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  • volante
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    • Mar 2002
    • 2940

    #51
    Where's Woj when you need him?

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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204

      #52
      Originally posted by DynaSpain
      I don't want to claim that driving is safer.....however when I speak for myself.
      Whenever I drive faster I'm more concentrated then when I drive slow.
      I have been racing cars and motorbikes since I was 3 years old (on circuits and tracks)
      I normally don't race on public roads but like anyone else I aswell am in a hurry
      sometimes or drive faster than allowed when the roads are dead quiet.

      I think thats the #1 excuse for people who think they can drive too fast.
      The problem is more concentrated or not. If a kid jumps in front of your car 20mph too fast can make a HUGE difference.

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      • ssp
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        • Jan 2005
        • 7990

        #53
        Originally posted by DynaSpain
        I don't want to claim that driving is safer.....however when I speak for myself.
        Whenever I drive faster I'm more concentrated then when I drive slow.
        I have been racing cars and motorbikes since I was 3 years old (on circuits and tracks)
        I normally don't race on public roads but like anyone else I aswell am in a hurry
        sometimes or drive faster than allowed when the roads are dead quiet.

        whenever I drive slow I get distracted a lot faster by all kinds of stuff. When
        I drive faster I'm much more focussed on the road and traffic. Because of
        my racing experience I look much further ahead on the road than regular
        drivers and I can my reaction time is a lot faster aswell and I have much
        better control over motorvehicules than people who learned driving at age
        18 in a driving school. I have attended and given loads of advanced driving
        courses
        You might be the exception to the rule, but that still doesn't give you an excuse to be "above the law". Even though you might drive way better when you're doing 60kmph instead of 50, a limit is a limit and it's a limit for all sorts of reasons.

        Now I'm not at all an expert on this but I'd assume the speed limits are there to make sure you have enough time to brake in case something unexpected happens, for example.

        And volante, the statistics might well be representative for the entire UK. But even if they were highly accurate for the whole world, it's still a very feeble attempt to find "reasons" to speed. "Look, I can speed because I know how to drive and this statistics clearly show that more people die from lung cancer and food poisoning each year than me killing people with my car". It's not really the point is it?

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        • ServerGenius
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          • Feb 2002
          • 9377

          #54
          Originally posted by ssp
          You might be the exception to the rule, but that still doesn't give you an excuse to be "above the law". Even though you might drive way better when you're doing 60kmph instead of 50, a limit is a limit and it's a limit for all sorts of reasons.

          Now I'm not at all an expert on this but I'd assume the speed limits are there to make sure you have enough time to brake in case something unexpected happens, for example.

          And volante, the statistics might well be representative for the entire UK. But even if they were highly accurate for the whole world, it's still a very feeble attempt to find "reasons" to speed. "Look, I can speed because I know how to drive and this statistics clearly show that more people die from lung cancer and food poisoning each year than me killing people with my car". It's not really the point is it?

          I never claimed to be above the law. I got caught while speeding and I will
          get fined for it. That sucks but I will accept the consequences. I don't
          encourage anyone to drive faster than limits but like almost every other
          human on the planet I sometimes do.....intentionally or unintentionally it
          happens from time to time. Yes the way I got caught was imho a bit
          cheesy but then again if I didn't drive too fast I wouldn't have been caught.
          The fact that I feel a bit sour about the fine and all the hassle this is causing
          me is a normal reaction. I don't like to part with my money.......I never said
          that I've been treated unfair or anything.
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          • volante
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            • Mar 2002
            • 2940

            #55
            Originally posted by ssp
            And volante, the statistics might well be representative for the entire UK. But even if they were highly accurate for the whole world, it's still a very feeble attempt to find "reasons" to speed. "Look, I can speed because I know how to drive and this statistics clearly show that more people die from lung cancer and food poisoning each year than me killing people with my car". It's not really the point is it?
            It's not, and it's not the point I'm arguing. My point is that people are becoming vociferous about speeding and how bad it is, when many other factors are far, far more dangerous but are ignored in favour of something that can easily be measured. The message getting rammed down peoples throats (at least here in the UK) is that breaking the speed limit is bad, keeping to the speed limit is good IRRESPECTIVE of other road conditions and circumstances.

            Cops with speedguns and especially speed cameras do fuck-all to improve road safety. What they do manage is to raise revenue and make their crimes-solved figures look good.

            Then again, it is somewhat personal for me - a friends daughter was knocked down and dragged for 20+ metres by a driver who wasn't paying attention. Amazingly she survived, but all the driver could say when he got out of his car was "I was only doing 25mph, I wasn't speeding". If the fucker had been breaking the limit by 1mph and watching the road instead it wouldn't have happened.

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            • ServerGenius
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              • Feb 2002
              • 9377

              #56
              Originally posted by volante
              It's not, and it's not the point I'm arguing. My point is that people are becoming vociferous about speeding and how bad it is, when many other factors are far, far more dangerous but are ignored in favour of something that can easily be measured. The message getting rammed down peoples throats (at least here in the UK) is that breaking the speed limit is bad, keeping to the speed limit is good IRRESPECTIVE of other road conditions and circumstances.

              Cops with speedguns and especially speed cameras do fuck-all to improve road safety. What they do manage is to raise revenue and make their crimes-solved figures look good.
              Often speedtraps cause accidents because when people spot them all of a sudden they hit the brakes hard, even when they're not driving too fast.

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              • ssp
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                • Jan 2005
                • 7990

                #57
                Originally posted by DynaSpain
                I never said that I've been treated unfair or anything.
                You're right you didn't. Don't think I'm trying to give you a hard time here. Just some of the comments made by others in this thread made me point out the obvious.

                When I speak for myself, I've never had a speeding ticket, but was ticketed once for wrongly parking my car. It sucks getting a ticket and you always feel the cops are wrong. But I care very much for safety in traffic and I'm amazed by some people's attitudes towards it. It's not a playground and we all know it..

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                • Hooligan
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • May 2001
                  • 1472

                  #58
                  you should respect the laws

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                  • ssp
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 7990

                    #59
                    Originally posted by volante
                    It's not, and it's not the point I'm arguing. My point is that people are becoming vociferous about speeding and how bad it is, when many other factors are far, far more dangerous but are ignored in favour of something that can easily be measured. The message getting rammed down peoples throats (at least here in the UK) is that breaking the speed limit is bad, keeping to the speed limit is good IRRESPECTIVE of other road conditions and circumstances.

                    Cops with speedguns and especially speed cameras do fuck-all to improve road safety. What they do manage is to raise revenue and make their crimes-solved figures look good.

                    Then again, it is somewhat personal for me - a friends daughter was knocked down and dragged for 20+ metres by a driver who wasn't paying attention. Amazingly she survived, but all the driver could say when he got out of his car was "I was only doing 25mph, I wasn't speeding". If the fucker had been breaking the limit by 1mph and watching the road instead it wouldn't have happened.
                    I know, they are all over the issue of not speeding here. And honestly, I have only lived here for a year so I'm not an expert on the "british driver". To be honest with you, I'm stumbed sometimes by how some people drive in this country. Of course, it doesn't take much to pass a driving exam.

                    Unaware drivers are just as horrible as speeding drivers. My girlfriend is one of them. I constantly correct her steering because of all the near hits even though she's not going over 25. Driving is not for everyone.. some people get comfortable with their automobile after a time of practice and others never will.

                    Another thing that has been bugging me during my time here... is nobody uses their indicators. Now, maybe they should do a few campains for that.

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                    • rowan
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                      • Mar 2002
                      • 17393

                      #60
                      Being an experienced driver doesn't change the laws of physics. The faster you go the longer your stopping distance.

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                      • ServerGenius
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                        • Feb 2002
                        • 9377

                        #61
                        Originally posted by ssp
                        You're right you didn't. Don't think I'm trying to give you a hard time here. Just some of the comments made by others in this thread made me point out the obvious.

                        When I speak for myself, I've never had a speeding ticket, but was ticketed once for wrongly parking my car. It sucks getting a ticket and you always feel the cops are wrong. But I care very much for safety in traffic and I'm amazed by some people's attitudes towards it. It's not a playground and we all know it..

                        I agree, I drive very defensive on the roads coz there's too many idiots on
                        the road too busy with other stuff than driving. Cellphones, fucking around
                        with the radio. Operating their satnav while driving.

                        Ladies the mirrors fitted inside your car are NOT to do your makeup while
                        driving. Old folks that have zero visibility and a reaction response time
                        slower than a a turtle crawlings backwards.... You kids who THINK they
                        can drive showing off their pimped out ricers to their mates. The list
                        goes on and on. Whenever I want to get rid of my frustration by racing
                        cars. I head out to a track. I think all drivers should do that once every
                        while. Race your car in a controlled environment.....that would reduce
                        the amount of people who would race on public roads. Especially if they
                        crashed their car on a track once.....lol
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                        • volante
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                          • Mar 2002
                          • 2940

                          #62
                          Originally posted by ssp
                          Another thing that has been bugging me during my time here... is nobody uses their indicators. Now, maybe they should do a few campains for that.
                          Try spending a couple of years living in th USA - it's like they don't exist on American spec cars

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                          • ServerGenius
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 9377

                            #63
                            Originally posted by rowan
                            Being an experienced driver doesn't change the laws of physics. The faster you go the longer your stopping distance.
                            True but being an experienced driver makes you a lot more aware of the laws
                            of physics. By knowing what those laws of physics mean you adapt the way
                            you drive.......for example by looking on the road a lot further ahead than
                            regular drivers.

                            Experienced drivers still will be able to stop a car in less distance than
                            unexperienced drivers. Experienced drivers can avoid objects factor 10 times
                            better than inexperienced drivers coz they have much better control over their
                            vehicle and know exactly when to brake, stear and release breaks when they
                            have to do an emergency manouvre.

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                            • detoxed
                              vip member
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 17798

                              #64
                              Originally posted by jimthefiend
                              Wow. Only a judge or the BMV can do that here. Never just on the spot like that.


                              Really even when its 50 MPH over and reckless driving?

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                              • Dirty F
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 59204

                                #65
                                Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                I agree, I drive very defensive on the roads coz there's too many idiots on
                                the road too busy with other stuff than driving. Cellphones, fucking around
                                with the radio. Operating their satnav while driving.
                                I guess you dont realize that this is EXACTLY what those people are saying about you and others.
                                A poll last year showed that i believe 90% of all drivers think they are better drivers than other people.

                                Think about this. You are one of them.

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                                • ServerGenius
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                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 9377

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                  I guess you dont realize that this is EXACTLY what those people are saying about you and others.
                                  A poll last year showed that i believe 90% of all drivers think they are better drivers than other people.

                                  Think about this. You are one of them.
                                  Francky my friend you just try to push my buttons and it ain't working.
                                  If you're really that concerned about my driving skills then I'm more than happy
                                  to do an advanced driving test on a track together with you at a driving school
                                  and track of your choice. We'll make it a nice day with a romantic diner, take
                                  pics and hold hands while we're taking the tests.
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                                  • Dirty F
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 59204

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                    Francky my friend you just try to push my buttons and it ain't working.
                                    If you're really that concerned about my driving skills then I'm more than happy
                                    to do an advanced driving test on a track together with you at a driving school
                                    and track of your choice. We'll make it a nice day with a romantic diner, take
                                    pics and hold hands while we're taking the tests.

                                    Im not trying to push anything. Im just trying to get you to realize that 9 out of 10 people think EXACTLY the same as you. And that are the same people who cause accidents. (just like the other 10% btw).

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                                    • justsexxx
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                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 13723

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by ssp
                                      Who really cares what you drive? I couldn't give a shit about your exhaustpipe-the-size-of-a-chimney-Honda Civic.
                                      Lol what the fuck is wrong with a Honda Civic Type R?

                                      Questions?

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                                      • justsexxx
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                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 13723

                                        #69
                                        BTW HANS, check www.flitsservice.nl
                                        Questions?

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                                        • ServerGenius
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                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 9377

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                          BTW HANS, check www.flitsservice.nl
                                          hehehe I know that site.....but I always forget to check it before I leave
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                                          • ServerGenius
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                                            • Feb 2002
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Franck
                                            Im not trying to push anything. Im just trying to get you to realize that 9 out of 10 people think EXACTLY the same as you. And that are the same people who cause accidents. (just like the other 10% btw).
                                            But those 9 persons aren't me Francky boy. I guess you're not up for the
                                            challenge then......what a suprise
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                                            • justsexxx
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 13723

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                              hehehe I know that site.....but I always forget to check it before I leave
                                              Just curious, look at 'historie' is your 'laser check' listed?

                                              Andre
                                              Questions?

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                                              • ServerGenius
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 9377

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                Just curious, look at 'historie' is your 'laser check' listed?

                                                Andre
                                                Nee hij staat er NIET tussen.

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                                                • justsexxx
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                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 13723

                                                  #74
                                                  Hmm okee///
                                                  Questions?

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                                                  • Dirty F
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 59204

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                                    But those 9 persons aren't me Francky boy. I guess you're not up for the
                                                    challenge then......what a suprise

                                                    Thats EXACTLY what those 9 persons will tell you.

                                                    Seriously, go ask random people, they will be exactly as convinced as you...maybe even more.

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