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  • ServerGenius
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    • Feb 2002
    • 9377

    #1

    Cops conviscated my drivers license

    I was driving home from work.....I pass a speedtrap....but wasn't driving too
    fast....200 meters there's traffic lights and they jump to green. Nobody on
    the fucking road....so I speed up so that I don't have to wait another round
    for nothing.....right before I'm at the traffic light some cop jumps from behind
    a fucking tree......yeah that's right a tree and pulls me over.

    Turns out that they had another speed trap with guys with those laserguns
    that got me while I was driving 53 Km/h too fast. I mean come on, no traffic
    on the road. I past the first speed trap without driving too fast. So just
    because I speed up a bit to catch the green light I get fucked.

    That will be around a 800 euro fine to get back
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  • jimthefiend
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 18889

    #2
    Wow. Only a judge or the BMV can do that here. Never just on the spot like that.

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    • gangbangjoe
      Ronin
      • May 2004
      • 17693

      #3
      kids getting raped



      babys gettin murdered



      but the road is safe again




      sometimes i really wonder if they have nothing better to do

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      • FuqALot
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        • Dec 2001
        • 3817

        #4
        I agree with you that it's fucking bs to get your license while you pay shitloads of tax and all that shit, but on the other hand when you decided to speed a bit more for the light you were probably already doing way past the maximum speed. And you should never ever speed near traffic lights hehe.

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        • Stallion
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          • Jan 2001
          • 6632

          #5
          was your license suspended? I think that's the only way they can seize it here.. or if its a fake..
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          • Stallion
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            • Jan 2001
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            #6
            course your in a different country, whole set of different laws..
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            • ServerGenius
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              • Feb 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by FuqALot
              I agree with you that it's fucking bs to get your license while you pay shitloads of tax and all that shit, but on the other hand when you decided to speed a bit more for the light you were probably already doing way past the maximum speed. And you should never ever speed near traffic lights hehe.
              No I didn't I passed the first speed trap 200 meters before that without going
              too fast. that's like 250 yards.
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              • ServerGenius
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                • Feb 2002
                • 9377

                #8
                In Holland if they catch you speeding 50Km/h or more they conviscate it.
                Even for foreigners. Then you have to call somebody to pick you up coz
                you're not allowed to drive anymore. I'll get a letter in the mail this week
                which tells me where I should show up for a hearing. Then they will decide
                the fine and if I get it back inmediately or if it gets suspended for x amount
                of time.

                Since this is the first time I'll probably get it back with a 800 euro fine.
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                • volante
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                  • Mar 2002
                  • 2940

                  #9
                  Laser cameras can be very inaccurate:

                  Tests undertaken at the manufacturer's direction have shown that, under certain circumstances, one of the guns, the popular LTI 20-20 Ultralyte model, has shown brick walls travelling at 44mph, an empty road 33mph, a parked car at 22mph, and a slow-moving bicycle at 66mph.
                  http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/def...?storyId=13411

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                  • ssp
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                    • Jan 2005
                    • 7990

                    #10
                    Imagine the little girl who was walking her dog ran across the road because she lost control of the leash. And there are you, driving 103km/h on a city road. Unable to stop because of the speed, you hit the girl instantly crushing her skull resulting in death.

                    Sorry but there is no excuse for speeding man.

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                    • jacked
                      sperm tail
                      • May 2004
                      • 11019

                      #11
                      in new jersey if you double the speed limit they can take your license on the spot

                      it sucks man but what can you do just pay it and move on
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                      • Jensen
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                        • Apr 2001
                        • 3790

                        #12
                        come on, you were going 53 Km/h too fast and you complain? you didnt "get fucked" you fucked up bigtime yourself..

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                        • volante
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                          • Mar 2002
                          • 2940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ssp
                          Imagine the little girl who was walking her dog ran across the road because she lost control of the leash. And there are you, driving 103km/h on a city road. Unable to stop because of the speed, you hit the girl instantly crushing her skull resulting in death.

                          Sorry but there is no excuse for speeding man.
                          Image driving at the speed limit but you're so busy watching out for cameras and watching your speedometer that you don't have time to watch the road properly. That little girl is just as dead, and accidents like this are happening more and more often.

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                          • dynastoned
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 5061

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gangbangjoe
                            kids getting raped



                            babys gettin murdered



                            but the road is safe again




                            sometimes i really wonder if they have nothing better to do
                            theres no money in stopping rapes and preventing murders. on the other hand passing out tickets pays the bills.

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                            • headless ghost
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                              • May 2005
                              • 893

                              #15
                              if you can't handle losing don't gamble.

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                              • xato
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1205

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Jensen
                                come on, you were going 53 Km/h too fast and you complain? you didnt "get fucked" you fucked up bigtime yourself..

                                oh yeah its such a baaaaad crime to go 50 too fast. especially at times where there is nobody on the road. i would not just confiscate his licence i would put him into jail for at least 10 years.







                                disclaimer: this post contains irony to a great extent

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                                • xato
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 1205

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by headless ghost
                                  if you can't handle losing don't gamble.

                                  some truth in that.
                                  however most cops are even worse than gambling.

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                                  • Jensen
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                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 3790

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by volante
                                    Image driving at the speed limit but you're so busy watching out for cameras and watching your speedometer that you don't have time to watch the road properly. That little girl is just as dead, and accidents like this are happening more and more often.
                                    if they can't watch the road, take the licence away.. not that fucking hard to keep the limits and if you have to watch out for cameras, you're already speeding...

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                                    • headless ghost
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                                      • May 2005
                                      • 893

                                      #19
                                      [QUOTE=xato]oh yeah its such a baaaaad crime to go 50 too fast. especially at times where there is nobody on the road. i would not just confiscate his licence i would put him into jail for at least 10 years.

                                      he just bought a new porn video.
                                      he was in a big hurry to get home and jerk off.

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                                      • Manowar
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                                        • Dec 2003
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                                        #20
                                        that sucks

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                                        • Dirty F
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                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 59204

                                          #21
                                          Dude you drive too fast, youre the one to blame. No one else. Ofcourse you have an excuse why you are allowed to drive fast...and the person in front of you as well and the person behind you as well. Every person thinks he has a valid reason to drive too fast. I wonder why there are so many accidents caused by speeding with all these responsible drivers who know what they are doing. Sounds a bit like ALL the responsible gun owners to me.

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                                          • ServerGenius
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                                            • Feb 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ssp
                                            Imagine the little girl who was walking her dog ran across the road because she lost control of the leash. And there are you, driving 103km/h on a city road. Unable to stop because of the speed, you hit the girl instantly crushing her skull resulting in death.

                                            Sorry but there is no excuse for speeding man.
                                            at the back of Amsterdam Sloterdijk? An area with nothing but companies?
                                            Did you read at all? Nobody on the road? Each driving direction 2 lanes
                                            seperated by a strip of grass and bushes, only a possibility to turn
                                            left? Nothing coming from the right coz there is nothing? While I speed up
                                            I look at the road and NOT at my speedometer just in case a baby rabbit
                                            might jump on the road.
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                                            • ServerGenius
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                              Dude you drive too fast, youre the one to blame. No one else. Ofcourse you have an excuse why you are allowed to drive fast...and the person in front of you as well and the person behind you as well. Every person thinks he has a valid reason to drive too fast. I wonder why there are so many accidents caused by speeding with all these responsible drivers who know what they are doing. Sounds a bit like ALL the responsible gun owners to me.
                                              I have no excuse for driving too fast. In fact I admit to it. I just explained
                                              why and gave my opinion why I think it's a bit cheesy considering the
                                              situation at hand.

                                              I'm not looking for a cheap way out. I just shared what happened,
                                              will pay the fine and get my license back. That doesn't mean I can't feel
                                              a little pissed off about it now can I? As usual you're making assumptions
                                              that aren't even there.
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                                              • Dirty F
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                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 59204

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                                I have no excuse for driving too fast. In fact I admit to it. I just explained
                                                why and gave my opinion why I think it's a bit cheesy considering the
                                                situation at hand.

                                                I'm not looking for a cheap way out. I just shared what happened,
                                                will pay the fine and get my license back. That doesn't mean I can't feel
                                                a little pissed off about it now can I? As usual you're making assumptions
                                                that aren't even there.
                                                As usual? Im very often right with my assumptions dickshit.

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                                                • Dirty F
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                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 59204

                                                  #25
                                                  Did they film you for "blik op de weg"?

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                                                  • Jensen
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                                                    • Apr 2001
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by xato
                                                    oh yeah its such a baaaaad crime to go 50 too fast. especially at times where there is nobody on the road. i would not just confiscate his licence i would put him into jail for at least 10 years.







                                                    disclaimer: this post contains irony to a great extent
                                                    he'd be looking forward to jail if this was in norway.. +16 months without his licence.. you lose you licence in a 50 zone if you go 26km/h over up here..

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                                                    • xato
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Jensen
                                                      he'd be looking forward to jail if this was in norway.. +16 months without his licence.. you lose you licence in a 50 zone if you go 26km/h over up here..

                                                      damn... you have some fucked up laws over there.
                                                      i HIGHLY doubt that these laws make your accident-statistics any lower than in other european countries...

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                                                      • volante
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                                                        • Mar 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Franck
                                                        I wonder why there are so many accidents caused by speeding with all these responsible drivers who know what they are doing.
                                                        According to British police data, only 10% of contributory factors in an accident are related to excessive speed:

                                                        http://www.safespeed.org.uk/aands.html

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                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by xato
                                                          oh yeah its such a baaaaad crime to go 50 too fast. especially at times where there is nobody on the road. i would not just confiscate his licence i would put him into jail for at least 10 years.







                                                          disclaimer: this post contains irony to a great extent

                                                          Its people like you who cause accidents. The responsible speeder....right. You know every person who killed someone because of speeding thought the way you do right?

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                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 59204

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by volante
                                                            According to British police data, only 10% of contributory factors in an accident are related to excessive speed:

                                                            http://www.safespeed.org.uk/aands.html

                                                            Thats how many people who died because those "responsible" drivers thought they were allowed to drive faster?

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                                                            • ServerGenius
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                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                                              Did they film you for "blik op de weg"?

                                                              lol no they didn't I'll make a pic of the fine when I get it.
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                                                              • Jensen
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                                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by xato
                                                                damn... you have some fucked up laws over there.
                                                                i HIGHLY doubt that these laws make your accident-statistics any lower than in other european countries...
                                                                to be hounest.. the persons I know that have lost their licences and ended up behind bars were always the dumbest in knew and had other issues with the police.. just a personal remark about the people I know

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                                                                • volante
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                                                                  • Mar 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                  Thats how many people who died because those "responsible" drivers thought they were allowed to drive faster?
                                                                  No, those are just accidents - a fatality occurs in about 0.01% of accidents.

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                                                                  • xato
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Franck
                                                                    Thats how many people who died because those "responsible" drivers thought they were allowed to drive faster?

                                                                    cant you read or what?
                                                                    its only 10% that accidents were related to excessive speeding?
                                                                    is that enough to accuse me of causing accidents without even knowing me?
                                                                    you, sir, are an idiot.

                                                                    what about the other 90%?

                                                                    if 90% of the accidents happen because the drivers are too stupid to drive cautious and provident or because they are drunk or for whatever reason the accident happened, then i for sure would go after those 10% of the accidents that were caused because of speeding...

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                                                                    • RevDennis
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                                                                      • Sep 2005
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      that sucks man! thanks for the call you gave me on my way home.
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                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by xato
                                                                        cant you read or what?
                                                                        its only 10% that accidents were related to excessive speeding?
                                                                        is that enough to accuse me of causing accidents without even knowing me?
                                                                        you, sir, are an idiot.

                                                                        what about the other 90%?

                                                                        if 90% of the accidents happen because the drivers are too stupid to drive cautious and provident or because they are drunk or for whatever reason the accident happened, then i for sure would go after those 10% of the accidents that were caused because of speeding...

                                                                        10% of the accidents caused by speeding is exactly 10% too much. Yes, you think you are above the safety rules your country made (not without a reason) so yes, youre a danger on the road. What if all people would think like you? What if everybody drives too fast because they think they can. You should be happy not everyone is like you. The road would be highly dangerous. I hope you will never get an accident because you think youre allowed to drive too fast. And if you do i hope the only person who will get hurt is you.

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                                                                        • volante
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by xato
                                                                          what about the other 90%?


                                                                          That 10% is "excessive speed", which is NOT the same as breaking the speed limit. Of that 10%, 30% were breaking the speed limit, or 3% overall.

                                                                          That means pedestrians are twice as likely to be the main contributing factor in an accident as drivers breaking the speed limit...

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                                                                          • ssp
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                                                                            • Jan 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by xato
                                                                            cant you read or what?
                                                                            its only 10% that accidents were related to excessive speeding?
                                                                            is that enough to accuse me of causing accidents without even knowing me?
                                                                            you, sir, are an idiot.

                                                                            what about the other 90%?

                                                                            if 90% of the accidents happen because the drivers are too stupid to drive cautious and provident or because they are drunk or for whatever reason the accident happened, then i for sure would go after those 10% of the accidents that were caused because of speeding...
                                                                            You have no right to an opinion you clueless troll. You can't compare British statistics with Dutch ones, plus the way people drive, the landscape and the roadstructure is completely different.

                                                                            You sound like one of those 19 year old boys with a second hand souped up Nissan Micra doing those streetraces with 4 of your drunk buddies in the backseat of your car. Bling bling, look at you! You're so awesome.

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                                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ssp
                                                                              You sound like one of those 19 year old boys with a second hand souped up Nissan Micra doing those streetraces with 4 of your drunk buddies in the backseat of your car. Bling bling, look at you! You're so awesome.

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                                                                              • volante
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                You sound like one of those 19 year old boys with a second hand souped up Nissan Micra doing those streetraces with 4 of your drunk buddies in the backseat of your car. Bling bling, look at you! You're so awesome.
                                                                                Strangely enough (in the UK at least) 19 years olds are less likely to get a speeding ticket than middle aged drivers.

                                                                                They are however FAR more likely to be involved in a fatal accident due to drinking or careless driving (when was the last time you saw a speed camera that could detect something like that?), and figures for this are getting worse:

                                                                                http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...116254,00.html

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                                                                                • xato
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                  You have no right to an opinion you clueless troll. You can't compare British statistics with Dutch ones, plus the way people drive, the landscape and the roadstructure is completely different.

                                                                                  You sound like one of those 19 year old boys with a second hand souped up Nissan Micra doing those streetraces with 4 of your drunk buddies in the backseat of your car. Bling bling, look at you! You're so awesome.

                                                                                  you'd cry if you knew which cars i drive and have driven.

                                                                                  this thread is full of idiots. you and franck are the best examples.

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                                                                                  • Dirty F
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                                                                                    • Jul 2001
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by xato
                                                                                    you'd cry if you knew which cars i drive and have driven.

                                                                                    this thread is full of idiots. you and franck are the best examples.

                                                                                    Give me one reason why you are allowed to speed and others arent.

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                                                                                    • xato
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                      Give me one reason why you are allowed to speed and others arent.

                                                                                      show me where have claimed that i should be allowed to speed and others shouldnt.

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                                                                                      • ssp
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by xato
                                                                                        you'd cry if you knew which cars i drive and have driven.

                                                                                        this thread is full of idiots. you and franck are the best examples.
                                                                                        Who really cares what you drive? I couldn't give a shit about your exhaustpipe-the-size-of-a-chimney-Honda Civic.

                                                                                        Of course, you wouldn't be be the boardpimp if your grannie or your little dog got killed by one of your homies tomorrow. Boo fucking hoo right?

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                                                                                        • xato
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                          Who really cares what you drive? I couldn't give a shit about your exhaustpipe-the-size-of-a-chimney-Honda Civic.

                                                                                          Of course, you wouldn't be be the boardpimp if your grannie or your little dog got killed by one of your homies tomorrow. Boo fucking hoo right?

                                                                                          you obviously do, otherwise you wouldnt have come up with the stupid indignities of the nissan micra or the honda civic shit.

                                                                                          anyways, its 90% likely that your granny will get killed on the road by careless driving, inattention, alcohol or drugs or any others of those factors. its only 10% likely that this will happen due to excessive speeding where only 30% of this means breaking the speedlimit, so a total of 3% probability remains for your grannys death to be caused by breaking the speed limit.

                                                                                          ok you really are an idiot.


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                                                                                          • ssp
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by xato
                                                                                            you obviously do, otherwise you wouldnt have come up with the stupid indignities of the nissan micra or the honda civic shit.

                                                                                            anyways, its 90% likely that your granny will get killed on the road by careless driving, inattention, alcohol or drugs or any others of those factors. its only 10% likely that this will happen due to excessive speeding where only 30% of this means breaking the speedlimit, so a total of 3% probability remains for your grannys death to be caused by breaking the speed limit.

                                                                                            ok you really are an idiot.

                                                                                            Do do realise those statistics are incomplete 2001 statistics about 2 out of 81 counties in the UK, which you are using to backup your whatever point it is you're trying to make?

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                                                                                            • volante
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                              Do do realise those statistics are incomplete 2001 statistics about 2 out of 81 counties in the UK, which you are using to backup your whatever point it is you're trying to make?

                                                                                              I did have stats for the entire country at one point but I deleted the bookmark by accident. As I recall those are pretty representative of the entire UK. Can't speak for other countries, but the UK does have one of the best (if not the best) safety records in the world. At least until they started reducing traffic police numbers in favour of speed cameras...

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                                                                                              • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I don't want to claim that driving is safer.....however when I speak for myself.
                                                                                                Whenever I drive faster I'm more concentrated then when I drive slow.
                                                                                                I have been racing cars and motorbikes since I was 3 years old (on circuits and tracks)
                                                                                                I normally don't race on public roads but like anyone else I aswell am in a hurry
                                                                                                sometimes or drive faster than allowed when the roads are dead quiet.

                                                                                                whenever I drive slow I get distracted a lot faster by all kinds of stuff. When
                                                                                                I drive faster I'm much more focussed on the road and traffic. Because of
                                                                                                my racing experience I look much further ahead on the road than regular
                                                                                                drivers and I can my reaction time is a lot faster aswell and I have much
                                                                                                better control over motorvehicules than people who learned driving at age
                                                                                                18 in a driving school. I have attended and given loads of advanced driving
                                                                                                courses
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                                                                                                • xato
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                                  Do do realise those statistics are incomplete 2001 statistics about 2 out of 81 counties in the UK, which you are using to backup your whatever point it is you're trying to make?


                                                                                                  so what?
                                                                                                  does this mean that they are not saying anything, just because they are just statistics of 2 out of 81?
                                                                                                  maybe the other statistics say that even a less percentage of excessive speeding results in accidents.

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                                                                                                  • iwantchixx
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    learn to spell and obey traffic laws.

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