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Old 02-29-2008, 01:49 AM  
Snake Doctor
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I really don't think there's anything there in alot of this stuff you bring up. Like I said before it's penny ante stuff....it's alot of conjecture with no facts. Or it's facts, but they're presented in a specific way to make him look bad...when if they were looked at objectively they wouldn't raise any red flags.

I don't get this distinction between independents and moderates. Ideologically speaking they're the same thing....when I refer to independents, I refer to people who are registered to vote as independents. Those are the people who normally decide Presidential elections, and those are the voters Obama is winning in an overwhelming fashion. (If you're referring to democrats who consider themselves moderate....that's a totally different thing and doesn't really have any bearing on the electability argument)

About the poll that says Clinton supporters wouldn't vote for Obama....if it was done by someone reputable like Zogby or Gallup etc...then I would look at it...but if it's done by someone who works for the Clintons or was an online poll on a pro-Clinton blog then you can't expect me to take it seriously.
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