Lets apply some logic to the Charlie Sheen 9/11 theory

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  • kenny
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 7245

    #251
    Charlie Sheen is a fucking idiot and so is anyone that believes this shit about missiles and bombs

    True we may never know everything about 911..

    But some of the shit I read on GFY is profoundly retarded.

    Hitting our own buildings with planes/missiles just isn't enough - we have to blow them up afterwards
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    • PurrrsianPussyKat
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2004
      • 2088

      #252
      Excellent video of BYU Professor Steven E Jones. Lots of great info in here!

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      • SmokeyTheBear
        ►SouthOfHeaven
        • Jun 2004
        • 28609

        #253
        i dont know if you people just dont understand english or are so clouded by your own opinions that its warpinf your understanding of english..

        What i said was it was CONSISTANT ( go look it up before going any further ) with a controlled demoliton and NOT consistant with a collapse..

        your brain somehow warped that into " I CLAIMED IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO"

        and again with the pentagon .. because i ask to see the videos of the crash its suddenly warped into "missiles" hitting the pentagon ..

        no offense but first make sure your "enemy" is actually your "enemy" before you make stuff up out of thin air..
        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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        • Phoenix
          BACON BACON BACON
          • Nov 2002
          • 35475

          #254
          fuck all these people smokey

          may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

          im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

          there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma
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          • elitegirls
            Confirmed User
            • May 2005
            • 962

            #255
            we (rest of the world) don't hate you americans, just your government..

            but u've to wake up please and stop that terror regime in the whitehouse!

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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #256
              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
              nope your not even close to anything mentioned, infact i dont think anyone was idiotic enough to make some vague assumption ..

              So to answer simply. no

              Perhaps you should go look up the word conspiracy in your dictionary. Figure out what it means then come back and read the thread, then you will understand what this thread is about..

              Title of thread

              Lets Apply some logic to the Charlie Sheen 9/11 theory.

              Originally posted by Charlie Sheen
              "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."
              Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?

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              • SmokeyTheBear
                ►SouthOfHeaven
                • Jun 2004
                • 28609

                #257
                Originally posted by Phoenix
                fuck all these people smokey

                may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

                im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

                there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma
                ahh i always enjoy a good argument , sometimes i take their side i just find it funny when people on both sides lump people together.

                I ask to see a video , somehow turns into "missiles attacking the pentagon"

                I post a gif of a strange explosion and its " a crazy coffee machine" that bush was a part of.

                90% of the garbage is just that garbage re-iterated but easily disproven.. but theres 10% that are reasonable questions that americans want answered, so regardless of your opinion , your either democratic enough to realise we should grant that wish to the majority of americans seeing as how we are spending billions on the assumptions that everything that was in the official report is true , or you think we should ignore all the questions , go towards more of a dictatorship where bush makes all our decisions for us and ignores what the people want because he knows better.
                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                • stickyfingerz
                  Doin fine
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24984

                  #258
                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                  i dont know if you people just dont understand english or are so clouded by your own opinions that its warpinf your understanding of english..

                  What i said was it was CONSISTANT ( go look it up before going any further ) with a controlled demoliton and NOT consistant with a collapse..

                  your brain somehow warped that into " I CLAIMED IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO"

                  and again with the pentagon .. because i ask to see the videos of the crash its suddenly warped into "missiles" hitting the pentagon ..

                  no offense but first make sure your "enemy" is actually your "enemy" before you make stuff up out of thin air..
                  You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

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                  • SmokeyTheBear
                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 28609

                    #259
                    Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                    Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?
                    if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

                    so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..
                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                    • stickyfingerz
                      Doin fine
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 24984

                      #260
                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                      fuck all these people smokey

                      may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

                      im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

                      there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma
                      You're from Canada srsly fook off eh?

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                      • stickyfingerz
                        Doin fine
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 24984

                        #261
                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                        if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

                        so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..
                        Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                        You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

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                        • KRL
                          Entrepreneur
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 31429

                          #262
                          These threads are bizarre.

                          I've never seen a tall building fall over perfectly sideways.

                          The towers were architechurally designed to pancake collapse.

                          The only conspiracy is the fact that a bunch of ultra rich industrialists got together at a country club after 9/11 to figure out how they could make money from using the event for their own trillion dollar financial gain.
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                          • Phoenix
                            BACON BACON BACON
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 35475

                            #263
                            Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                            You're from Canada srsly fook off eh?

                            CDN banks just underwrote some of you major banking ops

                            basically we own your mortgages


                            fuck you all
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                            • stickyfingerz
                              Doin fine
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24984

                              #264
                              http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

                              ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.




                              Hmmm He must be a plant. Fuckin GWB and his witness's and Arabs taking credit....

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #265
                                Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...
                                lol now they are "supposed" explosions

                                Ok your right , magical explosion like puffs of explosive like cluds of explosive material blew out the "supposed" window..

                                I was trying to insinuate people look at the gif , nothing more. If i had a theory , even a vague theory on what that was i would have said what i thought it was..

                                I know exactly what you know about it because it s a fucking video.. you watch it stuff hapens your brain registers it , im not sure what exactly your trying to say.. all i was trying to "insinuate" was it was something odd that i would like to know how it happened. I live in a large building and would like to understand how a structure gives way like that in that fashion as engineers say it must have been explosion or structural weakness.

                                Most of the elevator shafts dont run top to bottom ( infact only 1 does ) the rest are sub elevators that travel section to section2 making up 4-5 sub shafts that end on certain floors. that could have been one ofg the bottom of one of the top shafts and thus the material being shoved down the shaft and exploding in the lobby on that floor.

                                But hey im not an engineer , thats why i dont think its so insane to want to know what happened more than the rushed private investigation we got.
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • SuckOnThis
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 6844

                                  #266
                                  Originally posted by kenny
                                  Hitting our own buildings with planes/missiles just isn't enough - we have to blow them up afterwards
                                  Makes perfect sense to me. What better way to destroy evidence than to have it burn for about an hour then have it crashing down 80 stories. Doesnt it occur to anyone why both planes hit the top part of both buildings yet the plane that hit the Pentagon was on ground level? Why wouldnt they try to hit the buildings lower? Seems the terrorists didnt plan on the buildings collapsing so doesnt it make sense that you would fuck up more people by hitting them lower? And if the buildings didnt collapse it wouldnt have been nearly as big of thing as it turned out to be.

                                  This administration had no problem whatsoever lying to invade a country, why wouldnt you put something like this past them?

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 28609

                                    #267
                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

                                    Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?
                                    --------------------------------------------------
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                    if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

                                    so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..

                                    -------------------------------------------------

                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                    You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...
                                    so in other words you cant quote me saying that so instead quote something you wrote lol great argument
                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609

                                      #268
                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

                                      ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.




                                      Hmmm He must be a plant. Fuckin GWB and his witness's and Arabs taking credit....

                                      and that has what exactly to do with 9/11 NOT being a conspiracy ?

                                      nothing..

                                      drivel on..
                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609

                                        #269
                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                        The towers were architechurally designed to pancake collapse.
                                        .
                                        they should have "architechurally" designed them to NOT collapse

                                        sorry i had to say it
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • SuckOnThis
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 6844

                                          #270
                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                          they should have "architechurally" designed them to NOT collapse

                                          sorry i had to say it

                                          Well someone said they were designed to take on a direct hit from a 737, but it wasnt the plane hitting them that made them collapsed, it was the fuel/fire, which would have also been the case if it was a 737.

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                                          • FetishTom
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 341

                                            #271
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            hey fruitcake , do you have eyeballs , have you seen any controlled demolitions ? did it look like them or not ? easy question easy answer..

                                            Do you also now understand the english language ? need to know what the word consistant means.. ? go look it up.. thats right take your head out of your ass and learn something ..

                                            So im waiting for you to respond with your "consistant" steel building collapse ?

                                            Oh wait you dont have any because it hasn't happened .. thus making it INCONSISTANT ..

                                            Again you seem to hallucinate i have "theories" , what "theories" are these ? care to share your hallucinations or just spout more drivel you cant backup because you cant grasp the english language.
                                            Oh well you want to talk about the building (man I swear its a phallic obsession) now lets see 'did it look like controlled demolitions'. Answer: Yes it did. Conclusion: Absolutely none. You are indulging in what is called 'observational science'. i.e. you draw your conclusions from what you observe. Its why mankind believed for thousands of years that the sun revolved around the world because they observed it to be so. Anyone who used math to point out it did not was harrangued as a lunatic talking gibberish and could they frankly get their heads out of their asses and just look at the sun going round the Earth - I mean for fucks sake! Any of this sound familar btw?

                                            In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.

                                            You couple these observations with your own inherent belief in Western superiority ie a bunch of Arabs could not have done this. They are camel fucking turban heads is what your deep rooted subconcious is telling you. Can't be. No way these backward fuckers could do this etc etc.

                                            The kicker is that the reason why you and others like you refuse to accept the obvious explanation is because you prefer to have it done by Western Govts/Shadowy Intelligence Agencies et al because that is more comforting then a bunch of Arabs doing it. It fits in with your westerncentric world view
                                            and ultimately is less frightening and more easier to rationalise.

                                            This thread is littered with examples of why Arabs could not have done this - including 'how could they find NY and the wtc?'. I mean seriously this is what you guys come up with and then rage at us for pointing out the flaws.

                                            It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic

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                                            • kenny
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 7245

                                              #272
                                              Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                              Makes perfect sense to me. What better way to destroy evidence than to have it burn for about an hour then have it crashing down 80 stories. Doesnt it occur to anyone why both planes hit the top part of both buildings yet the plane that hit the Pentagon was on ground level? Why wouldnt they try to hit the buildings lower? Seems the terrorists didnt plan on the buildings collapsing so doesnt it make sense that you would fuck up more people by hitting them lower? And if the buildings didnt collapse it wouldnt have been nearly as big of thing as it turned out to be.

                                              This administration had no problem whatsoever lying to invade a country, why wouldnt you put something like this past them?
                                              What evidence would need to be destroyed besides the bombs themselves?
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                                              • Hollywood Horwitz
                                                Porn To ROCK!
                                                • Dec 2003
                                                • 4357

                                                #273
                                                this is possibly the most informative and well thought post about this subject on GFY,props to all the peeps posting their opinions and theories.
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                                                • spanky part 2
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                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 1981

                                                  #274
                                                  Originally posted by Yucky Smurf
                                                  Another amusing thing. The fires were so hot, they warped beams. Oh yes, it was so hot that in video footage broadcasted all over the world, we see a woman ALIVE , looking rather calm UN BURNED, NOT SWEATING, waiting to be rescued.

                                                  All the garbage left over was shipped very very very quicky outside the country.
                                                  That's funny. When I was allowed to move back into my loft, 3 months later, they were still taking out warped beams that were steaming when they washed them off in front of my building. In case you didn't read it right the first time. They were STEAMING 3 months later.Yep that 10 story pile of rubble was just wisked away real fast.

                                                  What a fucking tool you are.

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                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 28609

                                                    #275
                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                    Oh well you want to talk about the building (man I swear its a phallic obsession)
                                                    huh ? this thread is about 9/11 and buildings hit by planes.. are you in the wrong thread or something or just a different planet ?

                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                    now lets see 'did it look like controlled demolitions'. Answer: Yes it did.
                                                    thank you thats exactly what i said

                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                    You are indulging in what is called 'observational science'. i.e. you draw your conclusions from what you observe.
                                                    actually i didnt draw any conclusions or else you would have quoted them , you did ,..
                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                    In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.
                                                    huh again your seem to hallucinate i made some claims about what happened. take your head out of your ass for a second and learn to read..
                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom

                                                    You couple these observations with your own inherent belief in Western superiority ie a bunch of Arabs could not have done this. They are camel fucking turban heads is what your deep rooted subconcious is telling you. Can't be. No way these backward fuckers could do this etc etc.
                                                    blah blah blah , again your assinine assumtions make you look completely inept and incapable of understand basic english. First you assume im "western" then you assume im a racist who would talk about arabs in a disparaging fashion , and to top it off you assume how i feel LOL thats alot of false assumption man , no offense but your making yourself look even stupider ( if thats possible )

                                                    Originally posted by FetishTom

                                                    This thread is littered with examples of why Arabs could not have done this - including 'how could they find NY and the wtc?'.
                                                    thus anyone with a question must think arabs didnt do it..

                                                    i'll add that one on your growing list of fetishtoms inability to comprehend basic english and assinine assumptions 101
                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • Splum
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 6195

                                                      #276
                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                      The only conspiracy is the fact that a bunch of ultra rich industrialists got together at a country club after 9/11 to figure out how they could make money from using the event for their own trillion dollar financial gain.
                                                      BINGO! We have a winner. Why doesnt anyone else listen to KRL?

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                                                      • FetishTom
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 341

                                                        #277
                                                        Originally posted by Splum
                                                        BINGO! We have a winner. Why doesnt anyone else listen to KRL?
                                                        Because he talks sense and that is no way as much fun, plus a lot of people are in denial and do not even read any thread that makes sense!

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                                                        • dynastoned
                                                          mmm yeah!
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 5061

                                                          #278
                                                          suddenly we have a bunch of aeronautical crash experts and structural engineers here on GFY. shit i thought i was the only one... lol

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                                                          • FetishTom
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 341

                                                            #279
                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            huh ? this thread is about 9/11 and buildings hit by planes.. are you in the wrong thread or something or just a different planet ?
                                                            Ah again we have trouble with the concept of humour or in this case whimsy.

                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            thank you thats exactly what i said
                                                            I know it is - as does anyone else reading the post but we appreciate the heads up

                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

                                                            actually i didnt draw any conclusions or else you would have quoted them , you did ,..
                                                            This bit I love! Good old Smokey still thinks he has 'not drawn any conclusions!'


                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            huh again your seem to hallucinate i made some claims about what happened. take your head out of your ass for a second and learn to read..
                                                            And again! Never once claimed anything about what happened. Not once. Never. Nada. Zip. Zilch. God bless this man and all that sail on the good ship Smokey Bear. Ist stop Never never land via the city of denial.

                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            blah blah blah , again your assinine assumtions make you look completely inept and incapable of understand basic english. First you assume im "western" then you assume im a racist who would talk about arabs in a disparaging fashion , and to top it off you assume how i feel LOL thats alot of false assumption man , no offense but your making yourself look even stupider ( if thats possible )
                                                            Correct. I assume you to be Western with a westerncentric world view. I still do. And technically its a lot of assumptions - whether they are false assumptions remains to be seen.

                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            thus anyone with a question must think arabs didnt do it..
                                                            That is a non sequitur.

                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            i'll add that one on your growing list of fetishtoms inability to comprehend basic english and assinine assumptions 101
                                                            You mean 'your' growing list so it should read 'my' as in 'yours' unless of course you meant 'my' growing list and therefore 'your' growing list was in fact grammatically correct but alas factually incorrect.

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                                                            • directfiesta
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 30220

                                                              #280
                                                              WTC Steel Removal
                                                              The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero


                                                              Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since no steel frame buildings had ever collapsed due to fires, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!

                                                              Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage. 1

                                                              Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:
                                                              If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything.

                                                              2

                                                              During the official investigation controlled by FEMA, One hundred fifty pieces of steel were saved for future study. One hundred fifty pieces out of hundreds of thousands of pieces! Moreover it is not clear who made the decision to save these particular pieces. It is clear that the volunteer investigators were doing their work at the Fishkills dump, not at Ground Zero, so whatever steel they had access to was first picked over by the people running the cleanup operation.

                                                              Highly Sensitive Garbage

                                                              Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage.
                                                              Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed.

                                                              3
                                                              Shielding Investigators From the Evidence

                                                              According to FEMA, more than 350,000 tons of steel were extracted from Ground Zero and barged or trucked to salvage yards where it was cut up for recycling. Four salvage yards were contracted to process the steel.

                                                              * Hugo Nue Schnitzer at Fresh Kills (FK) Landfill, Staten Island, NJ
                                                              * Hugo Nue Schnitzer's Claremont (CM) Terminal in Jersey City, NJ
                                                              * Metal Management in Newark (NW), NJ
                                                              * Blanford and Co. in Keasbey (KB), NJ

                                                              FEMA's BPAT, who wrote the WTC Building Performance Study, were not given access to Ground Zero. Apparently, they were not even allowed to collect steel samples from the salvage yards. According to Appendix D of the Study, "Collection and storage of steel members from the WTC site was not part of the BPS Team efforts sponsored by FEMA and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)."


                                                              http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html
                                                              Strange no ? When a fucking lplane crashes, they keep everything, haul it in a hanger and reconstitute the plane to study the possible cause of the crash...

                                                              9/11 didn't seem to important enough to keep intact for further study ....
                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                              • RF_Erick
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                • 946

                                                                #281
                                                                watch this 911 eye witness
                                                                He filmed it all from across the river
                                                                YOU CAN HEAR bombs going off
                                                                part I
                                                                http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                part II
                                                                http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                you can hear bombs going off before the towers come down.
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                                                                • Kevsh
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 8619

                                                                  #282
                                                                  Originally posted by RF_Erick
                                                                  watch this 911 eye witness
                                                                  He filmed it all from across the river
                                                                  YOU CAN HEAR bombs going off
                                                                  part I
                                                                  http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                  part II
                                                                  http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                  you can hear bombs going off before the towers come down.
                                                                  All this blah blah blah about explosions, it is amusing.

                                                                  If you are convinced there were bombs in the buildings, why are you all so obsessed with the idea that your own government was the one that planted them?

                                                                  Has anyone ever considered that maybe the terrorists did - you know how they like to make very big, public attacks and pre-planting the bombs would ensure the buildings came down. Hey, it's not like Al Qaeda hasn't used bombs before!

                                                                  And since most terrorists allegedly involved in this attack are either dead or hiding, it's not like they are going to be able to go on record and say "yeah, we planted the bombs" or deny it.

                                                                  If anything, if they saw delusional paranoia like the ones you so-called patriotic Americans are having, they'd be having a good laugh - "See how we are turning this country against itself!!!! These morons believe their own government attacked the WTC and not us!!!! Ha ha ha."

                                                                  Seriously, get a grip.
                                                                  Bombs in the building? Okay, I believe you. But who is more likely to have planted them knowing thousands of innocent people would die - your own government or a terrorist group that lives for killing innocent Americans? If you believe your own government DID this, then what are you still doing living there? Seriously.
                                                                  Last edited by Kevsh; 03-27-2006, 01:05 PM.

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                                                                  • Deraj
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                                                                    #283
                                                                    LOLOLOL!!! Way to Stir Shit up TiTan !
                                                                    ICQ: 193.211.414 -

                                                                    Originally posted by Unknown
                                                                    If I had a rooster and you had a donkey and your donkey ate my rooster. What would you have?

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                                                                    • FetishTom
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                                                                      #284
                                                                      Any one care to comment on the evidence given by Zacarias Moussaoui who is currently on trial? Hi-jacking planes, crashing them into the wtc - what the hell you can read it for yourselves. Seems to have missed the part out where it was planned by Bush; all down to Osama apparently...

                                                                      ...no wait, ever wondered why they never found Osama? In fact has anyone ever seen Bush and Osama in the same place at the same time? Is it possible that:

                                                                      G W Bush = Osama bin Laden

                                                                      The Bush and bin Laden family have been close for years - damn they are in this together! Its a fucking conspiracy I tell ya!

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                                                                      • Michaelious
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                                                                        #285
                                                                        i got tired of reading this after page 1

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                                                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                                                          #286
                                                                          Originally posted by RF_Erick
                                                                          watch this 911 eye witness
                                                                          He filmed it all from across the river
                                                                          YOU CAN HEAR bombs going off
                                                                          part I
                                                                          http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                          part II
                                                                          http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

                                                                          you can hear bombs going off before the towers come down.
                                                                          Omg Ive watched those vids before. The ones with the super secret copters flying around? lol That guy is a total fuckin nutjob tool. The big loud sounds? What do you think happens when whole floors are pancaking internally ontop of each other? hmmm...

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                                                                          • spanky part 2
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                                                                            #287
                                                                            That is the biggest pile shit I have ever seen.

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                                                                            • Deraj
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                                                                              #288
                                                                              Fuckin Nutjobs and their crazy ideas... LOL

                                                                              Take some more Paxil
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                                                                              Originally posted by Unknown
                                                                              If I had a rooster and you had a donkey and your donkey ate my rooster. What would you have?

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                                                                              • ThunderBalls
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                                                                                #289
                                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                                                                Omg Ive watched those vids before. The ones with the super secret copters flying around? lol That guy is a total fuckin nutjob tool. The big loud sounds? What do you think happens when whole floors are pancaking internally ontop of each other? hmmm...

                                                                                If you actually did watch them you would have heard multiple 'big loud sounds' 5 - 10 minutes before they collapsed. Sounds to me like you are the total fuckin nutjob.

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                                                                                • FetishTom
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                                                                                  #290
                                                                                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                                                                  If you actually did watch them you would have heard multiple 'big loud sounds' 5 - 10 minutes before they collapsed. Sounds to me like you are the total fuckin nutjob.
                                                                                  And that would not be say the floors collapsing internally prior to the outside structure collapsing?

                                                                                  Just a thought.

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                                                                                  • ThunderBalls
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
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                                                                                    #291
                                                                                    Originally posted by Deraj
                                                                                    Fuckin Nutjobs and their crazy ideas... LOL

                                                                                    Take some more Paxil

                                                                                    Yea you're right. Bush would never lie or blow up buildings.

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                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                      #292
                                                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                      Most of the elevator shafts dont run top to bottom ( infact only 1 does ) the rest are sub elevators that travel section to section2 making up 4-5 sub shafts that end on certain floors. that could have been one of the bottom of one of the top shafts and thus the material being shoved down the shaft and exploding in the lobby on that floor.

                                                                                      But hey im not an engineer , thats why i dont think its so insane to want to know what happened more than the rushed private investigation we got.
                                                                                      Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                                      In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.
                                                                                      learn to read seriously , STOP take your head out of your ass, open your eyeballs focus them on the words , then scan from left to right slowly collecting the information and store it in your brain , then process that information to decide what words to write/say , its not a hard concept, you seem to have a case of verbal diarrhea
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                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                        #293
                                                                                        You can boil this thread down to 3 sorts of people .

                                                                                        #1 people that actually read the thread and post arguments with merit.

                                                                                        #2 people that dont read the thread and just post their opinion

                                                                                        #3 idiots like fetishtom that apparently read the thread but cant comprehend basic english and make idiotic assumptions based on nothing but their mouth flapping

                                                                                        Not one person in this thread has even come close to answering even 1 of my questions , but instead hallucinated words ..

                                                                                        Its sad how some people's version of reality is so far off base that they have to make shit up in order to get their point across.

                                                                                        Whats sadder is when i post a video clip, that some people are so inept that they think a video = conspiracy theory.. then they go on to agree with my interpretation of the video in the same exact paragraph.. the height of stupidity..

                                                                                        I seriously think some people should be castrated so they dont breed anymore.
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                                                                                        • FetishTom
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                                                                                          #294
                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                          learn to read seriously , STOP take your head out of your ass, open your eyeballs focus them on the words , then scan from left to right slowly collecting the information and store it in your brain , then process that information to decide what words to write/say , its not a hard concept, you seem to have a case of verbal diarrhea
                                                                                          You're a whole post out - we've done this one. Now go away and start again. Oh and do try and keep up I am making enough allowances for you as it is.

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                                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                            • Jun 2004
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                                                                                            #295
                                                                                            Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                                            This bit I love! Good old Smokey still thinks he has 'not drawn any conclusions!'
                                                                                            .
                                                                                            This part is especially funny , instead of posting proof like hmm perhaps WHERE I DREW A CONCLUSION, he chooses to make some assinine statement further showing his stupidity..

                                                                                            Good ol fetish tom , he is like the mentally retarded cousin you never had..
                                                                                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                              • Jun 2004
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                                                                                              #296
                                                                                              Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                                              You're a whole post out - we've done this one. Now go away and start again. Oh and do try and keep up I am making enough allowances for you as it is.
                                                                                              your a full brain short of a brain... you still cant understand english so i feel sorry for you..

                                                                                              Now go away and come back when you have anything cogent to say , or anything with merit , or you grow up .
                                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                #297
                                                                                                but of course you dont just drivel to spew. you cant back up one statement you have made with proof nor can you disprove anything i have said with proof , so your basically just useless...

                                                                                                come back when you have some proof and a brain to put them to work...
                                                                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                                                                  #298
                                                                                                  so basically fetishtom is a windbag with nothing to contribute but the flapping sound his gums make . At least stickyfingerz tries to debate things, fetishtom just wallows in his own ignorance .
                                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                  • FetishTom
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                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                    so basically fetishtom is a windbag with nothing to contribute but the flapping sound his gums make . At least stickyfingerz tries to debate things, fetishtom just wallows in his own ignorance .
                                                                                                    My you do seem a little bit put out by my contributions.

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                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
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                                                                                                      #300
                                                                                                      Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                                                      My you do seem a little bit put out by my contributions.
                                                                                                      perhaps you cant read english... you haven't contributed anything yet.. your lucking a retarded puppy , funny to laugh at and play with , but in the end your still retarded so i feel sorry for you.. actually i feel more sorry for your parents , because they must have had some unique dna to make such an ignorant being.. i'm not put out at all , i enjoy a good argument , but your no challenge , you make it so easy.. I worked all day and you flapped your gums all day..
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