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  • jaYMan
    peace&profit,
    • Jan 2001
    • 4885

    #1

    AdultFriendFinder.... WTF.

    Who do I have to blow to get pictures of RavenRiley off of your profiles???

    I've sent emails out to everyone I thought I knew there that were all nice to me in person and gave me biz cards and promised me this type of thing would never happen on thier watch... and now how many minutes does it take a surfer to see one of our stolen images on your site???

    And what REALLY pisses me the fuck off, is that they are your goddamn AD TOOLS that you provide to OTHER webmasters.... so not only are you allowing unlicensed content in the FIRST place, but your providing the images to every fucking webmaster you have....

    I found one in less than a minute.

    http://www.filecabi.net/video/soldiertwistershake.html reload that page a few times

    also do a search on girls from costa rica...

    I'll end the rant now, but seriously, WHO do I contact and HOW to get stolen unlicensed material removed from YOUR server?
    peace&profit,
    jaYMan
  • jaYMan
    peace&profit,
    • Jan 2001
    • 4885

    #2




    ill pay for every screenshot anyone reading this can find of ravenriley or any other girls that AFF doesnt have licenses to use.
    peace&profit,
    jaYMan

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    • Nasty
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2002
      • 1575

      #3
      Pics not being pulled from aff, being pulled from http://www.filecabi.net/aff/

      aff ad is an iframe using java to match aff profiles with local images

      “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

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      • iwantchixx
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 12860

        #4
        almost all their GEOip ad materials are unlisceneced pics.

        Pretty mch 90% of the pics in their GEOip ads are stolen pics. There's no way it's the "users" uploading the pics either because the pics are all handpicked to be used on display. Sure some of the profile names and locations are real, but the pics that match them are not.

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        • Lace
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2004
          • 16116

          #5
          LOL...Fuck AFF....Period.
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          • andrej_NDC
            Registered User
            • May 2004
            • 7760

            #6
            see sig...

            nothing surprise me about AFF btw

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            • Love Sex
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2004
              • 1905

              #7
              she is also on many other dating sites

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              • Penthouse Tony
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2004
                • 5835

                #8
                Originally posted by Nasty
                Pics not being pulled from aff, being pulled from http://www.filecabi.net/aff/

                aff ad is an iframe using java to match aff profiles with local images
                That's right the pictures are not on our servers. http://www.filecabi.net/aff/49.jpg

                I will contact the affiliate and have him remove unlicensed images.
                aamos AT FFN dot com
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                • jaYMan
                  peace&profit,
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 4885

                  #9
                  Sagi, how do I prevent this in the future?

                  I mean its really gotten bad in the past week or so, I've got tons of msgs about this, and I obviously have the wrong contact info for ya, cuz I thuoght for sure you would have taken care of my initial request without me having to act like a lunatic on the boards.

                  I think shutting down thier account and forwarding me thier check would be the right thing to do in this case, not a warning saying dont do that.

                  They fucking KNOW not to do that.
                  peace&profit,
                  jaYMan

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                  • RawAlex
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 9465

                    #10
                    Sagi, I have to say that your answer is a bit soft. Think about it:

                    The affiliate has lied to the public, sold memberships with fraudulent information, mislead the public, and you will just asking him to "take down that picture"?

                    It seems to me that Jayman is right here... shut down the account, stop paying them, and perhaps even forward the money to Jayman for the misuse of the images. I honestly wonder what the public would think if they knew.

                    Alex

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                    • djroof
                      JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 25504

                      #11
                      many sponsors has the same problem, like Medium Pimpin with Crissy Moran pics!

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                      • chadglni
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 6924

                        #12
                        Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.


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                        • sonofsam
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 18648

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                          That's right the pictures are not on our servers. http://www.filecabi.net/aff/49.jpg

                          I will contact the affiliate and have him remove unlicensed images.
                          Why don't you cut the bullshit?

                          You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

                          you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

                          but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

                          i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

                          theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

                          kudos to you guys!
                          I like turtles.

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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chadglni
                            Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.
                            He should stick to the sponsors who are PAYING people who do it. Terminate their accounts first, so that they don't get paid.

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                            • Alphonso
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 544

                              #15
                              i dated raven riley
                              MEOWWWWW

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                              • jaYMan
                                peace&profit,
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 4885

                                #16
                                Originally posted by chadglni
                                Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.
                                i don't have to, raven's fans do it for us...

                                We work with myspace's attorneys everyday, at least they comply and respond to removing our trademarked property.

                                I didn't even get a responce outta AFF, and I also assumed they were hosting the ADTOOLS. I was wrong, they aren't the thieves, I know that now, but they are paying them... so I still have an issue. They are profiting from stolen content, just as bad.

                                Any fake myspace's I can have down within 24 hours and redirected to our real one. With AFF, I didn't seem to get anywhere at all, until I went nuts on the board.
                                peace&profit,
                                jaYMan

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                                • WiredGuy
                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 34515

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                  You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks
                                  As a webmaster though, I'd prefer using my own images (or selecting from a specific number of images to serve). It makes it easier to market to my audience. At the same time, its definitely easy to abuse but like Sagi said, he will contact the webmaster to take it down. There is no easy solution to fixing this problem and offering webmasters the ability to use their own images.
                                  WG
                                  I play with Google.

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                                  • sonofsam
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 18648

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                    As a webmaster though, I'd prefer using my own images (or selecting from a specific number of images to serve). It makes it easier to market to my audience. At the same time, its definitely easy to abuse but like Sagi said, he will contact the webmaster to take it down. There is no easy solution to fixing this problem and offering webmasters the ability to use their own images.
                                    WG
                                    Who cares how hard it is for AFF to fix?

                                    That's like saying, it's hard for GUBA to look through all their user submitted content to see if they have any stolen content... like the Paris hilton sex tape for example...

                                    if it's too hard, then remove that feature... it's not jaymans or any other content owners responsibility to have to look for their content on their system and spend time and resources having it removed.
                                    I like turtles.

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                                    • chadglni
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 6924

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sonofsam
                                      Why don't you cut the bullshit?

                                      You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

                                      you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

                                      but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

                                      i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

                                      theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

                                      kudos to you guys!
                                      He can't cut the bullshit or they'll have a huge backlash on GFY. Also, if everything was "taken care of" the way many here want the adult industry as we know it would pretty much collapse. Some things are better left "unknown".


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                                      • RawAlex
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 9465

                                        #20
                                        No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

                                        Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

                                        Alex

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                                        • chadglni
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 6924

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                          No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

                                          Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

                                          Alex
                                          You disregarded the "as we know it". And yes, with all of the shit people take serious offense to this industry would be making far less money / therefore less money to go around. Doesn't matter if it's different people or not, less money is less money.


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                                          • Brujah
                                            Beer Money Baron
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 22157

                                            #22
                                            chadglni, what exactly are you saying? because it sounds like you're saying you support content theft, or stealing as long as it'll make you a $1 at the end of the day.

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                                            • Love Sex
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 1905

                                              #23
                                              sonofsam some chick just sent me a julia blue pic off my space

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                                              • chadglni
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 6924

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                chadglni, what exactly are you saying? because it sounds like you're saying you support content theft, or stealing as long as it'll make you a $1 at the end of the day.
                                                Why does everyone twist shit here? Where exactly did I say I support anything, just curious?


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                                                • sonofsam
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 18648

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Love Sex
                                                  sonofsam some chick just sent me a julia blue pic off my space
                                                  so long as it's watermarked.. i don't care
                                                  I like turtles.

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                                                  • Penthouse Tony
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                    • 5835

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                    Why don't you cut the bullshit?

                                                    You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

                                                    you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

                                                    but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

                                                    i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

                                                    theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

                                                    kudos to you guys!

                                                    We don't we provide a system for affiliates to use our real members. If they choose to use model photos (from our system that we have rights to) it comes with a disclaimer. This affiliate is using javascript code to replace our images with his own selected ones.
                                                    aamos AT FFN dot com
                                                    Penthouse.com Business Development
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                                                    • KMR Stitch
                                                      I am cool
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 14494

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                      No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

                                                      Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

                                                      Alex
                                                      Do you know whats in your sig?

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                                                      • Penthouse Tony
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                        • 5835

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jaYMan
                                                        Sagi, how do I prevent this in the future?

                                                        I mean its really gotten bad in the past week or so, I've got tons of msgs about this, and I obviously have the wrong contact info for ya, cuz I thuoght for sure you would have taken care of my initial request without me having to act like a lunatic on the boards.

                                                        I think shutting down thier account and forwarding me thier check would be the right thing to do in this case, not a warning saying dont do that.

                                                        They fucking KNOW not to do that.
                                                        He won't do it again because his account will be gone if this repeats.
                                                        aamos AT FFN dot com
                                                        Penthouse.com Business Development
                                                        ICQ: 49090846 | Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

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                                                        • chadglni
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 6924

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                                                          Do you know whats in your sig?
                                                          lol shhhhhhhh


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                                                          • jaYMan
                                                            peace&profit,
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 4885

                                                            #30
                                                            So if *I* catch him again, and if *I* find him using *OUR* content, and then if *I* msg you, he won't have an account and youll be able to not have to pay him.

                                                            *shakes head*


                                                            I don't get it man, sorry. Will you disclose to me his identity so I can pass it to my attorney?
                                                            peace&profit,
                                                            jaYMan

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                                                            • Lace
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 16116

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                              This affiliate is using javascript code to replace our images with his own selected ones.
                                                              That YOU provide.
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                                                              • Penthouse Tony
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                • 5835

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Lace
                                                                That YOU provide.
                                                                absolutely untrue. we provide the javascript code for the geo targeting not the code that replaces the images.
                                                                aamos AT FFN dot com
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                                                                • chadglni
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 6924

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Lace
                                                                  That YOU provide.
                                                                  So guilty by association?


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                                                                  • Lace
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 16116

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah, whatever. I don't even care....

                                                                    and when do you plan on shutting down my acct? Ive only asked 10 times now....# - 461447
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                                                                    • RawAlex
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 9465

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Sagi, would not using the "replace image" script be a violation of your terms because it makes fake member profiles? False advertising and all... knowingly paying affiliates that are misleading the public seems like a pretty weird place for a business to hang it's hat.

                                                                      Alex

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                                                                      • Penthouse Tony
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 5835

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                        Sagi, would not using the "replace image" script be a violation of your terms because it makes fake member profiles? False advertising and all... knowingly paying affiliates that are misleading the public seems like a pretty weird place for a business to hang it's hat.

                                                                        Alex
                                                                        We've actually been dealing with this recently. I've been having affiliates place disclaimers when using images that are not our real members. I will also be including a note in our April newsletter to get the word out.
                                                                        aamos AT FFN dot com
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                                                                        • Penthouse Tony
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 5835

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I've spoken with JaYMan and the affiliate. I beleive they both spoke as well. The image is already pulled and he'll be switching to using just our ads that use a disclaimer and images we have rights to.

                                                                          hopefully this case is closed and I can go back to enjoying my Sunday afternoon
                                                                          aamos AT FFN dot com
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                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 28609

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                                            He won't do it again because his account will be gone if this repeats.
                                                                            see new thread , they just got busted for using lightspeed content , you need to can people like this before it sets an example for other file upload sites
                                                                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 28609

                                                                              #39
                                                                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=588492

                                                                              Well he had his warning , this should be his strike3
                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                              • Joesho
                                                                                want to get in shape
                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                • 12329

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                                                I've spoken with JaYMan and the affiliate. I beleive they both spoke as well. The image is already pulled and he'll be switching to using just our ads that use a disclaimer and images we have rights to.

                                                                                hopefully this case is closed and I can go back to enjoying my Sunday afternoon

                                                                                this case may be closed, but we send out at least three C and D a week, and DMCA notices for the same bullshit .

                                                                                and we always got the same answear when we asked too.

                                                                                is there not a way you guys can stop this ?
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                                                                                • lush_life
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 237

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  filecabi = owned... now they are not going to be able to afford thier bandwidth

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                                                                                  • Wiggles
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                    • 14423

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    its easy to use custom pics with a script, thats what alot of people are doing.
                                                                                    no sig

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                                                                                    • sfera
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                      • 8597

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      wow this is a big shit storm, I would be pissed off like jayman if someone else was profiting off my investment. I think AFF should monitor their own affiates and no leave it up to other ppl (like jayman) to find them and then bitch you out. my 2c

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                                                                                      • RawAlex
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 9465

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Wiggles
                                                                                        its easy to use custom pics with a script, thats what alot of people are doing.
                                                                                        Yup, and the problem is for AFF that this means that the advertising for thier site is, well, not entirely honest. That could cause issues that have nothing to do with chat boards of DMCA paper.

                                                                                        Sort of like all those "85% of members get laid" spams. It isn't honestly, it isn't true... misleading advertising.

                                                                                        Alex

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                                                                                        • Scootermuze
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 4513

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                          Yup, and the problem is for AFF that this means that the advertising for thier site is, well, not entirely honest. That could cause issues that have nothing to do with chat boards of DMCA paper.

                                                                                          Sort of like all those "85% of members get laid" spams. It isn't honestly, it isn't true... misleading advertising.

                                                                                          Alex
                                                                                          All of the geotarget ads are misleading when a photo is used... Never the photo of the person whose profile shows... And a few times there has been the same photo with different profiles on the multi-profile banners... kinda funny

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                                                                                          • sonofsam
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 18648

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Joesho
                                                                                            this case may be closed, but we send out at least three C and D a week, and DMCA notices for the same bullshit .

                                                                                            and we always got the same answear when we asked too.

                                                                                            is there not a way you guys can stop this ?
                                                                                            of course there is a way

                                                                                            it's just that they don't want to give up the extra money they make from people using stolen content to send traffic to AFF
                                                                                            I like turtles.

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                                                                                            • fr0gman
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 2093

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              They also show up on my DatingGold GEOIP ads. I noticed that today as well as MelissaMidwest.
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                                                                                              • DBS.US
                                                                                                Geo Cities
                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 11842

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                This sucks
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