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Originally Posted by GatorB
This isn't horseshoes ALMOST doesn't count. And if "shady" things did go on in 200 and 2004 what makes you think they won't go on again in those 2 states in 2008?
If plan A fails other than Ohio and Florida which red state will Clinton/Obama win?
That doesn't mean shit. To win a general election you need to win more than the 30% of the people that are a member of your party. By the way Bill Clinton came in 3rd In Iowa and 2nd in NH in 1992. How'd that work of for the "winners" of those primaries?
In 2000 McCain was CLEARLY the better GOP representative for President. Yes Bush won but we all pay for the GOPs idiocy 8 years ago. McCain would have beaten Gore easily in both the electoral vote and the popular vote and there wouldn't have been any issues with questionable goings on. because they elected Bush the GOP lost Congress in 2006. They'll keeping losing Congress in 2008 and they'll have a hard time winning the Presidency in 2008. Now if the GOP had nominated McCain in 200 none of this would have happened. Hindshight's a bitch sometimes. Seems the GOP has learned at least somewhat.
1984 Mondale, 1988 Dukakis, 2004 Kerry. Please tell me you HONESTLY believe these were the BEST choices for the dems.
I think all primaries should be open so that way the extremes in each party don't get to dictate which candidates get nominated. And ban caucuses. All states should have primaries.
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okay lots of answers - first I said I think there will be shady shit happening in florida and/or ohio in 2008.
Second - I don't know what the plan is if they can't win ohio or florida. You could argue that Clinton could win Arkansas. She and bill are well liked there.
third - I would venture to guess that none of those three candidates were the best. there is always someone better out there.
Fourth - I agree with you completely. I also think they should all be held on the same day. Say April first or something like that. Every state has it's primary, no caucuses, no early primaries that let fringe candidates come out of nowhere and gain momentum.
My entire point with my posts is that I don't think Obama being black will be as big an issue as some want to think it would.