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  • Helix
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    • Feb 2002
    • 6021

    #51
    So far, the project has run about 200 simulations of an avian flu epidemic, models that have helped Longini's group reach provocative conclusions that fall along two lines: how a nationwide outbreak might take hold, and what policies would best combat it.

    EpiCast reveals that, in contrast with flu epidemics of decades past, an outbreak today won't progress "like a wave across the country," spreading from town to town and state to state. Instead, no matter where it erupts - Seattle, Chicago, Miami - it will swiftly blanket the nation. "It starts in Chicago one day," Germann says, "and a couple of weeks later it's everywhere at once." Thank the airlines. Even though disease has piggybacked on air travel for decades, we generally had only isolated outbreaks of low-transmission viruses - like when SARS leapt from Hong Kong to Canada in 2003 but failed to spread beyond Toronto. In an epidemic of a highly communicable disease, the airlines' hub network would effectively seed every metropolitan area in the country within a month or two - and then reseed them, repeatedly.

    EpiCast showed that local intervention measures can have some impact: Close the schools, enforce a quarantine, and the disease will slow down. That buys the federal government time to develop and mass-produce a vaccine. But Germann quickly adds a caveat: Acting locally may not be enough. In a worst-case outbreak, without a viable vaccine, "the disease will climb, and eventually go exponential. And once it's on the exponential curve, it's very difficult to contain.

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    • CyberHustler
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      • Feb 2006
      • 28775

      #52
      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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      • Holly
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        • Jun 2003
        • 10017

        #53
        Originally posted by KRL
        Its hard to believe people are laughing about such a serious threat.

        You won't be laughing when it comes here. You saw how FEMA handled one hurricane. Wait till you see what they got planned for this scene and they try to quarantine entire metro areas.
        You're right. I'm selling my house, going to the Antarctic, and buying an igloo.



        Wait... do penguins get bird flu?
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        • CaptainHowdy
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          • Dec 2004
          • 94098

          #54
          [IMG][/IMG]
          Originally posted by Helix
          Computer model of a pandemic

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          • Greg B
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2001
            • 7014

            #55
            Originally posted by KRL
            Exactly. I'm more worried about the over reaction and the government plans that will really make this place look like a police state.

            Also, on the killer bees, they are migrating North at a rate of 2 Miles per day. So far on this continent about 1,000 killer bee attacks have been reported on humans and over 100,000 animals attacked and killed.
            The Killer Bees won't move too far north. 2 miles a day is too fast I would say. At that rate they'd be in Montana in a year and a half. I'd say more like 10 miles a year.

            They can't tolerate cold nor the bee mite infections.

            They're vicious no doubt but not as bad as predicted. No where near as bad.

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            • sumphatpimp
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              • Aug 2002
              • 5235

              #56
              what the hell ever happened to 2257, Acacia and all the rest of the horseshiters?
              we don't want to leave anyone out here.
              you'll hurt there feelings.

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              • Nathan
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                • Jul 2003
                • 3108

                #57
                You guys are more paranoid than europeans, I did not think this would be possible.

                1) The bird flu is not transmittable to humans without extreme direct contact with infected birds.
                2) For it to become an HUMAN epidemic it needs to first mutate to even be transmittable between humans.
                3) There is NO SINGLE COUNT of human to human transmittion even in asia where many humans got infected
                4) For it to be actually likely that it mutates it needs a host that already has a human transmittable flu.
                5) Even if that is given does not mean that it happends.
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                • sweetpiece
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 108

                  #58
                  Sweet piece of Ash

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                  • matty
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 1328

                    #59
                    were all dead, im getting one of those masks
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                    • mattyboy
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #60
                      For those in the UK, you might want to watch Channel 4 now.
                      http://www.channel4.com/science/micr.../bird_flu.html

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                      • CDSmith
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                        • May 2001
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                        #61
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                        • The Truth Hurts
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                          • Nov 2002
                          • 15762

                          #62
                          wait a tick.... wasn't this just another 'scare tactic' by the fascist regime occupying the government?

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                          • WiredGuy
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 34515

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                            where can i buy tamiflu?
                            Its tougher than you may think, governments are stock piling it. Even doctors can't prescribe it as the demand is nuts.
                            WG
                            I play with Google.

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                            • Jarmusch
                               
                              • May 2003
                              • 12479

                              #64

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                              • ColBigBalls
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                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1733

                                #65
                                we had the bird flu last year here in canada.. same thing too. Big Hype.. not alot happened. A few people died but probably wold have had they gotten a normal flu anyway. Heck they even put out travel advisory's not to go to toronto.

                                But back then we called it s.a.r.s.

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                                • DatingGold
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                                  #66
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                                  • Luc
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                                    • Nov 2002
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                                    #67
                                    i sale short bird flu vaccine. $5 for 1 tablet. $10 for 2. i throw in free vitamins.
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                                    • ArkansasDave
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                                      #68
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                                      • BoyAlley
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 19714

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Jarmusch

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                                        • Greg B
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 7014

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                          Re-reading Steven King's "The Stand" now....
                                          Now THAT's scary

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                                          • Greg B
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 7014

                                            #71
                                            Oh this is fucked up! ABC evening news states that the 2nd variant of the bird flu virus is faster and more lethal. Because of this second mutation the first vaccine is now useless. The first wave will hit Alaska in as little as three weeks and then be fully in the lower 48 states by August. Just in time to fuck up all the birds that will then begin to start flying south for the winter and possibly infecting all the birds in Central and S. America.

                                            Is that fucked up or what???

                                            Because Alaska is so remote it would take experts about a month to know if it has arrived.

                                            This year is gonna be a doozy.

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                                            • minusonebit
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 7391

                                              #72
                                              Ah well, the good thing is that if it does finally hit, it will reduce the world population to sustainable levels -- something even abortion hasnt managed to do yet. Bush and his buddies are out to make a buck, its nothing new for them by any strech. It very well could be that Bird Flu is just a bunch of bird shit.

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                                              • Greg B
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 7014

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                Ah well, the good thing is that if it does finally hit, it will reduce the world population to sustainable levels -- something even abortion hasnt managed to do yet. Bush and his buddies are out to make a buck, its nothing new for them by any strech. It very well could be that Bird Flu is just a bunch of bird shit.
                                                If it was bird shit it wouldn't have mutated already. That's the definite warning sign. Not a total final sign but a warning sign.

                                                Most of the time, viri reach a crescendo and just go less vital. Once in a while one doesn't. The indicators are the intensity of the first 2 or 3 waves. Other factors build on that by giving the viri an environment to thrive in for good or bad.

                                                Bird shit? Not by a long shot. Something to keep an eye on as ABC News is running a round the clock vigil and running nightly reports. Obviously they know something we don't?

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                                                • JD
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 22651

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Greg B
                                                  If it was bird shit it wouldn't have mutated already. That's the definite warning sign. Not a total final sign but a warning sign.

                                                  Most of the time, viri reach a crescendo and just go less vital. Once in a while one doesn't. The indicators are the intensity of the first 2 or 3 waves. Other factors build on that by giving the viri an environment to thrive in for good or bad.

                                                  Bird shit? Not by a long shot. Something to keep an eye on as ABC News is running a round the clock vigil and running nightly reports. Obviously they know something we don't?
                                                  they're just hyping it because it gets people to view their shitty newscasts and their advertisers love it

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                                                  • Bob_cougar
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                    • 1935

                                                    #75
                                                    i hope it's not yet too late before experts discover the cure to this killer disease.

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                                                    • Greg B
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 7014

                                                      #76
                                                      Sheesh! The scientist who discovered the bird flu was on ABC News tonight. Fuckin' scary what he said. to put it lightly he's got 3 months of food and water stored.

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                                                      • Scootermuze
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                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 4513

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Greg B
                                                        ..............

                                                        The rich won't care because that means more room for them.
                                                        If it hits, it'll be no respecter of wealth...

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                                                        • fr0gman
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                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 2093

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                          I respectfully disagree.

                                                          If you look back in history, you will see we are long overdue for an epidemic. It is a natural way of life.

                                                          And you need to look at what this flu does to healthy lungs, then you understand why it is so dangerous. The issue is that the virus, like others in the past, is manifesting and becoming more agile; more intelligent.

                                                          I have said from day 1 this is our most dangerous enemy in our current climate. Al Quada can not do in 20 years what this can do in a matter of weeks.
                                                          Very well stated. I'll just delete my post now since it was pretty much word-4-word.

                                                          Our world is due for another population thinning. And like all death we can stave it off for a while but it will happen sooner or later. We are to the Earth nothing but parasites and like any living organism it can only tolerate so much then it is time for a clensing.

                                                          I am not sure why the one guy said he was gong to buy a gun. Diseases kill people with guns also.
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                                                          • potter
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                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 6559

                                                            #79
                                                            I really don't understand how I see the biggest birdflu fanatics on a webmaster board. If bird flu strikes, just stay in your house sitting in front of the computer posting bullshit on gfy. Just like you do every other day of the week.

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                                                            • OzMan
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                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 9162

                                                              #80
                                                              This bird flu forum has some great info, especially on what supplies to stockpile.

                                                              http://www.superflutalk.com/

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                                                              • clickhappy
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                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 4027

                                                                #81
                                                                holy shit! I had no idea how far it was spread already
                                                                http://www.pandemicflu.gov/images/popmap.jpg

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                                                                • r-c-e
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                                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  http://www.deadlypandemic.com

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                                                                  • KRL
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                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 31429

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                    holy shit! I had no idea how far it was spread already
                                                                    http://www.pandemicflu.gov/images/popmap.jpg
                                                                    Estimates it'll be in the US in about 6 months.

                                                                    Just hope the fucker doesn't mutate, or start doing shit like killing cats and dogs, cattle, cows, pigs, too.
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                                                                    • rodney25
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                                                                      • Jun 2005
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      This bird flu issue is making me paranoid.


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                                                                      • Centurion
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                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 6033

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                        Hello. They're already here.





                                                                        And I do believe that everyone is now dead from stings in those shaded counties..so please, get ready to die immediately from the bird flu that should show up in it's first cases toward the end of April in Alaska.

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                                                                        • Centurion
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 6033

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Holly
                                                                          I think SARS killed them all before they made it here.

                                                                          LOL!!

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                                                                          • Centurion
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                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                            • 6033

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                            Its hard to believe people are laughing about such a serious threat.

                                                                            You won't be laughing when it comes here. You saw how FEMA handled one hurricane. Wait till you see what they got planned for this scene and they try to quarantine entire metro areas.


                                                                            I'm not laughing..I'm taking the administration's advice and have plenty of duck tape (hope IT'S not infected) and lots of plastic to insulate my home from the flu.

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                                                                            • Centurion
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                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 6033

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Greg B
                                                                              Because Alaska is so remote it would take experts about a month to know if it has arrived.

                                                                              If that's the case, then the simple solution is just build a big dome over Alaska so the birds can't get out. That way they can play baseball in the winter too!

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                                                                              • poondaddy
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                                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                                • 211

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Bird Flu can actually make you a quick buck...anyone know some good hypodermic needle manufacturers to invest in?

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                                                                                • VIPimp
                                                                                  Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 9234

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by poondaddy
                                                                                  Bird Flu can actually make you a quick buck...anyone know some good hypodermic needle manufacturers to invest in?
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                                                                                  • xclusive
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                                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                                    • 35218

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    On the bright side those who survive will be indoors buying porn

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                                                                                    • Teodora
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                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                      • 471

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      still i can see a lot of old bitch feeding wild pigeons out in the parks... they are too stupid to understand the dangers of bird flu

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                                                                                      • reed_4
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                                                                                        • Jul 2005
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                        This bird flu forum has some great info, especially on what supplies to stockpile.

                                                                                        http://www.superflutalk.com/
                                                                                        that is a very informative site you posted.

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                                                                                        • Greg B
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 7014

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Tonight's ABC News had the guy who discovered bird flu on.

                                                                                          To put it bluntly he said two things worth alarm:

                                                                                          1) Worse case scenario is 50% of humanity dying from this shit

                                                                                          2) He and his family have 3 months worth of food and water stored up.

                                                                                          The second one emphasizes what a top scientist like him feels about the situation.

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                                                                                          • chadglni
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 6924

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                            1. it mutates
                                                                                            2. for now
                                                                                            3. it'll most likely be airbourne once it begins to hit humans
                                                                                            How can you even go outside with all the killer bees infected with SARS flying around?


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                                                                                            • chadglni
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                                              This is the exact reason I have bought EMFp stock.

                                                                                              They make a mask that protects humans from bird flu and otehr airbourne diseases.
                                                                                              Well you were smart enough to buy the stock and not the mask because the mask does shit. Doesn't mean a billion morons (including many from this board) won't own one.


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                                                                                              • chadglni
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                                                                                                • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Greg B
                                                                                                Sheesh! The scientist who discovered the bird flu was on ABC News tonight. Fuckin' scary what he said. to put it lightly he's got 3 months of food and water stored.
                                                                                                Are you always such a gullible moron?


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                                                                                                • chadglni
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 6924

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Greg B
                                                                                                  Tonight's ABC News had the guy who discovered bird flu on.

                                                                                                  To put it bluntly he said two things worth alarm:

                                                                                                  1) Worse case scenario is 50% of humanity dying from this shit

                                                                                                  2) He and his family have 3 months worth of food and water stored up.

                                                                                                  The second one emphasizes what a top scientist like him feels about the situation.
                                                                                                  3 months of food, whatever will they do after 3 months? I probably have 3 months of food in my house "just because". Stop buying in to every fucking thing that is slammed down your throat by people with something to gain by spreading the information.

                                                                                                  I am so sick of this fucking epidemic bullshit that I wish it would come and wipe you cocksmokers out that think staying indoors with powdered milk and Tamiflu would make a fucking difference.


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                                                                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                    • 46234

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                                    looks like it's time to buy that rifle i was planning on picking up.

                                                                                                    if yer reallly, really lucky that guy that said we were assholes for buying guns will be stocking up on stuff and live right next door to ya

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                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                      • 46234

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      [3 months of food, whatever will they do after 3 months? I probably have 3 months of food in my house "just because".

                                                                                                      **** after 3 months only the fleash eating zombies will be left anyway so it won't matter


                                                                                                      I am so sick of this fucking epidemic bullshit that I wish it would come and wipe you cocksmokers out that think staying indoors with powdered milk and Tamiflu would make a fucking difference.

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