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  • blogman9
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    • Dec 2005
    • 1261

    #1

    HTML IE bug, help me !!

    My site: http://adultdigg.com on firefox is OK, but IE does'nt looks good, where is bug ?
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  • grumpy
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2002
    • 9870

    #2
    Its no bug, its called skills. Use stylesheets.
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    • marketsmart
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      • Dec 2004
      • 20419

      #3
      Originally posted by grumpy
      Its no bug, its called skills. Use stylesheets.
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      • blogman9
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2005
        • 1261

        #4
        Can you post more information ?
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        • marketsmart
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          • Dec 2004
          • 20419

          #5
          btw its fine for me in ie...

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          • RazorSharpe
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2001
            • 2238

            #6
            hate to break it to you guys but even when using CSS you will always find inconsistencies between the two browsers and will probably need to use if statements within your stylesheets. Using stylesheets, while convenient, isn't the answer to fixing problems experienced between the two browsers.

            ...
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            • blogman9
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              • Dec 2005
              • 1261

              #7
              but not for me
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              • RazorSharpe
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 2238

                #8
                Originally posted by blogman9
                but not for me
                post a screenshot of how you see it in IE.
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                • blogman9
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1261

                  #9
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                  • jjjay
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1813

                    #10
                    I would look, but you didn't even say please.

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                    • JD
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 22651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blogman9
                      3px bug. make your post area smaller

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                      • blogman9
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                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1261

                        #12
                        sorry, my english form isn't good Please help me
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                        • potter
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6559

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                          hate to break it to you guys but even when using CSS you will always find inconsistencies between the two browsers and will probably need to use if statements within your stylesheets. Using stylesheets, while convenient, isn't the answer to fixing problems experienced between the two browsers.

                          ...
                          No. If someone is skilled with css, it is very possible to make cross browser compatible css. Using if statements is taking the easy way out.

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                          • blogman9
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1261

                            #14
                            Post Area ? On main page i didn't see any post area
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                            • chadglni
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 6924

                              #15
                              IE7 fucks up a ton of CSS. Even some of the big WP templates that are around are all fucked in IE7.


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                              • JD
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 22651

                                #16
                                Originally posted by potter
                                No. If someone is skilled with css, it is very possible to make cross browser compatible css. Using if statements is taking the easy way out.
                                potter may look like a drag queen but he know's what hes talking about

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                                • RazorSharpe
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 2238

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by potter
                                  No. If someone is skilled with css, it is very possible to make cross browser compatible css. Using if statements is taking the easy way out.
                                  If your site is bog standard and doesn't try to push the css envelope then no, you won't need to use conditional statements. If you want to serve curative style rules to IE then conditional statments are imperative so you can leave your stylesheet devoid of hacks.

                                  Having said that, just because you design using stylesheets does not mean you get cross browser compatibility. Stylesheets are just a means of separating design from content. One could just as easily design a site using what i wish were already deprecated font tags and tables and still achieve cross browser compatibility. This was essentially my point when i made my first post.

                                  ...
                                  Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                  • blogman9
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                                    • Dec 2005
                                    • 1261

                                    #18
                                    but, what I must change in CSS ?
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                                    • RazorSharpe
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                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 2238

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by chadglni
                                      IE7 fucks up a ton of CSS. Even some of the big WP templates that are around are all fucked in IE7.

                                      Hi chad, IE7 has a documented list of bugs that render CSS based sites unusable, ugly or both. This is where those conditional statements I mentioned would come in handy.

                                      http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx

                                      They seem to have fixed a few in the second beta but it isn't on the mark yet.

                                      ...
                                      Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                      • Scotty.T
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 1062

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by blogman9
                                        but, what I must change in CSS ?
                                        Try and change

                                        Code:
                                        width:555px;
                                        to a slightly lower value in the following block

                                        Code:
                                        #content
                                        
                                        {
                                        
                                        	background:#fff;
                                        
                                        	float:left;
                                        
                                        	padding:15px 10px;
                                        
                                        	width:555px;
                                        
                                        	border-right:1px solid #999999;
                                        
                                        	color:#000;
                                        
                                        }
                                        .

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                                        • RazorSharpe
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 2238

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by blogman9
                                          but, what I must change in CSS ?
                                          In style2.css find this:

                                          PHP Code:
                                          #content
                                          {
                                              background:#fff;
                                              float:left;
                                              padding:15px 10px;
                                              width:555px;
                                              border-right:1px solid #999999;
                                              color:#000;
                                          } 
                                          
                                          change it to this:

                                          PHP Code:
                                          #content
                                          {
                                              background:#fff;
                                              float:left;
                                              padding:15px 10px;
                                              width:552px;
                                              border-right:1px solid #999999;
                                              color:#000;
                                          } 
                                          
                                          then in the same stylesheet, style2.css, find this:

                                          PHP Code:
                                          #sidecontent
                                          {
                                              margin:0;
                                              padding:15px 0 0 0;
                                              float:right;
                                              width:164px;
                                          } 
                                          
                                          change it to this:

                                          PHP Code:
                                          #sidecontent
                                          {
                                              margin:0;
                                              padding:15px 0 0 0;
                                              float:right;
                                              width:167px;
                                          } 
                                          
                                          that may or may not work. I cannot seem to replicate your problem on my version of IE, although, I'm curious why you @import the 2 stylesheets and link to them for print media? Why not have a single print media sheet? What's up with that?

                                          ...
                                          Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                          • blogman9
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                                            • Dec 2005
                                            • 1261

                                            #22
                                            Thanks Scotty.T this is it
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                                            • blogman9
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                                              • Dec 2005
                                              • 1261

                                              #23
                                              Thanks RazorSharpe
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                                              • potter
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 6559

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                If your site is bog standard and doesn't try to push the css envelope then no, you won't need to use conditional statements. If you want to serve curative style rules to IE then conditional statments are imperative so you can leave your stylesheet devoid of hacks.

                                                Having said that, just because you design using stylesheets does not mean you get cross browser compatibility. Stylesheets are just a means of separating design from content. One could just as easily design a site using what i wish were already deprecated font tags and tables and still achieve cross browser compatibility. This was essentially my point when i made my first post.

                                                ...
                                                I push the envelope for design with everything I do. All of which is 100% pure css, w3c compliant code. Creating a cross browser layout without hacks or statements. Is simply knowing what can and can't be done. There are ten ways to do everything. Knowing the right one is what rates a person's skill and knowledge.

                                                My point was, if you know what you are doing. It is very easy to create a css based site which is cross browser compatible. It's simply experience which will give someone the proper knowledge to do so. Writing cross browser compatiblity isn't about hacks, proper or improper css. It's about knowing what style types and properties to use where and when.

                                                In the end. No blame can be put onto browsers for layout inconsistancies. That's just an easy way out for the coder to put the blame on something or someone other than him/herself.
                                                Last edited by potter; 03-29-2006, 12:46 PM.

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                                                • RazorSharpe
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 2238

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by potter
                                                  I push the envelope for design with everything I do. All of which is 100% pure css, w3c compliant code. Creating a cross browser layout without hacks or statements. Is simply knowing what can and can't be done. There are ten ways to do everything. Knowing the right one is what rates a person's skill and knowledge.

                                                  My point was, if you know what you are doing. It is very easy to create a css based site which is cross browser compatible. It's simply experience which will give someone the proper knowledge to do so. Writing cross browser compatiblity isn't about hacks, proper or improper css. It's about knowing what style types and properties to use where and when.

                                                  In the end. No blame can be put onto browsers for layout inconsistancies. That's just an easy way out for the coder to put the blame on something or someone other than him/herself.
                                                  To an extremely large degree what you're saying doesn't wash. If you are designing to achieve compliancy, which your site obviously does, this is precisely the time and place to use conditionals. For browsers that do not comply ... like IE5, etc.

                                                  The IE box model is no myth and no amount of experience will allow you to evade it without hacks or conditionals, unless you are totally neglecting a demographic that uses a non-compliant browser.

                                                  ...
                                                  Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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