Affiliate conduct... should this be allowed?
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You know... I wouldn't mind as much if he wasn't advertising us on the free tour of his site. Now, if a potential member is looking at his tour, he thinks there are updates from Alysha and a few dozen others.
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Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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Alysha is sick now after that cruise, as I've read that many others are as well. We had a great time, though!
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Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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Fuck, not good. They have our stuff up with no links to our site?
They contacted me last week asking me a for a full movie, I gave them a sample movie with a full picture set instead. They said they would list it in the members area as a friends upsale, for it to be an upsale there has to be a link god damit.
Love to hear what they have to say about this.
RayComment
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There is a link to our site in their members area. But, they are advertising our content in their free area as being part of their site with no link in the free area.Fuck, not good. They have our stuff up with no links to our site?
They contacted me last week asking me a for a full movie, I gave them a sample movie with a full picture set instead. They said they would list it in the members area as a friends upsale, for it to be an upsale there has to be a link god damit.
Love to hear what they have to say about this.
Ray
And... they never contacted me asking for permission. Perhaps they are contacting people now for recent updates. We have been in their members area since May 2007 (and again in August 2007) and never heard from them asking for permission.
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Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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This practice is the norm with amateur girls so nothing to worry about there. Nonone puts traffic leaks in their free section just because there is a pic showing you as an update...
This is where the problem comes in....
Always ask permission boys and girls.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand
http://www.bjpenn.comComment
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Here is a link to the CCBill copyright department for anyone with stolen content on there: http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/htm...copyright.htmlSee sig...Comment
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Hitting you up on ICQThere is a link to our site in their members area. But, they are advertising our content in their free area as being part of their site with no link in the free area.
And... they never contacted me asking for permission. Perhaps they are contacting people now for recent updates. We have been in their members area since May 2007 (and again in August 2007) and never heard from them asking for permission.Comment
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Ok, i just joined the site and there is indeed a link back to our site where our content is listed. So we are good, they followed through what they said they would do, post our stuff and upsell/link back.Comment
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That was the original intention of my post, to ask if it was ok or standard procedure for affiliates to do that. Nearly everyone here says it's not, but I guess you're ok with them posting full length videos in their members area and advertising it in their free area?
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Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand
http://www.bjpenn.comComment
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We dont allow full movies, the movie they listed is one the I personally edited for this deal. Its basically 6 mins of intro and 3-4 mins of sex. I also gave them a full picture set of that same scene.That was the original intention of my post, to ask if it was ok or standard procedure for affiliates to do that. Nearly everyone here says it's not, but I guess you're ok with them posting full length videos in their members area and advertising it in their free area?
So yeah , its fine by me. Its great for upsells
We are actually working on setting up the same type trades with our members area(s) and anyone willing to provide a full picture set with a movie clip.
I did not however allow the full picture set to be posted outside of the members area, "free area".
Your upset, because you did not give them permission, Id be upset as well. I hope you 2 can work it out.
thx,
RayComment
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This is why it is NOT OK for THIS GUY to do THIS
A ccbill solo girl will have galleries or teaser (extra long videos but not FULL videos) for upsales... This is NORMAL behavior.
This guy took full length videos and also UPDATED with MORE videos so that he effectively padded HIS members area with OTHER SITES CONTENT!
The surfer doesn't NEED to go to your site anymore. He can stay HERE and get your content for free. He basically turned his single site into a site network comparable to nasty dollars or traffic cash gold. He did this with your content with the excuse that it was an upsell.
YES, 1:23 is a great ratio... But in 1 year having 2 to 3 upsells is complete bullshit. It shows that he is NOT selling your site, he is padding his own with your content. His surfers are so happy with this deal they feel no need to leave his NETWORK...Comment
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bump for fucking this guy up
this is not acceptable at all
upsell ads should only be made using promo tools content
not your full members area content
who cares if he doesnt advertise your full members content on his tour
he is giving it for free to his members which is probably making him more on recurring memberships....this is even worse
ban him
report him
kill him
ruin him lolComment
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do you really need 3 signups in 1year at 1:23 ? lol
i think not
rape himComment
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And fuck I just use a few hosted movie gallery clips with a self generated thumbnail as an upsell. Yup the same hosted crap that every other affiliate has access to and I always do less than 1:6 with my sponsors from these sort of upsells.
Now on actual content exchanges with a solo girl I get about the same conversion but the traffic numbers are vastly greater. The above ones I may send each program up to 10 sales a month, yet with a content exchange I may end up sending double or tripple that. Well then again I have had some go ass up, we all know how every so often something just blows.
Now to think I could of been padding my site and not spending so damn much on updates.Comment
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ExtremeBank.com, the EXTREME program for the Pornicate.com Network of sites:
Naughty Alysha, Roxy Raye, Buddha Bang, Angie Noir, Fisting Sex, Extreme Ty & many more.
Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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adam your asking really dumb questions to begin with
should this be allowed?
like if ppl said ya its fine you would let it go?
wow not very smart at allComment
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A simple "kiss my ass" would suffice here, but I'll take the time to respond...
I wanted to check as a program owner what other program owners will allow and won't allow. Are YOU a program owner?
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Email: adam [at] extremebank.com | ICQ: 331-797-412Comment
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Exactly... I see many a sponsor with less content used in the upsell making way more money... This guy is more or less creating a network pass at everyone else's expense.And fuck I just use a few hosted movie gallery clips with a self generated thumbnail as an upsell. Yup the same hosted crap that every other affiliate has access to and I always do less than 1:6 with my sponsors from these sort of upsells.
Now on actual content exchanges with a solo girl I get about the same conversion but the traffic numbers are vastly greater. The above ones I may send each program up to 10 sales a month, yet with a content exchange I may end up sending double or tripple that. Well then again I have had some go ass up, we all know how every so often something just blows.
Now to think I could of been padding my site and not spending so damn much on updates.Comment
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Sorry to inform all you guys, but using a full movie and picture set is standard practice for these type of sites. Not linking to the content owners site would be stealing, or not having your own content in the members area, or maybe even using more than two videos in a short time would be iffy but you guys are way off on this one. Check with the industry leaders and you will see they ALL use full movie and picture set.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand
http://www.bjpenn.comComment
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At the risk of asking this while you are in a bad mood.Here is a link to the CCBill copyright department for anyone with stolen content on there: http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/htm...copyright.html
If someone asked you for a pic set or vid to promote your site from within their members area, would you?
I am thinking a general banner or text link of your site rotating within their members area. plus a banner and or text link on the page the set and or vid is displayed.
Kind Regards,
LesTchauComment
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Sorry to inform all you guys, but using a full movie and picture set is standard practice for these type of sites. Not linking to the content owners site would be stealing, or not having your own content in the members area, or maybe even using more than two videos in a short time would be iffy but you guys are way off on this one. Check with the industry leaders and you will see they ALL use full movie and picture set.
If they did not obtain permission to use the content (all of it) it is THEFT, whether they link to them or not.
End of story.Comment
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Sorry but you are the one that is way off on this oneSorry to inform all you guys, but using a full movie and picture set is standard practice for these type of sites. Not linking to the content owners site would be stealing, or not having your own content in the members area, or maybe even using more than two videos in a short time would be iffy but you guys are way off on this one. Check with the industry leaders and you will see they ALL use full movie and picture set.
taking content from my members area and using it in your members area and on your tour as an update is completly against our terms of service and im sure it is against all the <SO CALLED> BIG BOYS terms of service as well...
Ask me to use content from the members area and get permission to use something is one thing, but taking it just because IM AN AFFILIATE and ill link to you is something different.... I dont give a ratts ass that the guy is linking to me he stole my content that i didnt give him permission to use and placed it not only in his members area but on his tour as an update
All he had to do was ask me and hell I would have shot something JUST FOR HIM .... special that noone else has... as im sure MOST if not all solo model sites would do...
Come on now...
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You and yours above not meaning this is your site
sorry bout that one... lol
Last edited by 3xTom; 02-02-2008, 06:12 PM.Comment
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No, we do not permit that.At the risk of asking this while you are in a bad mood.
If someone asked you for a pic set or vid to promote your site from within their members area, would you?
I am thinking a general banner or text link of your site rotating within their members area. plus a banner and or text link on the page the set and or vid is displayed.
Kind Regards,
LesComment
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ummm.... no.
need you ask?Comment
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Terminate his account

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So he is sending sales though...
From the screenshot you posted it seems the problem to me is not enough links to your site, not the fact that he uses a full movie... His method is generating signups.
If he had sent you 100 sales using this method would you have posted the thread?Comment
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i think it's bullshit to put free hosted galleries in a members area - it's a fucking insult to members. i wanted to use two full photosets and a video of solo girls i wanted to do trades with - oh my god, the dolts were up in arms, you can't do that! i am happy to give anybody who is going to upsell my site full sets - the name of the game is to make sales, a full photoset works better in a members area than a free hosted gallery. it's a pre-sale - a very qualified pre-sale.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment










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