She is not going to do any time (last I heard).
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why is that good? Spamming that shit reflects badly on all of us.Originally posted by chadglniComment
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Oh come on. Nobody should be sitting in jail because of electronic mail period.Originally posted by tony404Comment
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Yep, she plead guilty and is working for the Feds, testifying against the others, acting like the poor victim. She's a rat.Originally posted by baddog[QUOTE=DavieVegas]Now i apologize for people who I have scammed in the past or future.QUOTE]Comment
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Haha you know this how? I doubt she has any info that the feds don't already know.Originally posted by ricksComment
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No this shit feeds the right wing fire kids and old ladies getting this shit in their email, sticking porn in peoples faces isnt cool. At webmaster access a lawyer spoke about going in front of juries is going to get harder because all these people have gotten unwanted porn spam in their emailboxes and they are looking for someone to lash out at. This shit hurts all of us.Originally posted by chadglniComment
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It said 2 counts of spamming + 1 count of criminal conspiracy. So it's not 15 years just for spamming, it's a maximum of 15 years total.Originally posted by czarinaComment
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She was in trouble for SPAM not porn. The side effects don't change my opinion that putting someone in jail for sending emails is retarded and a waste. If you look at the last 10 spam convictions and the trouble they got into you will see that it is a 100% monetary agenda. Big ass fines, 0 or barely any time. If they were really concerned they would be locking people up, not charging them millions of dollars to stay out of jail.Originally posted by tony404Comment
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Info means nothing, it is about getting her to testify against the others.Originally posted by chadglni[QUOTE=DavieVegas]Now i apologize for people who I have scammed in the past or future.QUOTE]Comment
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chadgllni let me get this straight.
questionable porn is ok to push because everyone else does it
guba is an ok company
and electronic spam is a ok too...
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Whats so hard to believe this isnt some surprise law, it got alots of press.Comment
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Originally posted by chadglni
Not sure where you get your information from, Jeremy Jaynes got 9 years.
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Of course she knew what she was doing.Originally posted by RawAlex
She'd be an idiot not to play dumb. Who the hell wants to go to jail???
You better believe if I ever got popped I'd play the "poor, dumb, innocent female" card. I'd cry to anyone who would listen.
You know what the real beauty of the whole deal is, though? She ain't even got any kids.
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Originally posted by tony404
Perhaps because she wasn't involved?Comment
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It's a shame your reading and comprehension skills haven't improved at all. Usually when someone interacts daily with the written word they pick at least some things up along the way.Originally posted by Youngchadgllni let me get this straight.
questionable porn is ok to push because everyone else does it
guba is an ok company
and electronic spam is a ok too...
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But what she was sending out was porn not mortgage spam. THat reflects on all of us and the law didnt just pop up.Originally posted by chadglniComment
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Originally posted by chadglni
My reading and comprehension skills are impeccable. Maybe you should work on getting your point across without sounding like a complete insensitive moron.
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your kidding right?Maybe I didnt read this right:Originally posted by baddog
Jennifer Clason, 33, of Raymond, N.H., was part of a spam gang that sent mass quantities of messages containing pornographic images, said officials from the Department of Justice. She admitted conspiring with two others, Jeffrey Kilbride, 39, of Venice, Calif., and James Schaffer, 39, of Paradise Valley, Ariz., in sending the messages, which advertised various Internet porn sites.
Clason, who pleaded guilty to two counts of violating the federal CAN-SPAM Act and to one count of criminal conspiracy, will forfeit her ill-gotten gains under the agreement she struck with authorities. She also faces a maximum of 15 years in prison.Comment
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You need to re-read moron. I said it was good she didn't go to jail for sending emails. Everything else was assumed by you or another idiot in this thread.Originally posted by YoungMy reading and comprehension skills are impeccable. Maybe you should work on getting your point across without sounding like a complete insensitive moron.Comment
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She should've tried making cookies and selling it to her neighbours as a sideline instead.
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If every spammer in the US died tomorrow it will change nothing. All of the foreign spam hitting US mailboxes will still look bad for the adult industry. Being happy about someone going to jail for sending emails is ridiculous regardless.Originally posted by tony404Comment
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So if not jailed then what? A fine? A slap on the wrist?
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LOL the way people draw conclusions around here, like 1 +1 =3, they will soon start saying that because you do not think people should do hard time for spam, that you think it is ok to spam. gotta love the mentality of GFY users.Originally posted by chadglniICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I am not happy for someone to go to jail but who the fuck told them to break the law. What were you raised by wolves you have the most fucked sense of wrong and right I have ever seen in my life.Originally posted by chadglniComment
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Originally posted by tony404
You're right. It is on the Internet, it must be true. My apologies.Comment
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Funny, Young was pulling the same shit with me, putting words in your mouth.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I just can't fathom anyone condoning someone going to jail in a free country for sending emails. And on top of that facing more time potentially than a rapist. I would say you have to be sick in the head to not have a problem with that.Originally posted by tony404Comment
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No conclusion read the article they sent porn images and spam to people's email .Where is the conclusion? There is a problem in our industry that will fuck it up for all of us, this the law cant touch me I can do whatever I want ficking attitude. Everybodies doing it so its fine.Its bullshit.Originally posted by will76Comment
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I called you a spin doctor. I didn't put words into your mouthOriginally posted by will76
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So you saying xbiz made it up?Originally posted by baddogComment
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Spam is a problem they put a law in place if someone chooses to ignore the law and do what they want. Why am I supposed to feel sorry for them?Originally posted by chadglniComment
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I believe in the American Justice system. When a law is broken the defendant is entitled to due process. The person will be sentenced accordingly within guidelines that were deemed fair by the same system that has worked for 200 years.Originally posted by chadglni
The law and guidelines exist and are in place...they are their for us to follow. If you choose to break it you suffer the consequences.Last edited by Young; 03-13-2006, 10:33 PM.★★★
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Originally posted by tony404
reread what i post. All i was saying was that thinking someone does not deserve jail time does not = thinking spam is ok.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by YoungI called you a spin doctor. I didn't put words into your mouth
i dont spin anything. i speak the truth some people can't handle it or understand it.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Some of the biggest aol/aim/yahoo spammers post on this board. I'm not surprised this chick was caught. Lots of people like to play themselves off as legit webmasters when they're actually nothing but full time spammers.Comment
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Why not your saying its not real and Im sorry I didnt read it on xbix, it was information week. Of course they made it up lolOriginally posted by baddogComment
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Well how do you stop it ? Fines dont work, people still do it. What other way is there to show they are really serious about this law. Also people that do this reflect on all of us, it feeds fires to make fucked up laws that hurt our incomes.Originally posted by will76Comment
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Originally posted by tony404
would you feel sorry for someone getting their fingers chopped off for stealing a candybar?
What he is saying is that the punishment is extreme (if she got many years in jail for this). I agree.
Fucking people who get their 5th DWI get out of jail in less then 30 days, or don't go to jail at all in some cases. There is sooo much more out there 100x worse then this, like defrauding people for millions or harming people or even killing people that would get you far less time in jail.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Haha just drop it, I am. Amazing what can happen by posting "Well that's good".Originally posted by will76Comment
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If you had a child who had who had a email addy to email grandma and there is porn spam in it with pictures how would you feel about it. This isnt stealing a candy bar. Also the law was out and it was clear what they would do with people that were caught. So this was a choice. People really hate spam probably more than murder to tell you the truth because it fills up their email boxes every day its in their faces everyday.Originally posted by will76Comment
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This should be even more of a reason to stay the hell away from SPAM. The e-mail laws have been in place for numerous years now.Originally posted by will76
For future reference...anyone who wants to choose spamming as their career of choice....go through the legislation process FIRST and fight for reduced sentences for spammers. Then decide if it's still worth it...
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how do you stop drugs, rape, murders, speeding tickets... you don't.Originally posted by tony404
with that logic, why not execute people for speeding. Obviously making them pay a couple hundred and having their insurance go up doesn;t work.
how do you stop it... you follow the money. see who they are advertising. go after those companies if they have repeated offenders, make them police themselves... if you had companies out there that did not allow spam, then you would have very few spamers. honestly, guy sends 2 million emails a day to company A. he does this for months, do you think company knows what he is doing ? LOL. Hit the company with some fines, see how long they tolerate spam after that. Once you get the company not accepting it and closing down accounts as soon as they get 1 compliant, the spammers will be bouncing around trying to find someone to take it. Make all the companies too scared to touch it.
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I can see that point but I have a problem with people who feel they dont have to follow the law and there seems to be alot of them in this industry all followed by the its not fair cry when caught.Originally posted by will76how do you stop drugs, rape, murders, speeding tickets... you don't.
with that logic, why not execute people for speeding. Obviously making them pay a couple hundred and having their insurance go up doesn;t work.
how do you stop it... you follow the money. see who they are advertising. go after those companies if they have repeated offenders, make them police themselves... if you had companies out there that did not allow spam, then you would have very few spamers. honestly, guy sends 2 million emails a day to company A. he does this for months, do you think company knows what he is doing ? LOL. Hit the company with some fines, see how long they tolerate spam after that. Once you get the company not accepting it and closing down accounts as soon as they get 1 compliant, the spammers will be bouncing around trying to find someone to take it. Make all the companies too scared to touch it.Last edited by tony286; 03-13-2006, 10:48 PM.Comment
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Society needs a deterence. It just so happens that some people have "screws loose" per se and still break laws. The prospect of going to jail is enough to stop me from breaking the law. It does not work for all...Originally posted by will76★★★
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Originally posted by baddog
I am not commenting any more = You got me
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Originally posted by tony404
I use non nude pictures in 95% of my advertising. I don't email btw, not even optin list. just to get that straight before i start getting called a spammer.
I would never let my child get online unsupervised. There are far worse things online then spam email that can harm children, which is why i would not let a child under 15 online without suppervision.
hand cut off from stealing candy bar was just an example of something being to extreme, not comparing spam email to stealing candy.
The people who hate spam more then murder wont feel that way after someone they know is murdered. this is a stupid comment and i hope not that case.
What pissing me off more then spam email. junk mail to my house, that looks like an invoice or check and it is shit, BUt this is legal. The fucking 20 spam faxes i get a day, that waste my ink, but this is legal. The bullshit phone calls i get at home, even though my number is on the list. Can;t wait till they start calling cell phones.
On a side note, if someone sends a nude picture to a child in an email they should be charge with distributing nudity to a minor, has to be some type of law like that. I do think the nudity in the emails really suck, you never know who will get them. Non nude should be treated less serve IMO.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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no shit all laws are a deterence... spin doctor.Originally posted by Young
i am saying.
break law smoking weed, get a ticket.
break law selling weed, get probabtion
break law dwi, 30 day license suspension
break law selling weed to kids, get probabtion
break law molesting kids, get 10 years if you lucky (get moved to another church if you are a priest)
break law taking nude pictures of kids, get 10 years if you are lucky.
break law sending out spam email, get up to 15 years.
what is wrong with these laws?
well you can get more time in jail for sending a kid an email then you would if you sold them drugs, took naked pictures of them or molested them.
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Maybe I'll buy MommyJobs.com while she's away and start my own MILF site.
Then I just need to spam it a bit to get the traffic going.Comment
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