Obama Just Knocked It Out Of The Park

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  • ADL Colin
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2001
    • 11929

    #61
    Originally posted by CosmicTang
    true, but how many have delivered it?
    Difficult to even analyze as the voting age wasn't lowered to 18 until 1972. The 18-21 age group voted pretty well that year - no doubt partly due to all the exposure - and then slipped from there for the most part.

    I would bet that "Rock the Vote" has convinced more young people to vote than any one candidate.


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    • Telly
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      • Jul 2007
      • 334

      #62
      Originally posted by escorpio
      Then you should probably start backing Clinton. Obama doesn't stand a chance.
      If Clinton wins then voting doesn't seem worth it. Then again I'm in Hawaii and our votes mean shit.

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      • CosmicTang
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        • Feb 2007
        • 1478

        #63
        Originally posted by escorpio
        Are you asking what dems have won the election in my lifetime? JFK, LBJ, Carter and Clinton. I was too young to remember the first two.

        Why do people act like it's a BFD that Obama is going to deliver the youth vote? The dems have ALWAYS had the youth vote.
        Not asking that at all. Nor am I disputing that Dems generally win the majority of the youth vote. Simply winning the majority of the young vote is not 'delivering' it.

        I'm talking about getting numbers to the polls and participating and showing the passion that only young people can. Getting them involved in the process and feeling like they really have a stake in the system instead of the stereotypical apathy that's always associated with them.
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        • Fletch XXX
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          • Jan 2002
          • 60840

          #64
          The problem with speeches these days is the people mouthing the words didnt have shit to do with writing the speech.

          Fuck words, I believe in ACTION.

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          • Nikki_Licks
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            • May 2005
            • 6323

            #65
            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
            2 piles of shit hugging each other!
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            • Drake
              Hello world!
              • Mar 2003
              • 12508

              #66
              Originally posted by escorpio
              Are you asking what dems have won the election in my lifetime? JFK, LBJ, Carter and Clinton. I was too young to remember the first two.

              Why do people act like it's a BFD that Obama is going to deliver the youth vote? The dems have ALWAYS had the youth vote.
              In this election youth have come out in record numbers to exercise their right to vote. Isn't this basically indisputable at this point? Maybe the numbers will dwindle as we go forward, but it's started off stronger than anything seen before.

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              • escorpio
                I love to racism, bro!
                • Oct 2002
                • 23487

                #67
                Originally posted by CosmicTang
                Not asking that at all. Nor am I disputing that Dems generally win the majority of the youth vote. Simply winning the majority of the young vote is not 'delivering' it.
                I'm talking about getting numbers to the polls and participating and showing the passion that only young people can. Getting them involved in the process and feeling like they really have a stake in the system instead of the stereotypical apathy that's always associated with them.
                If you don't win the election it really doesn't matter how passionate you made the kids feel.
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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
                  I don't know, something about Obama... when he talks, I just don't believe him. He comes across as a liar. It's purely a gut feeling but it really bothers me. Of course we all know Bush lies through his teeth but somehow he at least seems like he believes his BS as it comes through his lips.
                  Has always been a matter of the best liar wins.

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                  • Drake
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 12508

                    #69
                    It should concern anybody that McCain has aligned himself and his policies with a person who has been voted as the worst President in history, and yet he still stands a chance to win.

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                    • baddog
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                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ninavain
                      Oh really, please name some
                      Read the thread.

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                      • CosmicTang
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1478

                        #71
                        Originally posted by escorpio
                        If you don't win the election it really doesn't matter how passionate you made the kids feel.
                        I disagree. Motivating a generation to get involved is huge no matter what the outcome. Many might stay involved long past this election cycle. That's even bigger.
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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #72
                          Originally posted by escorpio
                          The dems have ALWAYS had the youth vote.
                          Quoted for truth.

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #73
                            Originally posted by cashpimps
                            If Clinton wins then voting doesn't seem worth it. Then again I'm in Hawaii and our votes mean shit.
                            Precisely why McCain has this won.

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                            • Drake
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 12508

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                              The problem with speeches these days is the people mouthing the words didnt have shit to do with writing the speech.

                              Fuck words, I believe in ACTION.
                              Time constraints essentially prohibit this. Presidents and candidates can't spend days ironing out speeches while campaigning, or reviewing legislation, or meeting with public figures, and flying all over the world etc. The days of Lincoln in the 19th century when politics was slower and there was no mass media are long gone and have been for decades now.

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                              • TheSenator
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 13340

                                #75
                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                Baddog is old skweel and would never understand.


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