Who needs affiliates when your site is getting millions of free hits from media publicity?
I understand business is business, but with affiliates sending millions of hits to GGW tours (without Ashley) one can just imagine how many sales were lost. Just adding one picture of Ashley to one of the affiliate tours like they did the main page would've generated thousands of more sales.
The hype is starting to die a little, I can see it in my search engine traffic.
Just need to stay on top of the news waiting for the next train wreck.
I understand business is business, but with affiliates sending millions of hits to GGW tours (without Ashley) one can just imagine how many sales were lost. Just adding one picture of Ashley to one of the affiliate tours like they did the main page would've generated thousands of more sales.
I'm sure that if the lawyers said it could be used, banners and tour updates would have flown within minutes.
A few affiliates crying for her to be added is the last thing they were worrying about when deciding to add a 17 year old girl to the tours. Atleast you hope it would be.
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Who needs affiliates when your site is getting millions of free hits from media publicity?
I understand business is business, but with affiliates sending millions of hits to GGW tours (without Ashley) one can just imagine how many sales were lost. Just adding one picture of Ashley to one of the affiliate tours like they did the main page would've generated thousands of more sales.
Yea I agree...... too bad they cut the affiliates out on this one. Long after this bitch is old news we will remember that.
I'm sure that if the lawyers said it could be used, banners and tour updates would have flown within minutes.
A few affiliates crying for her to be added is the last thing they were worrying about when deciding to add a 17 year old girl to the tours. Atleast you hope it would be.
That is absurd. If they had legal concerns she would not be on the main page tour. When surfers get sent to a tour without any promo for Ashley they just type in the main page tour and see what they find (and no the Nats code does not transfer over as any traffic sent to the join page off the main page tour gets a new Nats code inserted). They just don't see any need to give affiliates a cut when they are getting all the money from type ins. When the type ins die down then they will let affiliates in on it. Too bad the announced the first night that affiliate links and promo would be ready at 3 AM.... and then never delivered.
I should point out that despite my aggravation about some of this, my Girls Gone Wild links I do have up to the non Ashley tours are currently converting at 1:295........ you can just imagine how they are doing on the main tour with type ins.
I should point out that despite my aggravation about some of this, my Girls Gone Wild links I do have up to the non Ashley tours are currently converting at 1:295........ you can just imagine how they are doing on the main tour with type ins.
1:295.. not bad.. but nothing special
Expect the complete, clear stats report when the hype is over
Same here, mine are 1:210 and machete showed me a screenprint of his stats...1:112 I think. I bet 90% of the signups are for the $4.99 trial just for a glimpse of ashley then cancel - w/ affiliates making 30-35 pps. There is definitely more to this than meets the eye.
This scandal has got to be driving tons of great traffic.
Are there any pictures of her inside that aren't on the front page? If I were a surfer, I'd be charging back in a heartbeat if I saw the front page and there weren't any flashing pics inside. What may be "tons of traffic" today could be a charge back nightmare tomorrow.
It would likely never get to court for that very reason... Don't think a jury is going to convict someone for filming a girl naked that was 10 or so days short of her 18th birthday.
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Ill have to pass on that one. Those would be $50 down the toilet.
Friday is a holiday, weekend also, monday is a holiday.. so i dont expect anything before tuesday or even wednesday..
Are there any pictures of her inside that aren't on the front page? If I were a surfer, I'd be charging back in a heartbeat if I saw the front page and there weren't any flashing pics inside. What may be "tons of traffic" today could be a charge back nightmare tomorrow.
Good question. My guess is there are, but I can't say for sure. Someone needs to address this issue definitively.
Ill have to pass on that one. Those would be $50 down the toilet.
Friday is a holiday, weekend also, monday is a holiday.. so i dont expect anything before tuesday or even wednesday..
Where do you live? Friday and Monday are not holidays and it is still early Thursday here (where GGW is located).
There is no technical problems, you simply add a new tour page or alter an original one.
It takes 10 mins max.
There is a tour with Ashley on it. Look at www.girlsgonewild.com. She has been up since yesterday morning. They are just not allowing affiliates to send traffic to that tour. If you send traffic to that tour your Nats code is overwritten with another code on the join page.
It is no technical issue it is just a business decision. I disagree with it but it is their right to do it how they want.
Confuses me that they are putting her up on their front page and advertising "more inside $29.99/m" they are exposed to some serious misleading and advertising issues. Especially with the spotlight on them you would think they would use more caution. Going to pass on promoting...
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we're getting that fixed. I'm hoping they finish it by today. It wasn't supposed to work that way.
in the uk, we have a saying.
if it smell like bullshit, it is bullshit.
please stop telling us what your chaps are going to do, and just do it.
do you realy think any of us belives it takes all this time to sort things out?
if they are not going to give us the links/content, at least just say, it saves wasting all our time.
at least we can post a link saying see her on ggw and put a link to the site. i bet there are webmasters that could be sending you millions of hits, but not yet doing so as they are expecting real links or content.
so eather get it sorted in the next 10 mins or just say it aint going to happen so your not messing us about.
please stop telling us what your chaps are going to do, and just do it.
do you realy think any of us belives it takes all this time to sort things out?
if they are not going to give us the links/content, at least just say, it saves wasting all our time.
at least we can post a link saying see her on ggw and put a link to the site. i bet there are webmasters that could be sending you millions of hits, but not yet doing so as they are expecting real links or content.
so eather get it sorted in the next 10 mins or just say it aint going to happen so your not messing us about.
the exit pops are a separate issue and the implementation wasn't done correctly. That's not a 5 minute fix.
As for the content, I really don't have answers for you as yet, it's a contractual matter, and again, not a 5 minute fix. I'm sorry we don't have something for you. I'm not making money on search traffic.
the exit pops are a separate issue and the implementation wasn't done correctly. That's not a 5 minute fix.
Coming from 3 years of being a NATS consultant working for 30-40 different programs... Yes, yes it is. If your tech guys can't fix the popup code in a reasonable time (maybe not 5, but more like 20) on something as crucial as popping exits on non-popup traffic (way to make your tgp submitting affiliates lose their partner accounts), you need new tech guys.
I bet the ggw affiliate managers each have a bottle of whiskey on their desks. I cant imagine having 1000s of rabid affiliates at my throat.
Lorenzo why cant your designers take 10 min to edit one of the tours to include her pic - shes already on the front page?
Unfortunately I think the tour/promos will be posted *after* the hype has worn down and those 1:200 ratios will be 1:1000+.
Whiskey is fine. I prefer Maker's Mark bourbon, neat please.
I'm giving you guys the info that is passed along to me. I really do understand your pain, I'm feeling it right along with you. This isn't fun, but hey, I get it. Part of my job is getting the blowback from affiliates when things go wrong. Comes with the territory.
Coming from 3 years of being a NATS consultant working for 30-40 different programs... Yes, yes it is. If your tech guys can't fix the popup code in a reasonable time (maybe not 5, but more like 20) on something as crucial as popping exits on non-popup traffic (way to make your tgp submitting affiliates lose their partner accounts), you need new tech guys.
I'm not gonna argue cuz I have no clue about NATS programming. I'm simply acting as the messenger here. Once again, I'll take the heat cuz it's my job but I'm simply relaying info to you. I don't know exactly what the technical issues are and I'm sure I"m oversimplifying them because they're being oversimplified to me.
I've been available to all the affiliates day and night (except last night, I took a few hours off and made love to a bottle of bourbon) and will continue to be available to you guys here, email or icq.
As I know more, you will. Unfortunately I don't always have the luxury of having the information you'd like most.
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