, create campaigns etc. Those affiliates that want to get paid by epassporte will make use of NATS stats exclusively. So you can see it as a step going forwards offering more options, than changing something that works

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                                      • BlingDaddy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2004
                                        • 6343

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                        hey blingdaddy. We are not exactly moving to NATS. We'll have a hybrid system allowing affiliates to use ccbill as payment method and still check their stats from NATS, create campaigns etc. Those affiliates that want to get paid by epassporte will make use of NATS stats exclusively. So you can see it as a step going forwards offering more options, than changing something that works
                                        Good... I like my DA conversions right where they are thank you.....
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                                        • Theo
                                          HAL 9000
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 34515

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                          Good... I like my DA conversions right where they are thank you.....

                                          glad to hear

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