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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Thanks for the heads up and observations FTP. You know better than most my personal feelings about pirates and my suggestions on bringing them down. Sadly my personal feelings and business logic are in conflict.
Tube sites have the traffic, simple as that. Look at their rankings and see them climbing. To maintain those rankings they have to have good content the surfer wants to see and come back to. Yes long clips are better than short clips and at this point we're not giving out long clips, most are 4 minutes long and any longer are very probably illegal. Anyone can inform me of longer clips.
Will the surfer come over to see the site that supplied the clip to get the full length scene and lots more? Yes and they are. Tube site is earning and so are we. I now feel the next step is to match some surfers needs, the surfers who don't need 30 days for $30.
One of the reasons I crossed over and decided to give content to Tube sites was the ineffectiveness of those fighting them. Their reasons never were content theft, it was traffic loss that motivated them.
After how long, 2 or 3 years of most people ranting on boards and a few doing something how far are we in the fight against illegal Tube sites? Some are looking to stopping surfers uploading, many are very compliant to removing anything and lots are looking to form partnerships with content owners. Some are even asking about buying content.
So let's all Fight the Pirate.
After 2 years how many Tube sites have closed, have gone out of business, have less traffic, have less supporters? There are more today than 2 years ago, more surfers and more supporters. Sorry but the fight is over.
To those who will tell me they never sent traffic or bought content and because of our decision they will never send traffic or buy content in the future. Stop and think for 2 minutes. You're not going to change our decisions by not doing what you have never done. If you want us to change then start sending traffic or buying content on the understanding we don't use it to our best interests. Yes it's about the money, the same thing that motivates you.
So to the future.
We are building a library of 3-4 minutes clips for Tube sites or/and Torrent sites. Or anyone else who can send traffic that signs up. Access to the section is limited, the content in that area is also limited. It will be in the section on a rotating basis so no one gets a lot at once.
We have a few provisos though.
!. You display the clip next to a banner of our sites.
2. You try to ensure no surfers upload our content.
3. You send sign ups.
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Which is exactly why I made my first post. You don't seem to get how it all works Paul. You think redtube or youporn got as big as they are by offering 3 minute videos? Are you insane? They did so by offering full length videos and loads of content that is nearly entirely unlicensed and stolen from paysites. The very same paysites many webmasters are trying to sell memberships to.
You want to offer your content for use in torrent format Paul heh? Please tell me how a webmaster is going to get credit for that? You know how torrents work Paul? Of course you don't.
Now you want to hold webmasters to ransom? Send traffic or we are uploading our videos to redtube!! Lets all fight the pirate you say. Then you proudly announce you are now doing business with the pirates because of the 'invectiveness' of others to 'shut them down'. You mock the current paysite/affiliate model but yet it is the same model you yourself use. Do you ever stop to think how hypocritical you sound when writing your 400 word essays ?
I must admit I often get a laugh from your posts Paul , have a good night mate.
