Do these sites convert well and if so what percentage usually retains for at least one paid month? Porn Kings is always pushing them. Anyone had any luck?
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Roger has a pretty good marketing speal behind it and I'll let him do his marketing touch to answer you. But the general idea is if you can't convert a $1 for 30 day member, you won't be able to convert much else.
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but you see.Originally posted by WiredGuy
Roger has a pretty good marketing speal behind it and I'll let him do his marketing touch to answer you. But the general idea is if you can't convert a $1 for 30 day member, you won't be able to convert much else.
WG
For the more avanced webmasters, why take 1$ when one can obviously make more at the end of the day by keeping it in house.
I have never understood this philosophy.
It started with FreeZineBucks people rushed for dollar signups, I was one of them, meanwhile the Hawgs hit em with ClickCash popups and make $20 plus (obviously they make more than 1g a week so their pay rate is much more for $35 a signup) the whole time off of your 1sign up traffic.
I rather keep ait in house.
Im sure Roger will be here talking of 'the bottomline' etc... yeah yeah heard it all before.
the bottomt line is if you can make more with your traffic, why send it to 1$ sign ups?
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but if you cant, by all means send it to someone who can,.
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Fletch... this is not about email/ezine programs where you get paid $1. Pornkings has sites that offer a monthly membership for $1 and the webmaster gets paid $25...Comment
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Obviously. And I didnt say it was.
I said it 'started with' in comparison of my own experience.
And no matter what its the same marketing strategy.
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I dont really like em...
In certain niches, the pseudo value that the consumer perceives from the price, is important.
Free trials are different, only because thats exactly what they are... a small trial.
But... 30 days for $1... not much perceived value there.
That said, Roger knows what he's doing and what he's talking about, so my guess is it converts real well. =)Comment
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Oh Drew, Drew, Drew.... you don't like me anymore? LOLOriginally posted by DrewKole
I dont really like em...
In certain niches, the pseudo value that the consumer perceives from the price, is important.
Free trials are different, only because thats exactly what they are... a small trial.
But... 30 days for $1... not much perceived value there.
That said, Roger knows what he's doing and what he's talking about, so my guess is it converts real well. =)
Listen, Porn4aBuck converts AWESOME! Perceived value? PLEASE! We have TONS of content and once you try us out, you will see that our product does indeed convert fabulously.
Hit me up at [email protected] if you have any questions!
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No one questioned if it converts or not.Originally posted by PornkingsJen
you will see that our product does indeed convert fabulously.
The statement of debate is.
If you can make more than the $25 off your traffic, why send it to you?
Answer?
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From what I've seen Roger post about it before, it converts from the $1 trial to thirtysomething a month better than a 3 day or 5 day trial because the member doesn't feel pressured to cancel right away and checks everything out.
So I guess it works the same as paying per sign up on a 3 day trial, except you have to wait longer for the rebills to add up.sig too bigComment
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Your right Fletch, the bottom line is what matters most and that's why I still promote those $2.95 trials because when I do the math at the end of the pay periods I still earn more on those $40-$45 per paid joins. It depends on your traffic, my traffic know the porn is not free and they are willing to pay for it. If they see it for free (free trials) or for $1, they get suspicious. I tried it both ways, the best way for my traffic is paid join tour and free joins on exits. It's all relative on your traffic, people should understand their surfers and present their ads accordingly.
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stocktrader23's original question asked if we convert well, just answeringOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
No one questioned if it converts or not.
The statement of debate is.
If you can make more than the $25 off your traffic, why send it to you.
Answer?
Why send it to me if you can make more than $25? Easy answer. Our conversions are very good. Look at your bottom line. I could give you $50/trial, but convert 1:1000 or I could give you $25/trial and convert MUCH BETTER = you more $. You know it is the $ in the check that counts, Fletch.
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Is that questions pertaining to Pornkings or can I use that email to keep trying to pick you upOriginally posted by PornkingsJen
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agreeOriginally posted by WiredGuy
Your right Fletch, the bottom line is what matters most and that's why I still promote those $2.95 trials because when I do the math at the end of the pay periods I still earn more on those $40-$45 per paid joins. It depends on your traffic, my traffic know the porn is not free and they are willing to pay for it. If they see it for free (free trials) or for $1, they get suspicious. I tried it both ways, the best way for my traffic is paid join tour and free joins on exits. It's all relative on your traffic, people should understand their surfers and present their ads accordingly.
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WG, you are one of my favs. You can hit me up anytime!Originally posted by WiredGuy
Is that questions pertaining to Pornkings or can I use that email to keep trying to pick you up
WG
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Originally posted by PornkingsJen
WG, you are one of my favs. You can hit me up anytime!
Roger keeps trying to pimp you out for my traffic though. Hehe, your the best Jen.
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A Roger echo reply.Originally posted by PornkingsJen
stocktrader23's original question asked if we convert well, just answering Why send it to me if you can make more than $25? Easy answer. Our conversions are very good. Look at your bottom line. I could give you $50/trial, but convert 1:1000 or I could give you $25/trial and convert MUCH BETTER = you more $. You know it is the $ in the check that counts, Fletch.
My check amounts matter and Ive tried them all.
I do what works for me. You do what you do to get affiliates, I do what I do to get paid. Thats the bottom line.
The problem is your whole marketing strategy never wants to admit the possibility of me having more control over my traffic and making more with it.
I deal in niches you have never heard of, and even if you did you wouldnt know how to market it.
Trust me, I have no use for ChickenHeadWhores, I wouldnt know how to convert it.
My 'bottom line' is I do what works for me. The problem is youre too determined to get people to push you that you are blinded to that possibility of control I mentioned earlier.
I predicted your response and knew it would come, either from you or Roger himself. When you yourself have been in my situations and experiences then tell me what will work the best, until then, ive tried your method, and I rather mine.
I can admit that, you cannot.
You do what youre told, and say what you are told to say, Ive tried the methods and have formed an opinion based on experience, how can you even think of changing that? because youre program is rated #1 on some 'RateMyOverRatedProgramBucksThing.com?'
Nah, i listen to what my stats say, not a board rep.
Sorry dear.
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WHAT? Fucker.Originally posted by WiredGuy
Roger keeps trying to pimp you out for my traffic though. Hehe, your the best Jen.
WG
Hit me up icq:175766581, aim: jenlanzador. I need to get your traffic.
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LOL. Fletch, that is cool. I never said to not do what "is good and works for you". All I was trying to say is try us out. And no, I am not just a "board rep"... I have been in the adult business for over 10 years. I just believe in our product and how it compares to the rest of the industry, nothing more, nothing less.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
A Roger echo reply.
My check amounts matter and Ive tried them all.
I do what works for me. You do what you do to get affiliates, I do what I do to get paid. Thats the bottom line.
The problem is your whole marketing strategy never wants to admit the possibility of me having more control over my traffic and making more with it.
I deal in niches you have never heard of, and even if you did you wouldnt know how to market it.
Trust me, I have no use for ChickenHeadWhores, I wouldnt know how to convert it.
My 'bottom line' is I do what works for me. The problem is youre too determined to get people to push you that you are blinded to that possibility of control I mentioned earlier.
I predicted your response and knew it would come, either from you or Roger himself. When you yourself have been in my situations and experiences then tell me what will work the best, until then, ive tried your method, and I rather mine.
I can admit that, you cannot.
You do what youre told, and say what you are told to say, Ive tried the methods and have formed an opinion based on experience, how can you even think of changing that? because youre program is rated #1 on some 'RateMyOverRatedProgramBucksThing.com?'
Nah, i listen to what my stats say, not a board rep.
Sorry dear.
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Hehe... it's all in good fun
I'm actually waiting until your no-popup version of P4AB comes out, or until Roger let's me host your tours, or until Roger fixes me up with you... Hehe, I never stop hitting on you!
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lol... fab. Hey, hit my ICQ up again. I think I am having problems adding people.Originally posted by WiredGuy
Hehe... it's all in good fun
I'm actually waiting until your no-popup version of P4AB comes out, or until Roger let's me host your tours, or until Roger fixes me up with you... Hehe, I never stop hitting on you!
WG
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we have tried it all trust me. We have been doing paysites since 96 If you don't like our Porn4a buck try out our free trial program if you don't like free trials we have a paid 3 day trial program that pays $40.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
A Roger echo reply.
My check amounts matter and Ive tried them all.
I do what works for me. You do what you do to get affiliates, I do what I do to get paid. Thats the bottom line.
The problem is your whole marketing strategy never wants to admit the possibility of me having more control over my traffic and making more with it.
I deal in niches you have never heard of, and even if you did you wouldnt know how to market it.
Trust me, I have no use for ChickenHeadWhores, I wouldnt know how to convert it.
My 'bottom line' is I do what works for me. The problem is youre too determined to get people to push you that you are blinded to that possibility of control I mentioned earlier.
I predicted your response and knew it would come, either from you or Roger himself. When you yourself have been in my situations and experiences then tell me what will work the best, until then, ive tried your method, and I rather mine.
I can admit that, you cannot.
You do what youre told, and say what you are told to say, Ive tried the methods and have formed an opinion based on experience, how can you even think of changing that? because youre program is rated #1 on some 'RateMyOverRatedProgramBucksThing.com?'
Nah, i listen to what my stats say, not a board rep.
Sorry dear.
The bottom line is how much you make at the end of the day with your traffic and from all our traffic sources Porn4abuck does the best. and that is why we have full exits off most the sponsors out there.
but this is why we have 3 programs for you to choose from
and fletch soon we will have all of brittany Andrews sites that have fetishes like trampling ,smothering etc. I'm sure you'll dig it
One question Have you tried us out? And I don't mean our method but have you sent us traffic?Pornkings.comComment
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Originally posted by Pornkings
we have tried it all trust me. We have been doing paysites since 96 If you don't like our Porn4a buck try out our free trial program if you don't like free trials we have a paid 3 day trial program that pays $40.
The bottom line is how much you make at the end of the day with your traffic and from all our traffic sources Porn4abuck does the best. and that is why we have full exits off most the sponsors out there.
but this is why we have 3 programs for you to choose from
and fletch soon we will have all of brittany Andrews sites that have fetishes like trampling ,smothering etc. I'm sure you'll dig it
One question Have you tried us out? And I don't mean our method but have you sent us traffic?Originally posted by Fletch XXX
A Roger echo reply.
I predicted your response and knew it would come, either from you or Roger himself. When you yourself have been in my situations and experiences then tell me what will work the best, until then, ive tried your method, and I rather mine.
I can admit that, you cannot.
As I said, youre more concerned with gaining affiliates than actually seeing another side of the argument.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Im sure Roger will be here talking of 'the bottomline' etc... yeah yeah heard it all before.
the bottomt line is if you can make more with your traffic, why send it to 1$ sign ups?
;)
And as always, I doubt you read the threads you post in.
Blindfolds and opinions, people wear them so well.
I swear im psychic.
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As for Brittany Andrews, I met her 4 years ago.
I care not about porn stars.
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Kewl cause we have Paid trial program as well that pays $40 call speedballOriginally posted by WiredGuy
Your right Fletch, the bottom line is what matters most and that's why I still promote those $2.95 trials because when I do the math at the end of the pay periods I still earn more on those $40-$45 per paid joins. It depends on your traffic, my traffic know the porn is not free and they are willing to pay for it. If they see it for free (free trials) or for $1, they get suspicious. I tried it both ways, the best way for my traffic is paid join tour and free joins on exits. It's all relative on your traffic, people should understand their surfers and present their ads accordingly.
WG
we got all the basis coveredPornkings.comComment
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I read what you said..Originally posted by Fletch XXX
As I said, youre more concerned with gaining affiliates than actually seeing another side of the argument.
And as always, I doubt you read the threads you post in.
Blindfolds and opinions, people wear them so well.
I swear im psychic.
If you just have your own sites you promote great if your looking for a sponsor who can convert your traffic its the Pornkings.
I really don't understand your reply you said you tried our method
that doesn't mean much untill you've tried our sites.
I am so certain webmasters will be happy promoting Porn4aBuck that if they test us out against there main sponsor if we don't make them more I'll send back double the traffic from our exits. If you want to challenge me I'm all for it just email me.
I always back my word up. Thats how confident I amPornkings.comComment
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Originally posted by Pornkings
I read what you said..
If you just have your own sites you promote great if your looking for a sponsor who can convert your traffic its the Pornkings.
I really don't understand your reply you said you tried our method
that doesn't mean much untill you've tried our sites.
I am so certain webmasters will be happy promoting Porn4aBuck that if they test us out against there main sponsor if we don't make them more I'll send back double the traffic from our exits. If you want to challenge me I'm all for it just email me.
I always back my word up. Thats how confident I am
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Look Roger, I dont want to try your sites.Originally posted by Pornkings
I read what you said..
If you just have your own sites you promote great if your looking for a sponsor who can convert your traffic its the Pornkings.
I really don't understand your reply you said you tried our method
that doesn't mean much untill you've tried our sites.
I am so certain webmasters will be happy promoting Porn4aBuck that if they test us out against there main sponsor if we don't make them more I'll send back double the traffic from our exits. If you want to challenge me I'm all for it just email me.
I always back my word up. Thats how confident I am
I have my way, you have yours.
I have lookd at them, almost all of them.
When I first looked at thwem the html was not lining up on most of them and had horrible tables at the bottom with phone numbers for live sex etc.
This was months ago, I formed an opinion then, just as I have now.
I get tired of hearing you ask me to sign up.
I dont want to.
I dont know why you feel threatened by my opinion, I simply voiced my oopinion in the thread and it turns into a challenge. Why? To gain affiliates. your whole argument consists of 'sign up to push me and prove me wrong'
no.
hahaha
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now im gonna go drink my beer and be a nice boy.
see ya later man.
I know your shit converts.
good luck.
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Gaining affiliates You think I don't see the other side I'm on the other side as well and so are the Sponsors and webmasters who promote us and are very happy. you think they don't understand how to make the most off there traffic.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
As I said, youre more concerned with gaining affiliates than actually seeing another side of the argument.
And as always, I doubt you read the threads you post in.
Blindfolds and opinions, people wear them so well.
I swear im psychic.
I don't know your niches because I have no idea what you have but I bet if I did, I would know how to market it.
So explain to me whats the other side of this argument.
I'm not agruing with you I'm just trying to understand what your point is. Is it you make more cause you just promote your own sites? or you have a niche that no one else does? I don't understand.
give me a call because I would like to here your side and toss some idea's around 800-230-1255Pornkings.comComment
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lets have a beer together don't you live in LA.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
now im gonna go drink my beer and be a nice boy.
see ya later man.
I know your shit converts.
good luck.
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