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  • Nydahl
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 6655
    #1

    Content providers - you are ALL pussies

    including me.Asking why?
    cause we sell our products underpriced.
    I think the most of us (me also) don't realize that WE are those who create the porn and face of the biz.All sponsors , webmasters and customers of ours are just selling those products.They have nothing to do with creating the face of the porn.Not talking about those who produce the content themselfs - they are not your customers.
    All those blow-outs and custom productions for peanuts are just ruining our biz.
    Not talking about stealing the stuff , breaking the license agreements and so and so


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    • Jakke PNG
      ex-TeenGodFather
      • Nov 2001
      • 20306
      #2
      Designers are underpricing themselves too. Sponsors are overpaying. Life sucks on the interwebs.
      ..and I'm off.

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        • MrIzzz
          If u touch it, I will cum
          • Sep 2003
          • 22923
          #3
          i blame it all on george bush


          WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

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            • Deputy Chief Command
              Deputy Chief Command
              • Nov 2005
              • 4482
              #4
              and what about the talent ? they could easily say the same thing

              and in the end the people that buy the content could also say the same thing , cause maybe you dont know it ,SELLING is an art on itself, if you dont know how the sell you wont make no money ,

              if you think you can make more selling directly to the consumer , go for it, otherwise STFU

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                • Nydahl
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                  • Sep 2002
                  • 6655
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command
                  and what about the talent ? they could easily say the same thing

                  and in the end the people that buy the content could also say the same thing , cause maybe you dont know it ,SELLING is an art on itself, if you dont know how the sell you wont make no money ,

                  if you think you can make more selling directly to the consumer , go for it, otherwise STFU
                  YOU STFU boy - thats not what I am talking about.
                  Selling is the ART for sure and I don't undertake the skills of selling anything.In the world of today there is no problem to find a source of any goods - the problem is to sell it.
                  But there is a difference cause content providers are making far lower money then sponsors and webmasters - thats what I am talking about.
                  The situation about designers is even worse then content providers - its also no good
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                    • BusterBunny
                      perverted justice decoy
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 19291
                      #6
                      Originally posted by MrIzzz
                      i blame it all on george bush
                      my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                        • Antonio
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 14136
                          #7
                          lets see, what'd people in this biz say:
                          talent - we're overworked and underpaid
                          affiliates - sponsors must pay us more
                          sponsors - we should pay them less, we give them everything they need, what are they bitching about
                          designers - we are selling ourselves short
                          and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo on


                          ever heard of demand and supply?

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                            • Nydahl
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6655
                              #8
                              Originally posted by BusterBunny

                              deep throat talent
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                                • Nydahl
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                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 6655
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Antonio
                                  lets see, what'd people in this biz say:
                                  talent - we're overworked and underpaid
                                  affiliates - sponsors must pay us more
                                  sponsors - we should pay them less, we give them everything they need, what are they bitching about
                                  designers - we are selling ourselves short
                                  and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo on


                                  ever heard of demand and supply?
                                  I agree and thats a good point.
                                  demand/supply rules and thats the market - I am just saying that content providers are not calculating the price strategy right.
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                                    • breaker
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                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 652
                                      #10
                                      It's a competetive market with supply and demand. Nothing is wrong with it really. Take one supplier or purchaser away and the price changes. Easy economics ;)
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                                        • alan-l
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                                          • May 2003
                                          • 2477
                                          #11
                                          take a look at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=9481865 maybe it will make your day brighter

                                          and btw, we need to make a huge buy from you, so wait until then to raise the prices

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                                            • Nydahl
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                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 6655
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by alan-l
                                              take a look at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=9481865 maybe it will make your day brighter

                                              and btw, we need to make a huge buy from you, so wait until then to raise the prices
                                              yes good post
                                              also don't worry we won't raise the prices - I am just bitching around but won't do anything of course
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                                                • PinkElectric
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                  • 1064
                                                  #13

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                                                    • After Shock Media
                                                      It's coming look busy
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 35299
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                      including me.Asking why?
                                                      cause we sell our products underpriced.
                                                      I think the most of us (me also) don't realize that WE are those who create the porn and face of the biz.All sponsors , webmasters and customers of ours are just selling those products.They have nothing to do with creating the face of the porn.Not talking about those who produce the content themselfs - they are not your customers.
                                                      All those blow-outs and custom productions for peanuts are just ruining our biz.
                                                      Not talking about stealing the stuff , breaking the license agreements and so and so


                                                      discusse
                                                      A fair markup is expected since I know that providers are running a business and not a charity. For those that can actually meet the specifications and provide the clients with exactly what they wanted in a timely fashion with minimal to no hassles, they should be compensated properly. For those types of providers I see no issue at all with them getting anywhere from a fity to one hundred percent markup over costs.
                                                      Where I run into problems is when some providers think nobody knows the approx costs of certain scenes and then really try to jack you over on the price. If I know a certain girl works for 200 per solo scene and the producer tries to charge me 600 for an unedited tape I can get a little perturbed.
                                                      I do think some providers have droped their prices to low though on certain things, yet that was the nature of the beast when more and more people began shooting. I just do not think many considered quality when they compared themselves to others. A quality producer should demand more.

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                                                        • u-Bob
                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                          • 33063
                                                          #15
                                                          i blame

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                                                            • Fizzgig
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 9649
                                                              #16
                                                              Competition will continue to make all aspects of this business tougher and tougher.
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                                                                • Nydahl
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 6655
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                  i blame
                                                                  isn't it illegal to post pics of former Hitlerjungen ?
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                                                                    • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 1699
                                                                      #18
                                                                      There is excess amounts of porn producers and content producers, as this happened compeitition increased and so came the need for blow out sales and do you know how man porn dvd's are made a year? something like 10,000each year. You can't hold your prices high when there is that many producing content.

                                                                      The market dictates prices, supply & demand nothing else.

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                                                                        • MaDalton
                                                                          I am Amazing Content!
                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 39861
                                                                          #19
                                                                          we don't do blowouts for example cause this devalues what other customers bought before. we try to sell at reasonable prices - due to the cost structure we have and what the market does pay. and of course it makes a difference, whether someone buys 1 or 100 sets.
                                                                          and i'd rather sell a set twice for $30 each than 12 times for $5

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                                                                            • Nydahl
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                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 6655
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                              we don't do blowouts for example cause this devalues what other customers bought before. we try to sell at reasonable prices - due to the cost structure we have and what the market does pay. and of course it makes a difference, whether someone buys 1 or 100 sets.
                                                                              and i'd rather sell a set twice for $30 each than 12 times for $5

                                                                              agreed 100% and you are defenitevly 1 of those keeping the flag up
                                                                              Also hard to find such a quality as www.amazingcontent.com so no need to discusse the pricing here
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                                                                                • seeric
                                                                                  ..........
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 41917
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  we dont apply. we shoot all ours exclusive and never sell it to people. what we do do is charge the consumer a fair price to view it.

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                                                                                    • Nydahl
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                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 6655
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                      we dont apply. we shoot all ours exclusive and never sell it to people. what we do do is charge the consumer a fair price to view it.
                                                                                      the best way how to do it
                                                                                      ok I am gonna sell ACC and start up few paysites soon
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                                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                          isn't it illegal to post pics of former Hitlerjungen ?
                                                                                          only if it involves some kind of farm animal...

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                                                                                            • MaDalton
                                                                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 39861
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                              agreed 100% and you are defenitevly 1 of those keeping the flag up
                                                                                              Also hard to find such a quality as www.amazingcontent.com so no need to discusse the pricing here
                                                                                              thanks, man - appreciate that. still a way to go to get to your level
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                                                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  content providers have no value . . . anybody can shoot content. simple . . go to walmart, buy a vid camera and get a crack head and a retard . . . . then SHAZAM! .. .. ""content!!!!!"" is created . . what's so hard about that?

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                                                                                                    • Nydahl
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 6655
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                      thanks, man - appreciate that. still a way to go to get to your level
                                                                                                      ok ok ok - just keep making a jokes on me
                                                                                                      I can accept that I am not even 50% as good as you but DID YOU KNOW THAT MY PENIS IS 35 CM LONG ? HE ?
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                                                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by bmb
                                                                                                          content providers have no value . . . anybody can shoot content. simple . . go to walmart, buy a vid camera and get a crack head and a retard . . . . then SHAZAM! .. .. ""content!!!!!"" is created . . what's so hard about that?
                                                                                                          Paul Markham's gonna kick your ass

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                                                                                                            • Nydahl
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                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                              • 6655
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by bmb
                                                                                                              content providers have no value . . . anybody can shoot content. simple . . go to walmart, buy a vid camera and get a crack head and a retard . . . . then SHAZAM! .. .. ""content!!!!!"" is created . . what's so hard about that?
                                                                                                              what he said
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                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                                                  what he said
                                                                                                                  ACC for sale - includes domain , shop system , company , all the content and my pants
                                                                                                                  charlie knows the sccore . . .

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                                                                                                                    • Nydahl
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                      • 6655
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                      Paul Markham's gonna kick your ass
                                                                                                                      why ?
                                                                                                                      he did it the same - went to walmart and start it up - all of us did
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                                                                                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                          • 46234
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                                                          why ?
                                                                                                                          he did it the same - went to walmart and start it up - all of us did

                                                                                                                          that what you did?

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                                                                                                                            • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
                                                                                                                              I guarantee it
                                                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                                                              • 18314
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                                                              i blame it all on george bush

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                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 39861
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                                                                  ok ok ok - just keep making a jokes on me
                                                                                                                                  I can accept that I am not even 50% as good as you but DID YOU KNOW THAT MY PENIS IS 35 CM LONG ? HE ?
                                                                                                                                  well, that's what i learned about Czech Republic - the girls are beautiful and sexy and the guys have big dicks.
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                                                                                                                                    • Nydahl
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                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bmb
                                                                                                                                      that what you did?
                                                                                                                                      as I said - all of us did
                                                                                                                                      or you think that poster above is not right ?
                                                                                                                                      its so easy to shoot porn right - just buy the camera and thats it - am I right ?
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                                                                                                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 46234
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by PinkElectric
                                                                                                                                          great sig!!!!

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                                                                                                                                            • fl_prn_str
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                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 5736
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                                                                              i blame it all on george bush

                                                                                                                                              next we will see the outsourcing of porn to india

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                                                                                                                                                • Expo_Vids
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 1162
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Yeah well things are changing in the custom content biz. Seems more and more program owners realize they need to pay a little extra money in order to get content that looks good instead of buying it from any jerkoff who has figured out how to turn on a camcorder.

                                                                                                                                                  How most of these programs can still get people to sign up and stay members is beyond me.

                                                                                                                                                  I predict that one of the main factors in who will survive will be the quality of the custom content a program invests in now. Can you imagine that in 5 years people will still be starting paysites using scenes ripped from DVDs and being passed off as a reality site? Besides, most of those DVDs that are available for licencing are shit anyways.

                                                                                                                                                  I find it funny that last year peolpe were telling me that "the custom content biz is dead" Yet I got into it and charge way more per scene than they do and TURN down work all the time. All these guys would have to do is take a basic video production course if they wanted to be able to raise their prices. Lots of this porn shot by "content producers" has the production quality of a 5 year-old's birthday party video.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 46234
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fl_prn_str
                                                                                                                                                      next we will see the outsourcing of porn to india

                                                                                                                                                      yeah or some backwards countries like eastern europe for gods sake

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                                                                                                                                                        • NoWhErE
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 10583
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I feel that the porn industry is slowly adopting the McDonalds formula for business.

                                                                                                                                                          Now that everyone and their mother have TGPs and run paysites, the competition has gotten fierce. No longer do people in the bizz want quality, but more quantity so as to be able to keep supplying the heavy demand from surfers, affiliates and to beat their competition.

                                                                                                                                                          As a high quality video editor, I some time cringe at how low I have to bring my prices just so that people can afford me. In return, I have to work doubly hard to be able to give myself the salary I want to earn. Sometimes I feel like its going to kill me, but, hey, like you guys said : supply and demand...
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                                                                                                                                                            • MichaelAncher
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 742
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Nydahl
                                                                                                                                                              including me.Asking why?
                                                                                                                                                              cause we sell our products underpriced.
                                                                                                                                                              I think the most of us (me also) don't realize that WE are those who create the porn and face of the biz.All sponsors , webmasters and customers of ours are just selling those products.They have nothing to do with creating the face of the porn.Not talking about those who produce the content themselfs - they are not your customers.
                                                                                                                                                              All those blow-outs and custom productions for peanuts are just ruining our biz.
                                                                                                                                                              Not talking about stealing the stuff , breaking the license agreements and so and so


                                                                                                                                                              discusse
                                                                                                                                                              I agree with everything you say, and we have the same problem in the magazine industry.
                                                                                                                                                              There will always be someone that try to make some quick cash by selling cheap...seen it before and will see it again...but in general then they don't last long.

                                                                                                                                                              I always said " If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys " and I will for sure not lower my prices.
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                                                                                                                                                                • NoWhErE
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 10583
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Expo_Vids
                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah well things are changing in the custom content biz. Seems more and more program owners realize they need to pay a little extra money in order to get content that looks good instead of buying it from any jerkoff who has figured out how to turn on a camcorder.

                                                                                                                                                                  How most of these programs can still get people to sign up and stay members is beyond me.

                                                                                                                                                                  I predict that one of the main factors in who will survive will be the quality of the custom content a program invests in now. Can you imagine that in 5 years people will still be starting paysites using scenes ripped from DVDs and being passed off as a reality site? Besides, most of those DVDs that are available for licencing are shit anyways.

                                                                                                                                                                  I find it funny that last year peolpe were telling me that "the custom content biz is dead" Yet I got into it and charge way more per scene than they do and TURN down work all the time. All these guys would have to do is take a basic video production course if they wanted to be able to raise their prices. Lots of this porn shot by "content producers" has the production quality of a 5 year-old's birthday party video.


                                                                                                                                                                  Amen.

                                                                                                                                                                  The problem is the panoply of hillbilly dooshbags who think they can pick up a camcorder and be content producers. Then, of course, they have no clue as to what the value of their content is and charge pennies for their stuff (of course their stuff IS worth pennies since its so awefully produced).

                                                                                                                                                                  But that cheap porn gets bought by cheap programs and boom, its flooded everywhere on the net. Eventually the content producers and the programs will go under because cheap porn is not a good business model... but with noobs spawning left right and center, we still keep getting a flux of unusable crap thats clouding the market, driving up inflation and driving down the salaries of people who are actually qualified to do the job.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NoWhErE
                                                                                                                                                                      Amen.

                                                                                                                                                                      The problem is the panoply of hillbilly dooshbags who think they can pick up a camcorder and be content producers. Then, of course, they have no clue as to what the value of their content is and charge pennies for their stuff (of course their stuff IS worth pennies since its so awefully produced).

                                                                                                                                                                      But that cheap porn gets bought by cheap programs and boom, its flooded everywhere on the net. Eventually the content producers and the programs will go under because cheap porn is not a good business model... but with noobs spawning left right and center, we still keep getting a flux of unusable crap thats clouding the market, driving up inflation and driving down the salaries of people who are actually qualified to do the job.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                                                                                                          A fair markup is expected since I know that providers are running a business and not a charity. For those that can actually meet the specifications and provide the clients with exactly what they wanted in a timely fashion with minimal to no hassles, they should be compensated properly. For those types of providers I see no issue at all with them getting anywhere from a fity to one hundred percent markup over costs.
                                                                                                                                                                          Where I run into problems is when some providers think nobody knows the approx costs of certain scenes and then really try to jack you over on the price. If I know a certain girl works for 200 per solo scene and the producer tries to charge me 600 for an unedited tape I can get a little perturbed.
                                                                                                                                                                          I do think some providers have droped their prices to low though on certain things, yet that was the nature of the beast when more and more people began shooting. I just do not think many considered quality when they compared themselves to others. A quality producer should demand more.

                                                                                                                                                                          not sure where you live an work but I'll tell ya this: no girl in LA is going to come by for $200

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                                                                                                                                                                            • GlydeGirl
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              It's really tough trying to sell high quality content at a fair price in 2006 -- everyone is squeezed for cash and wants to pay as little as possible, so if you wanna do biz you gotta drop the prices. It sucks, but that's the industry these days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • alan-l
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NoWhErE
                                                                                                                                                                                  Eventually the content producers and the programs will go under because cheap porn is not a good business model...
                                                                                                                                                                                  O RLY? You'd be quite surprised, most of today's programs where built that way and new ones show up everyday. Most of them will fail, but one or two here and there will succeed and then get better, as in design, content, interaction, whatever.

                                                                                                                                                                                  On the other hand, I can name you quite a bunch of programs built with some decent budget that failed miserably... and that's counting 2005 only!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                  Nothing is black and white, we've built sites with 6k filled with exclusive content and them some non-ex, I consider that cheap for exclusive, also built sites with budgets below 5k filled with LOADS of non-ex content. Question is: who will you sell this to? How will you market it? How will this site work? Which features will it include? That's the real magic, everybody and his neighbour could buy 200,000 pics and a few thousand vids and make a couple of sites... but do it the wrong way, and you just wasted your money. This applies for "decent budget" programs that failed as well as cheap bastards

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