honestly.. what are you trying to say with your reply? that it's fake?
No, I'm saying could be a murder made to look like a hanging.
A minimum standard straight drop you need for a hanging is 4 feet to accelerate the mass of the body enough to sever the spinal column. The rope needs to be tied perfectly as well.
The way this guy did it, if he did it himself, wouldn't have caused instant death from that heightunless he was standing on the branch which would be difficult because the length of the rope would have prevented that going upward.
If you do the whole process completely incorrectly, it can take 10 to 40 minutes to actually die.
No, I'm saying could be a murder made to look like a hanging.
A minimum standard straight drop you need for a hanging is 4 feet to accelerate the mass of the body enough to sever the spinal column. The rope needs to be tied perfectly as well.
The way this guy did it, if he did it himself, wouldn't have caused instant death from that heightunless he was standing on the branch which would be difficult because the length of the rope would have prevented that going upward.
If you do the whole process completely incorrectly, it can take 10 to 40 minutes to actually die.
10-40min...damn that would suck. it also might explain why his foot was caught up in the shrubs...he may have been kicking and struggling.
Ray "The Don" Vega
Managing Director
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10-40min...damn that would suck. it also might explain why his foot was caught up in the shrubs...he may have been kicking and struggling.
if you look towards the end of the Sopranos new 1st episode , see the guy hanging himself, in that fashion, in his garage. I know its acting, but you will get the idea.
if you look towards the end of the Sopranos new 1st episode , see the guy hanging himself, in that fashion, in his garage. I know its acting, but you will get the idea.
I hear ya, not a nice sight...you know that everyone at the scene was talking about the fact that just last week the guy hung himself on the sopranos.
Speaking of the sopranos, last night's episode sucked! I hate dream sequences. enough already with the damn dream sequences.
Ray "The Don" Vega
Managing Director
Private Equity Fund [email protected]
Something doesn't seem right on that. That's not enough ground clearance first off to snap a neck. Second with the size and weight he appears to be I'd find it hard to believe he was able to climb that branch without falling or snapping it.
You don't have to actually snap your neck to die. You can die from lack of oxygen, lack of blood flow and other items. There are multiple types of "hangings". Most likely he was thrashing around which was why his leg was up on the branches until he passed out.
A hanging involves being suspended by the neck and can be classified as either "complete" or "incomplete." When the whole body is hung off the ground and does not touch the floor or platform at the end of the drop, the hanging is said to be complete. Incomplete hangings imply that some part of the body is touching the ground. Hangings also may be classified by intent (eg, homicidal, suicidal, autoerotic, accidental). Simple asphyxiation is not the cause of death in the majority of hanging injuries. In addition to the disruption of blood to the brain, associated cervical spinal disruption secondary to the forces involved in the hanging are almost uniformly fatal. Significant cervical spine and associated injury to the spinal cord occurs in hangings that involve a fall from a distance greater than the body height.
Yeah, I understand and apologize for being a little harsh. I just can't sympathise with people that take their own lives. It's the coward's way out.
No offense to you, Ray. I meant no disrespect towards the family.
Maybe he just lost his wife and kids in a car wreck and was lonely without them and wanted to be with them again in heaven? You don't know. Not everyone is depressed about money and such.
If you do the whole process completely incorrectly, it can take 10 to 40 minutes to actually die.
While that is possible, most of the time the person would pass out within a few minutes due to the noose cutting off blood flow to the brain through the carotid arteries in the neck resulting in clinical death (brain dead).
I think the thing that concerns me the most is the fact that something like this no longer even affects me. I think I have become numb to it. Don't get me wrong I think that it's sad (the suicide), but inside I feel nothing towards it.
Something doesn't seem right on that. That's not enough ground clearance first off to snap a neck. Second with the size and weight he appears to be I'd find it hard to believe he was able to climb that branch without falling or snapping it.
duh... people who hang themselves don't break their neck. this isn't a gallows execution, its a suicide. broken neck has nothing to do with it and wouldnt be the cause of death.
must take serious balls to pull off a suicide, actually makes me wonder what he had so bad.
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I agree. Where's the evidence for this? The follow-up?
I promise you that Ray has no reason to make that up .. We live about a block from each other and that did happen right by our house. Ray .. Believe it or not does volunteer work in the community and was there right after the call came in .. he took the pic on his cell phone .. in fact the first shot I saw was sent right from his phone.
As redundant as it may sound - those pics make me think of what a change technology has brought us as a society.
Years ago this suicide would've been seen by only a handful of people at most - the people who found him and those who's job it was to haul him down and cart away the carcass.
Local papers likely wouldn't have dared print such pictures for fear of upsetting the delicate sensibilities of their readers.
Now, with cellphone, digicams and the internet everywhere...the entire world gets to see the guy's last recorded moments on earth, captured for posterity.
NOTHING about this made the papers or the news, and it most certainly would have.........however, there is a local legend, the "Hanging Tree" of Patchogue. I think this smells of a hoax that is appealing to this legend. I don't buy it, and why would he post pics of it that he took of it on his cell phone on here if he were such a 'humanitarian.'
As redundant as it may sound - those pics make me think of what a change technology has brought us as a society.
Years ago this suicide would've been seen by only a handful of people at most - the people who found him and those who's job it was to haul him down and cart away the carcass.
Local papers likely wouldn't have dared print such pictures for fear of upsetting the delicate sensibilities of their readers.
Now, with cellphone, digicams and the internet everywhere...the entire world gets to see the guy's last recorded moments on earth, captured for posterity.
Yeah, it's crazy the media outlet new technology creates.
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