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Will You Sign Up To Sponsor Companies That Raise Their Payouts To $100-200 Min?

03-18-2006, 05:15 PM

I think this is really going to steer affiliates away, I have noticed this at several paysite operations recently. I think alot of these guys are going to shoot themselves in the foot and certainly not endear themselves to affiliates that don't send alot of sales monthly.

Your thoughts?

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03-18-2006, 05:16 PM

I just think it is a sneaky tactic.

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03-18-2006, 05:17 PM

I will say this publically yo ...."No"
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03-18-2006, 05:17 PM

10 sales or 100 sales money is money
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03-18-2006, 05:18 PM

higher payouts attracts the whales,simply because most people dont have the consistant traffic to sustain the minimum payouts

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03-18-2006, 05:20 PM

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so you wouldnt sign up to Fleshlight?

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03-18-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

so you wouldnt sign up to Fleshlight?

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I would the $200 min isnt a issue for me as a aff but might be for alot of small timers.
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03-18-2006, 05:22 PM

sure, why not

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03-18-2006, 05:22 PM

What pisses me off is that I test out several sponsor companies and I usually send them 6,000 uniques minimum as a test to see how they convert. Now if I only make 2-3 ($30 per signup) sales from that then we're talking $60-90. Now if the minimum payout is $100 or $200 I will never see a dime of that money.

That really irks me.

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03-18-2006, 05:26 PM

I would but likely on a prepay basis or a very small amount of traffic to test them.
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03-18-2006, 05:26 PM

PS: Wanna let me know who's offering this much
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03-18-2006, 05:27 PM

for me its a moot point because i rarely sign up with a sponsor i dont make the min the first check . but some people spread their sponsor out alot more thus its concerning. I suppose it all depends on who it was and where i was using them..

I dont think it would "disuade" me from signing up for a sponsor , what DOES piss me off though is when sponsors take ages to send out the payment from the time the period ends..

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03-18-2006, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

PS: Wanna let me know who's offering this much
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03-18-2006, 05:29 PM

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What pisses me off is that I test out several sponsor companies and I usually send them 6,000 uniques minimum as a test to see how they convert. Now if I only make 2-3 ($30 per signup) sales from that then we're talking $60-90. Now if the minimum payout is $100 or $200 I will never see a dime of that money.

That really irks me.

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03-18-2006, 05:30 PM

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higher payouts attracts the whales,simply because most people dont have the consistant traffic to sustain the minimum payouts

How exactly does higher payout minimums attract whales? Do you think the whales seriously sit around and say "wow, XYZ Program has a minimum payout of $500, they must rock, I'm sending traffic now!"

It keeps out the smaller guys. Every program owner I've talked to agrees that having lots of smaller guys rocks, less risk. If a whale moves, a program can topple. If a smaller guy moves, a mere ripple in the sea.

I tried out a new program with a $100 minimum. I see after 3 months I finally hit the $70 mark yesterday. Woohoo! Can't wait for another 3 glorious months of 1:5k conversions to pass!

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03-18-2006, 05:32 PM

See I think one of the sponsor's arguments might be "well it takes alot of time and resources to send out cheques for $35 every 2 week. When we do $200 min payouts we might only have to pay out half as many cheques as often".

But my rebuttal to that is "we as affiliates take the trouble to add YOUR links to our sites and send you OUR traffic. The last you can do is take the time to send me out a cheque for money I made for YOU".

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03-18-2006, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by fris

ya but i guess if you have galleries in archives, like i know i saw your cohf galleries years ago on al4a, from dirtymofo, you will eventually make the money, i am sure you have made lots of bank on cohf no need to ask :p

Sure but that is from a sponsor that didn't have a $100-200 minimum payout. I think at the time they had only $50 minimum payout, and really that isn't the point.

If you bought 10,000 uniques of traffic and tried out say Sponsor XYZ. Lets say you sent them 2 sales and then didn't get paid out for it because of not hitting the minimum, would'nt you be pissed?

I would say it's almost borderline fraud because you're not paying out an affiliate for monies owed, but I guess the terms and service would protect them.

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03-18-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Sly

How exactly does higher payout minimums attract whales? Do you think the whales seriously sit around and say "wow, XYZ Program has a minimum payout of $500, they must rock, I'm sending traffic now!"

It keeps out the smaller guys. Every program owner I've talked to agrees that having lots of smaller guys rocks, less risk. If a whale moves, a program can topple. If a smaller guy moves, a mere ripple in the sea.

You hit the nail right on the head Sly

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03-18-2006, 05:46 PM

I dont mind a $100 minimum payout. $200 is pushing the limit though, because there is no reason sponsors need to set the minimum that high.

I think most sponsors set a $100 minimum to justify the $3 check processing fee.

I also like the $100 mimimum, because when you promote lots of sponsors it is more convenient to get a few checks for $100's of dollars each, rather than 2 dozen checks for $15 - $40 each.

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03-18-2006, 05:58 PM

I don't care about it but it isn't a smart move from the sponsor unless they have more affiliates than they can handle.
Fleshlight should invest in a decent affiliate system. The one they have now doesn't produce very good stats in comparisson to other sponsors.
I think fleshlight should focus more on automatisation of their whole affiliate system, even the payments.
If juicy comes here and screams sign up for fleshlights it's the little webmasters who will sign up most of the time but they will hesitate because of the 200$ rule.
A program like sapphiccash cancelled their minimum payout rule and a lot of webmasters were happy. Fleshlight should keep in mind that a lot of small checks make a big check and lots of sales at the end of the year. Fleshlight business could be booming but this could hurt their sponsor image and they should keep in mind who is making their business booming.
I don't mind the rule because I'm in Europe but if I were in the states I would prefer 100$ limit because 100$ is 100$ no need to wait for 200$
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03-18-2006, 06:03 PM

EDIT: Nevermind, I misread the title, lol. Smokey was right
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03-18-2006, 06:04 PM

Not a fucking chance

If one of my main affiliates decided to raise the min to 100-200 I wouldnt mind, I do that every day on them and have been promoting them for years but I would not sign up to a new program with a 100-200 min and I would dump any program that I did not have a history of doing 100-200 a pay period for a period of time.

with 300+ sites and several thousand seo pages, I have too many affiliates that I might never hit a 100 min with and I see no reason to gamble on them, especially with so many vanishing into thin air the past few years

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03-18-2006, 06:17 PM

Title of the thread is messed, thats why everyone is confused haha, half the people are talking about 100-200 per signup, the other half are thinking minimum payouts on affiliate programs.
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03-18-2006, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Pipecrew

Title of the thread is messed, thats why everyone is confused haha, half the people are talking about 100-200 per signup, the other half are thinking minimum payouts on affiliate programs.

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03-18-2006, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Sly

How exactly does higher payout minimums attract whales? Do you think the whales seriously sit around and say "wow, XYZ Program has a minimum payout of $500, they must rock, I'm sending traffic now!"

It keeps out the smaller guys. Every program owner I've talked to agrees that having lots of smaller guys rocks, less risk. If a whale moves, a program can topple. If a smaller guy moves, a mere ripple in the sea.

I tried out a new program with a $100 minimum. I see after 3 months I finally hit the $70 mark yesterday. Woohoo! Can't wait for another 3 glorious months of 1:5k conversions to pass!

I think less is best from people who can send consistant jons to programs. I have dropped plenty of programs simply becuase my conversaion ratios drop because everyone and their sister is promoting the site. I think underexposed and less promoted programs are what whales are attracted to

oh yeah,bottom line is profit

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03-18-2006, 06:33 PM

I think $100 mimium is fair for PPS programs that payout $35PPS. Its only 3-4 sales and your at the minimum. And the $100 minumum helps protect the programs from surfers and scammers getting 2 signups via themselfs and a friend and getting the payment. 3-4 sales is just a bit more work or harder for them to organize.

I agree $200 minimum is far too high and there is no need for a $200 minimum in my book.

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03-18-2006, 06:38 PM

It really depends. PPS program no not a chance. Revshare yep, i'll give them a try if i llike their site(sites)
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03-18-2006, 06:43 PM

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10 sales or 100 sales money is money

well said, money is money.

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03-18-2006, 06:43 PM

And so begins the thinning of the herd......makes perfect sense to me in this day and age of the adult biz. The times they are a changin'....

BTW, if I've had a poorly converting sponsor and I've not hit the minimum, I've always been able to contact them and still get a check for what I'm owed. That and/or they offer tips to get more sales
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03-18-2006, 06:45 PM

Yeah the title of this thread is messedup
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03-18-2006, 06:51 PM

I prefer low payout 50-100 so I can try the program and get paid by check the first period, before I change it myself to wire and higher minimum if the program works for me.
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03-18-2006, 06:56 PM

People need to read the thread!

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03-18-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by webgurl

Yeah the title of this thread is messedup
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03-18-2006, 06:58 PM

Depends on what the program had to offer, if I thought it would convert, and only if it was PPS. Often, when I sign up, I'll set my minimum payout to $100 right off the bat, simply because I hate cashing $50 - $60 checks.

I think the best solution is that if a program is going to set their minimum payout so high, they should have one or two dates per year where they payout all earnings, regardless of how little they might be.
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03-18-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Peaches

And so begins the thinning of the herd......makes perfect sense to me in this day and age of the adult biz. The times they are a changin'....

BTW, if I've had a poorly converting sponsor and I've not hit the minimum, I've always been able to contact them and still get a check for what I'm owed. That and/or they offer tips to get more sales

I sent some referals to a FRIENDS little program, but the minimum payout was $100. Well my referals stopped sending traffic when I was around $90 something, and when I asked for a check I kept being told 100 is the minimum

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03-18-2006, 07:13 PM

Someone should start up a program whereas they will send enough traffic to a program to meet the minimum payout for a small fee. Hehe!

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