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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #1

    FTV receive c&d from Mercedes

    Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, FTV received a C&D from Mercedes so they have to pull every image with the S..L#&&(*R in it (hey, wouldn't want the M/erce&des lawyers to find this thread )

    Where will it stop? C&D from Coke? C&D from your TV manufacturer? C&D from the company that made your kitchen sink?
  • ADL Colin
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    • Feb 2001
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    #2
    Originally posted by rowan
    Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, FTV received a C&D from Mercedes so they have to pull every image with the S..L#&&(*R in it (hey, wouldn't want the M/erce&des lawyers to find this thread )

    Where will it stop? C&D from Coke? C&D from your TV manufacturer? C&D from the company that made your kitchen sink?
    Nahhh. everything BUT the kitchen sink


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    • aico
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      • Mar 2004
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      #3
      heh, I made a thread too. Pretty much same questions.... ;)

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      • Deej
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        • Jun 2005
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        #4
        Originally posted by ADL Colin
        Nahhh. everything BUT the kitchen sink
        dont piss off kohler...

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        • $tandaman
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          • Jun 2001
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          #5
          that's fucked up :/
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          • Roald
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            #6
            heard stories before about BMW doing the same


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            • tigermtb
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              • Nov 2003
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              #7
              Seriously, what kind of "damage" can be done to Mercedes by having pornstars pose with their cars?

              "Damn, that chick is hot... and for some reason, now I want to buy a Mercedes." -- lol..

              I wonder how many pornstars and industry people own Mercedes compared to other brands.
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              • aico
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                • Mar 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by tigermtb
                Seriously, what kind of "damage" can be done to Mercedes by having pornstars pose with their cars?

                "Damn, that chick is hot... and for some reason, now I want to buy a Mercedes." -- lol..

                I wonder how many pornstars and industry people own Mercedes compared to other brands.
                People who own & buy stock in the company probably don't like the idea of it.

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                • rowan
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                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393

                  #9
                  I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.

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                  • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 7515

                    #10
                    pull the images or what?

                    they own the car, they can do whatever they want with it

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                    • shermo

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pornopete
                      Can they do that? They bought the car.
                      But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography.

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                      • Fap
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 12094

                        #12
                        Thats why you get the dolorean

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                        • tony299
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sherm
                          But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography.
                          Yep alot people dont realize that.

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                          • Max Cheese
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                            • May 2007
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pornopete
                            What I cant take pictures of my car?
                            if you are going to sell those pics, no...unless you get permission

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                            • pr0
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                              • May 2001
                              • 23088

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sherm
                              But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography.
                              what if the membership was sold under the premise of obtaining access to a blog inside the members area....& the photo's were "just there"
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                              • pr0
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                                • May 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Max Cheese
                                if you are going to sell those pics, no...unless you get permission
                                then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around
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                                • rowan
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                                  • Mar 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sherm
                                  But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography.
                                  If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

                                  Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it.

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                                  • tony299
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                    If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

                                    Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it.
                                    it is the case in the usa.

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                                    • GTS Mark
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                                      • Jan 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Man that sucks, they must have a ton of pics with their chicks beside their fine rides.

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                                      • »Rob Content«
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                                        #20
                                        This is quite common on the DVD video side of adult. People get c/d often. It's why when you watch a video you'll never see any type of logo in it.

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                                        • SimonScans
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by rowan
                                          If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

                                          Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it.
                                          And no shooting models with Playboy logo tattoos. Imagine finding out someone else owns the copyright to your ass?

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                                          • tony299
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 57021

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                            Man that sucks, they must have a ton of pics with their chicks beside their fine rides.
                                            there is no excuse making that much money not having lawyer on staff or pretty close to on staff.
                                            Last edited by tony286; 02-12-2008, 12:30 PM.

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                                            • Tom_PM
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                                              • Feb 2005
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                                              #23
                                              Yes. Associating sex and cars is lower than low. When I go to a car show, I've never seen sexy women there at all.

                                              "When you turn on your car, does it do the same for you?"

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                                              • Max Cheese
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                                                • May 2007
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

                                                Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it.
                                                every major studio I have worked for took extra special precautions to blank out any labels before the camera was ever turned on

                                                even when I was at a Hustler shoot and they wanted porn magazines on the coffee table, they made sure the names of the porn magazines could not be seen

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                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 30307

                                                  #25
                                                  If I recall right the only thing that would have to be removed is the Mercedes Logo, not the car, however even that may be in question really.

                                                  FTV could get an attorney and fight it.
                                                  Besides that would be excellent publicity.
                                                  Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-12-2008, 12:32 PM.

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                                                  • tony299
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                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 57021

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                    Yes. Associating sex and cars is lower than low. When I go to a car show, I've never seen sexy women there at all.

                                                    "When you turn on your car, does it do the same for you?"

                                                    Pure filth. Shame shame shame.

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                                                    but thats their right and if you want to use their product in a commercial venture you need their permission.

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                                                    • lagwagon
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                                                      • Jul 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      Yes we have removed all images from all our hosted promo. We are asking affiliates to please do the same. =/ Its a shame to have to pull the pics of hot girls with such beautiful cars.

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                                                      • kmanrox
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                                                        • Oct 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by banthis
                                                        Thats why you get the dolorean

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                                                        • TheSwed
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rowan
                                                          I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.
                                                          This one?

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                                                          • Max Cheese
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                                                            • May 2007
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                            If I recall right the only thing that would have to be removed is the Mercedes Logo, not the car, however even that may be in question really..
                                                            very true, just removing the logo and any "brand" mention would probably be fine

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                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                              • 39151

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                              I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.
                                                              I think of that image whenever I see a friends Rover

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                                                              • L-Pink
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                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 39151

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SimonScans
                                                                And no shooting models with Playboy logo tattoos. Imagine finding out someone else owns the copyright to your ass?
                                                                I shot a girl with a Playboy logo tattoo on her ass, she has since become a Hustler cover girl and is big on their web advertizing ...... lazered off I guess

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                                                                • Mutt
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  i have always thought this was the stupidest fucking law ever - you buy a product it's yours to do what you want with it - but that's not how it works - the clothes manufacturers could do the same thing.

                                                                  funny thing is that until the movie E.T. all motion pictures and tv shows would have to tape up the logo on any product or make some dumb fake like SuperCola rather than CocaCola - THEN came E.T. and the use of Reece's Pieces - sales of that candy exploded and now manufacturers of everything from candy to Mercedes PAY to get their products into a movie. Product placement.

                                                                  unfortunately porn still has a stigma.

                                                                  I would think that Rob's lawyer would have come up with the obscure the Mercedes logo fix if that would do the trick. Maybe because automobiles have body shapes that are instantly recognizable versus something like a soft drink can where if you cover up the Coke logo it could be any one of a hundred different brands.

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                                                                  • aico
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                                                                    • Mar 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pr0
                                                                    then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around
                                                                    Because Mercedes doesn't mind their car being associated with what rich people drive. Which is why most celebs get shit for free from the companies, so that they will be seen driving or wearing the products. Many Celebs are even paid to order certain brands of liquor in clubs just so people will over hear what they are ordering and order it also to be like them.
                                                                    Last edited by aico; 02-12-2008, 12:52 PM.

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                                                                    • Jimmy Rock
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Tell Mercedes to fuck themselves...if you don;t want your brand out there make your shit generic
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                                                                      • Evil E
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        There are lot's of other brands than Mercedes.


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                                                                        • cherrylula
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pr0
                                                                          then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around
                                                                          But who would they sue? Paris? Different scenario altogether.

                                                                          let's use our brains and not be silly..... FTV makes $$$... you think they'd sue some dumb amateur girl site with a pic of her cheap bmw that only has 25 members?

                                                                          It will be interesting to see how it plays out though... go FTV.

                                                                          ....and if the cars are in his COMPANY name.... ouch.

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                                                                          • aico
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                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                            • 14748

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Max Cheese
                                                                            every major studio I have worked for took extra special precautions to blank out any labels before the camera was ever turned on

                                                                            even when I was at a Hustler shoot and they wanted porn magazines on the coffee table, they made sure the names of the porn magazines could not be seen
                                                                            yep, I have been on shoots where we had to put black tape on neon beer signs to make it say something other than "Budweiser" for example.

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                                                                            • Twig
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                              i have always thought this was the stupidest fucking law ever - you buy a product it's yours to do what you want with it - but that's not how it works - the clothes manufacturers could do the same thing.

                                                                              funny thing is that until the movie E.T. all motion pictures and tv shows would have to tape up the logo on any product or make some dumb fake like SuperCola rather than CocaCola - THEN came E.T. and the use of Reece's Pieces - sales of that candy exploded and now manufacturers of everything from candy to Mercedes PAY to get their products into a movie. Product placement.

                                                                              unfortunately porn still has a stigma.

                                                                              I would think that Rob's lawyer would have come up with the obscure the Mercedes logo fix if that would do the trick. Maybe because automobiles have body shapes that are instantly recognizable versus something like a soft drink can where if you cover up the Coke logo it could be any one of a hundred different brands.

                                                                              sorry to hear about this Chris - it sucks.
                                                                              The usual Mercedes body style is also copyright. You see it mentioned in some of their commercials.

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                                                                              • Finike
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                It shows the arrogance of this company
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                                                                                • L-Pink
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                                                                                  • Mar 2005
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Mercedes will say the cars image was used to help sell the product.

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                                                                                  • Vegas Ken
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                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • L-Pink
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                                                                                      • Mar 2005
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Finike
                                                                                      It shows the arrogance of this company
                                                                                      Actually, if you don't vigorously protect your companies logo/copyright/trademark you can lose future rights to that copyright.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Welcome to the world of greeking.
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                                                                                        • rowan
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                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 17393

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Mercedes isn't the only car company to bully people trying to make a buck

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                                                                                          • Rochard
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                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 75733

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                            Mercedes will say the cars image was used to help sell the product.
                                                                                            Bull fucking shit. If anything, Mercedes should be paying them for free advertising!

                                                                                            No one is going to see a Mercedes and say "Hey, I should sign up to Lia19". But I'm willing to bet people are seeing Lia 19 on that car and saying "Wow, that's a good looking car".
                                                                                            Last edited by Rochard; 02-12-2008, 01:29 PM.
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                                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                              • 39151

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                              Bull fucking shit. If anything, Mercedes should be paying them for free advertising!
                                                                                              Calm down, everyone knows the cars were used to help sell the product. Were the girls posing with used Yogo's? Of course not. And nobody is going to buy a new Benz because a girls tits were on the hood.

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                                                                                              • Rochard
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                                                                                                • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                Calm down, everyone knows the cars were used to help sell the product. Were the girls posing with used Yogo's? Of course not. And nobody is going to buy a new Benz because a girls tits were on the hood.
                                                                                                Not bitching at you......

                                                                                                If this rule applies to FTV, then it should apply to every major movie studio also - meaning that Mercedes Benz can never have their car displayed in a movie.

                                                                                                Note that Ford has a habit of getting their cars all over movies. I noticed "I Am Legend" was all Ford products, as well the last James Bond movie. All car companies should embrace this, not fight it.
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                                                                                                • stevo
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Then how come Pepsi can have a commercial bashing Coca Cola (with a Coca Cola bottle in the scene)?

                                                                                                  Another example would be Miller vs Budweiser.

                                                                                                  How do these companies get away with showing other logos? I seriously doubt the competition would give permission for these companies to use their logos to bash their own products...

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                                                                                                  • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                                                    But who would they sue? Paris? Different scenario altogether.

                                                                                                    let's use our brains and not be silly..... FTV makes $$$... you think they'd sue some dumb amateur girl site with a pic of her cheap bmw that only has 25 members?

                                                                                                    It will be interesting to see how it plays out though... go FTV.

                                                                                                    ....and if the cars are in his COMPANY name.... ouch.
                                                                                                    paparazzi photography is different than commercial photography, thats why you dont need a release form for the britney pussy pics, they are considered editorial/news worthy...
                                                                                                    i dont think it matters if the cars are in his name or his company name.
                                                                                                    btw, i think Harley Davidson did something similar and to me that was quite shocking..
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