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  • ronaldo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 5475

    #51
    Originally posted by L-Pink
    Huh? I thought it was a dumb move to turn what was a serious discussion about money owed into a youtube comedy attempt. Nothing like saying you really don't give a fuck after all.


    goodnight
    Okay, that's fair. I thought you were thinking he posted a REAL threatening video. My bad.

    DAMN funny video though.

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    • Bods4Mods
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2005
      • 904

      #52
      Originally posted by ronaldo


      Did you guys WATCH the video? Clearly, very threatening.
      Do not care if was serious or in jest. I do not take threatening my family lightly.

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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #53
        god damn, that is a SWEET background

        can you do a blog theme with that in it?

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #54
          Well, while I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.

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          • Socks
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 8475

            #55
            You guys are on some highschool shit, don't be surprised when your worlds come crashing down on you

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            • Violetta
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              • Jul 2004
              • 28735

              #56
              wow... ibthemoddog seems like a REALLY good and NICE partner! What a great guy!






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              And I know Brian personally. He must be the nicest guy to do biz with ever!
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              • L-Pink
                working on my tan
                • Mar 2005
                • 39151

                #57
                Originally posted by ronaldo
                Okay, that's fair. I thought you were thinking he posted a REAL threatening video. My bad.

                DAMN funny video though.
                Coming right after his post I agree with the perception ..... (and the drama never ends)

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                • potter
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 6559

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Jace
                  god damn, that is a SWEET background

                  can you do a blog theme with that in it?
                  I love to design blogs. I could hook you up with whatever you needed (not using that one though, I could design a new original version).

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                  • potter
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 6559

                    #59
                    Oh, and to any CFUS peeps. Jon deleting this same thread on there, and banned me. Which is why it was brought here. It totally sucks, because cfus rocks. :/

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                    • Bods4Mods
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 904

                      #60
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      Well, while I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.

                      Thanks man

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                      • potter
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 6559

                        #61
                        Originally posted by baddog
                        Well, while I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.
                        I don't think you even realize it. But we've met, shook hands, and talked biz before. I just don't have that big of an impression because I'm mainly just a designer and not a "big baller tgp owner" in the industry.

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #62
                          Originally posted by potter
                          I love to design blogs. I could hook you up with whatever you needed (not using that one though, I could design a new original version).
                          hit me up jace at justjace dot com and let me see some examples man

                          you aren't like some idiots out there and grab free themes and just modify the graphics and charges $400, right? LOL

                          I had a guy hit me up and while the graphics were pretty damn good, the fucking theme was a DIRECT copy/paste from themes.wordpress.net, I even viewed source and the name of the original theme was in there....I don't mind if you do that, but don't quote me $400 for a fucking theme you just changed graphics on! haha

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                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                            best designer on GFY
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30307

                            #63
                            10% of the new site? after being duped into developing an entire program with sites and not getting paid?

                            You better pick up some business skills and learn to hustle in the adult biz.
                            You got the fuck pimped out of ya.

                            I hope you recover, just do not be gullible in the future and remember Money talks bullshit walks and maybe just maybe you can call someone a friend after knowing them for more than a couple years but ya goto keep biz and friend separated at all times with money being counted where its due.
                            Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-04-2008, 10:38 PM.

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                            • Bods4Mods
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                              • Nov 2005
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by potter
                              Oh, and to any CFUS peeps. Jon deleting this same thread on there, and banned me. Which is why it was brought here. It totally sucks, because cfus rocks. :/
                              Yes cfus does rock but as you well no, bringing unjustified drama to that forum without trying to fix it off line is a no-no. Plus I would rather leave rev out of this. Thus you were forced to bring it here where drama is king

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                              • Jace
                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 35562

                                #65
                                Originally posted by potter
                                "big baller tgp owner"
                                ok, that made me laugh

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by potter
                                  I don't think you even realize it. But we've met, shook hands, and talked biz before. I just don't have that big of an impression because I'm mainly just a designer and not a "big baller tgp owner" in the industry.
                                  As I stated, I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.

                                  I am sorry that we have never done biz, but since we haven't, I can't speak as to my experience with you.

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                                  • sicone
                                    Retired
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 18453

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    Well, while I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.
                                    I've known both (Bods and Potter) for several yrs now and have nothing negative to say about either of them

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                                    • potter
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 6559

                                      #68
                                      The third post in this thread shows I was discussing this just mere hours ago. The rest of the posts show this was ongoing for 9+ months and not resolved. Again, the proof is all right here. Everyone has read it.

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                                      • Bods4Mods
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 904

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                        10% of the new site? after being duped into developing an entire program with sites and not getting paid?

                                        You better pick up some business skills and learn to hustle in the adult biz.
                                        You got the fuck pimped out of ya.

                                        Not true at all. The only people that had interest in the site were the three investors. I have always liked Brian's work. When I showed it to a few people, none of them were happy with how it turned out. That is why we got a new designer Harvey, who did an amazing job.

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                                        • potter
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 6559

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Jace
                                          hit me up jace at justjace dot com and let me see some examples man

                                          you aren't like some idiots out there and grab free themes and just modify the graphics and charges $400, right? LOL

                                          I had a guy hit me up and while the graphics were pretty damn good, the fucking theme was a DIRECT copy/paste from themes.wordpress.net, I even viewed source and the name of the original theme was in there....I don't mind if you do that, but don't quote me $400 for a fucking theme you just changed graphics on! haha
                                          I'll hit you up

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                                          • Bods4Mods
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 904

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by sicone
                                            I've known both (Bods and Potter) for several yrs now and have nothing negative to say about either of them
                                            Thanks man

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                                            • potter
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 6559

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                              10% of the new site? after being duped into developing an entire program with sites and not getting paid?

                                              You better pick up some business skills and learn to hustle in the adult biz.
                                              You got the fuck pimped out of ya.

                                              I hope you recover, just do not be gullible in the future and remember Money talks bullshit walks and maybe just maybe you can call someone a friend after knowing them for more than a couple years but ya goto keep biz and friend separated at all times with money being counted where its due.
                                              I thought I had learned my lesson and had always gotten payment upfront. Even with the first couple projects with Jon. Problem is, with the friendship that was built I trusted him. It was years into it he began to screw me over.

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                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                best designer on GFY
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 30307

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Bods4Mods
                                                Not true at all. The only people that had interest in the site were the three investors. I have always liked Brian's work. When I showed it to a few people, none of them were happy with how it turned out. That is why we got a new designer Harvey, who did an amazing job.
                                                Well when you tell somebody 10% and they put in the time and you pull the plug what is that about? A deal is a deal and if they did not like the work he seemingly his work dictates he is capable of getting what was wanted.

                                                However I think the bottom line is the 10%.
                                                How about that other designer that replaced him he makin 10% or was he paid flat? Was it just easier to cut out Potter and put the 10% somewhere else? Thats what I am thinking.

                                                What about the time the guy that thought you were his friend what did he get other then getting cut out of the deal? Did you at least pay him for the time he put into the effort?
                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-04-2008, 10:46 PM.

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                                                • Bods4Mods
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                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 904

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by potter
                                                  I thought I had learned my lesson and had always gotten payment upfront. Even with the first couple projects with Jon. Problem is, with the friendship that was built I trusted him. It was years into it he began to screw me over.

                                                  Again Brian. I have always taken care of you. When the designs started to not be what I wanted and you took your break from designing because it wasn't what you wanted to do, and have to throw papers and not make ends meat, you come on here trying to extort money from me. I am not about to have that done to me because you made the wrong choices in life.

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                                                  • potter
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                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 6559

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Bods4Mods
                                                    Not true at all. The only people that had interest in the site were the three investors. I have always liked Brian's work. When I showed it to a few people, none of them were happy with how it turned out. That is why we got a new designer Harvey, who did an amazing job.
                                                    Not true at all. You continued to use my work, and asked for even more work to be done. You used my main tour design for the first portion of beta, and continued to keep it up as an alt tour via the affiliate program. The member's section is STILL using my scripting and design as well. It's kinda hard to try and blame investor's opinions when you yourself have used the product, and not payed for it. It's real simple.

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                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                      best designer on GFY
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 30307

                                                      #76
                                                      Why would anyone go with 10% when the deal is split 3 ways on a solo girls site anyways? Thats insane, you would be mailing a 5 cent nickel every week after all said and done.

                                                      Sigh...
                                                      It's none of my business really I just feel a relation to what Potter has gone threw, I went through the same thing when I first started going solo in the biz.

                                                      Oh well I am going to stand down 3 sides to every story.
                                                      Good luck and tough breaks on all sides is what comes to mind here.
                                                      Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-04-2008, 10:52 PM.

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                                                      • potter
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 6559

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Bods4Mods
                                                        Again Brian. I have always taken care of you. When the designs started to not be what I wanted and you took your break from designing because it wasn't what you wanted to do, and have to throw papers and not make ends meat, you come on here trying to extort money from me. I am not about to have that done to me because you made the wrong choices in life.
                                                        I think you need to reread this thread. You seem to be hallucinating.

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                                                        • Bods4Mods
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                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                          • 904

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                          Well when you tell somebody 10% and they put in the time and you pull the plug what is that about? A deal is a deal and if they did not like the work he seemingly his work dictates he is capable of getting what was wanted.

                                                          However I think the bottom line is the 10%.
                                                          How about that other designer that replaced him he makin 10% or was he paid flat? Was it just easier to cut out Potter and put the 10% somewhere else? Thats what I am thinking.

                                                          What about the time the guy that thought you were his friend what did he get other then getting cut out of the deal? Did you at least pay him for the time he put into the effort?
                                                          It is so much easier looking from the outside in, isn't it? And not knowing all the facts makes that whole process a bit off, don't you think?

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                                                          • Bods4Mods
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                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 904

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by potter
                                                            I think you need to reread this thread. You seem to be hallucinating.
                                                            Not at all - you need to start being a man and stop blaming others for your failing in life.

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                                                            • potter
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 6559

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Bods4Mods
                                                              Not at all - you need to start being a man and stop blaming others for your failing in life.
                                                              Ah, and there it is. I was hoping you'd show this side of your personality. Now people can actually see what a terrible person you are. You need to take your own advice there and start being a man and paying your debts. You hired me, and didn't pay me - <<<< see. It's on the first page, everyone's seen it. It's not like it disappeared because we hit page 2.

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                                                              • potter
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                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 6559

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                As I stated, I know there are always three sides to every story I will say that I have done work with bods in the past and have nothing negative to say about him.

                                                                I am sorry that we have never done biz, but since we haven't, I can't speak as to my experience with you.
                                                                I really don't understand how there is any other side to this. As stated, I did work for him and was not paid for it. There is a plethora of evidence in this thread. The only retort was that my design was not used. Well, go to the website. It's the third alt tour right now. It's there, live and running online. It's also posted as a link code on the affiliate program. My design, and scripting - is also being used for the member's section. Which many here could check if they have a promo pass, which the larger players should. There's hundreds of webmasters on here who were part of beta, and saw the website launched with my design as the main tour. It's not like it's up for debate, because the proof is right there for you to see.

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                                                                • xmas13
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                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 5176

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Can someone summarize? I'm too lazy to read all the shit.

                                                                  Thanks.
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                                                                  • Kron
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 1668

                                                                    #83
                                                                    shameless sig insertion
                                                                    I dont exchange money!

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                                                                    • MaDalton
                                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 39861

                                                                      #84
                                                                      after reading the ICQ logs i have to say:

                                                                      if my "partner" would speak to me that way i would shit in his face and quit the same second. i think "arrogant asshole" would be the appropriate term in this case
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                                                                      • Violetta
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                                                                        • Jul 2004
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Bods4Mods
                                                                        Not at all - you need to start being a man and stop blaming others for your failing in life.
                                                                        well, having sucky friends sure doesnt help
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                                                                        • Jman
                                                                          Already an AI veteran
                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                          • 22838

                                                                          #86
                                                                          You made your biggest mistake, bringing your dirty laundry on GFY...

                                                                          Good Luck, you'll need it.
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                                                                          • BlackCrayon
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 19634

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Sounds like a case of the big guy screwing the little guy because he knows he can.
                                                                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                            • lazycash
                                                                              Troll Patrol
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 15214

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Jean-Francois
                                                                              You made your biggest mistake, bringing your dirty laundry on GFY...

                                                                              Good Luck, you'll need it.
                                                                              He hasn't been paid in 9 months, gfy sounds like a decent last resort attempt. Its not like Jon was ready to cut a check and now has decided not to, by his posts in this thread its clear that he hasn't had any intention of paying Brian.
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                                                                              • sigurman
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                • 665

                                                                                #89
                                                                                I must say you had A LOT of faith in Jon...now that you lose it, talk with a lawyer.

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                                                                                • not-a-troll
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                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                  • 163

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  this thread really delivers

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                                                                                  • not-a-troll
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                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                    • 163

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    you'll get your money nigga!

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                                                                                    • Goose
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                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                      • 5725

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Bods you still owe me 200k traffic, kick your plug boy in his balls and pay back like you said a year ago.
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                                                                                      • JamesK
                                                                                        hi
                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                        • 16731

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Goose
                                                                                        Bods you still owe me 200k traffic, kick your plug boy in his balls and pay back like you said a year ago.
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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32449

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Wow.. looks like Batts isn't the only genius.

                                                                                          Brit has a great bod.. but if I promote her will I get paid?

                                                                                          How come I have never heard of her until now? What kind of promotion do you do? WTF?

                                                                                          I am reading your lofty ideas on her site and amounts you will make but I see that there is very little in the way of promotion.. sad..

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                                                                                          • Tempest
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                            • 10217

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            This was entertaining.. what I take away is that:
                                                                                            1. If you're a smooth talker you can get free work out of potter.
                                                                                            2. Never do business with Bods4Mods unelss he pays you up front.
                                                                                            3. Any hot ideas Bods4Mods has will probably fail from lack of follow thru.

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                                                                                            • qxm
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 5970

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I thought this thread had died already.........so whut happened? will the guy the the monies or will he not? Therein lies the question........

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                                                                                              • After Shock Media
                                                                                                It's coming look busy
                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                • 35299

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Skip lawyer use small claims. Lawyers are only usefull in criminal matters, or when damages exceed approx 33k or so. (yes there are other reasons for lawyers so do not lay into me.)

                                                                                                There is no real interest to sue for since it was never part of any agreement though you may be able to get some on that 10&#37; assuming you can make a judge think he was being malicious and then it is the state set limit.

                                                                                                You just need to go file for small claims court. Most places are 5k maximum judgements, or like mine its 5k for first case of year then 2.5k for each additional case. No lawyers needed nor allowed.

                                                                                                Only pain in the ass about small claims or even real court is collecting the judgement.

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                                                                                                • Twisted Dave
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                  • 3635

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  I'm not going to say either one here is in the right, because it may be one massive miscommunication...!!!

                                                                                                  But... I've worked for bods a few times and he's always paid on time ... in fact... paid up front I think If I recall ...

                                                                                                  Nice guy to deal with.

                                                                                                  Hope you guys get this sorted either way Good luck


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                                                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32449

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                                                    3. Any hot ideas Bods4Mods has will probably fail from lack of follow thru.

                                                                                                    Hit the lights!

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                                                                                                    • papill0n
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2007
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      wow potter you are the most patient guy i think i have ever seen. If I was you i would forget about getting your money. Move on man and learn from this. Never ever do work on credit. Always get half up front and if you haven't been paid don't EVER do any more work.

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